How did they alter the 981 to create the GTS?

[Clevers]

I have a 981 S and while driving out of our cul de sac last weekend a friend of the neighbour came in with her GTS. We briefly chatted with windows down and it was the first time that I have heard the cars side by side. The GTS does sound better, so what is it that Porsche have done to get that sound over a 981 S?

Thanks

[Twinfan]

Fuelling map. More in the exhaust to give pops and crackles. The exhaust hardware is the same.

[Krobar]

I think there is a sound actuator in the GTS too.

[Twinfan]

Only a pipe for induction noise behind the seats - you only hear it in the cabin

[CEREC1]

Twinfan said:

Only a pipe for induction noise behind the seats - you only hear it in the cabin

Can this be blocked off to reduce the cabin sound?
I’m a bit old to be impressed by ‘boy racer’ sound effects.
Don’t get me wrong the exhaust sounds are sublime.

[CEREC1]

Twinfan said:

Only a pipe for induction noise behind the seats - you only hear it in the cabin

Can this be blocked off to reduce the cabin sound?
I’m a bit old to be impressed by ‘boy racer’ sound effects.
Don’t get me wrong the exhaust sounds are sublime.

[Clevers]

Twinfan said:

Only a pipe for induction noise behind the seats - you only hear it in the cabin

No, listening to the GTS external noise alongside my 981 S, the GTS exhaust sound is different. It is a deeper sound with more burble about it.

[Twinfan]

i was referring to the sound actuator specifically. That you can only hear in the cabin and it provides a bit induction noise. You can't really remove it unless you remove the piping behind the seats.

Externally an S and a GTS sound different and it's all in the fuelling map combined with the general tune of the engine (slightly higher in the GTS).

[jonttt]

CEREC1 said:

Twinfan said:

Only a pipe for induction noise behind the seats - you only hear it in the cabin

Can this be blocked off to reduce the cabin sound?
I’m a bit old to be impressed by ‘boy racer’ sound effects.
Don’t get me wrong the exhaust sounds are sublime.

Just don’t press the sport button ie leave the PSE off. The car is relatively muted then. If thats still too “sporty” a sound for you you are in the wrong car !

Ps you can still drive it “sportily” without PSE on ;-)

[n4aat]

jonttt said:

Just don’t press the sport button ie leave the PSE off. The car is relatively muted then. If thats still too “sporty” a sound for you you are in the wrong car !

Ps you can still drive it “sportily” without PSE on ;-)

Although not pressing the sport button changes the characteristics of the engine. One of which is to reduce engine braking which feels dreadful to dangerous when pressing on.

[S666SBD]

Twinfan said:

Fuelling map. More in the exhaust to give pops and crackles. The exhaust hardware is the same.

According to a Porsche Exhaust Specialist in the US ..... The 718 GTS exhaust system is different to the previous 981 / GT4 sports exhaust .

" different exhaust and pick up points " . They have presumably investigated this during development of new 718 systems .

[Twinfan]

Bound to be different though isn't it? It's fitted to a turbo four not a naturally aspirated six!

[bcr5784]

n4aat said:

Although not pressing the sport button changes the characteristics of the engine. One of which is to reduce engine braking which feels dreadful to dangerous when pressing on.

In Normal mode (unless you switch it off with the stop/start button) the car coasts in neutral. It's great for economy on the motorway, but can be disconcerting if you are expecting engine braking. In truth it's not that much more noticeable than some diesels or two-stroke motorbikes which both have little engine braking.

[n4aat]

bcr5784 said:

n4aat said:

Although not pressing the sport button changes the characteristics of the engine. One of which is to reduce engine braking which feels dreadful to dangerous when pressing on.

In Normal mode (unless you switch it off with the stop/start button) the car coasts in neutral. It's great for economy on the motorway, but can be disconcerting if you are expecting engine braking. In truth it's not that much more noticeable than some diesels or two-stroke motorbikes which both have little engine braking.

Yep. My 3 series does it in economy, or whatever the setting is. Great on the motorway.

But it’s pretty difficult to drive through corners smoothly without a bit of engine braking to tighten the line when you are expecting it.

[dreamcar]

n4aat said:

bcr5784 said:

n4aat said:

Although not pressing the sport button changes the characteristics of the engine. One of which is to reduce engine braking which feels dreadful to dangerous when pressing on.

In Normal mode (unless you switch it off with the stop/start button) the car coasts in neutral. It's great for economy on the motorway, but can be disconcerting if you are expecting engine braking. In truth it's not that much more noticeable than some diesels or two-stroke motorbikes which both have little engine braking.

Yep. My 3 series does it in economy, or whatever the setting is. Great on the motorway.

But it’s pretty difficult to drive through corners smoothly without a bit of engine braking to tighten the line when you are expecting it.

I tend to switch to “normal” mode on motorways.... i’ve found that when cruising in 7th, you can deactivate the coasting mode temporarily by using the downshift paddle, without changing down.

[n4aat]

dreamcar said:

n4aat said:

bcr5784 said:

n4aat said:

Although not pressing the sport button changes the characteristics of the engine. One of which is to reduce engine braking which feels dreadful to dangerous when pressing on.

In Normal mode (unless you switch it off with the stop/start button) the car coasts in neutral. It's great for economy on the motorway, but can be disconcerting if you are expecting engine braking. In truth it's not that much more noticeable than some diesels or two-stroke motorbikes which both have little engine braking.

Yep. My 3 series does it in economy, or whatever the setting is. Great on the motorway.

But it’s pretty difficult to drive through corners smoothly without a bit of engine braking to tighten the line when you are expecting it.

I tend to switch to “normal” mode on motorways.... i’ve found that when cruising in 7th, you can deactivate the coasting mode temporarily by using the downshift paddle, without changing down.

I will have to try that.

Sorry for the thread drift Clevers.

[DJMC]

dreamcar said:

I tend to switch to “normal” mode on motorways.... i’ve found that when cruising in 7th, you can deactivate the coasting mode temporarily by using the downshift paddle, without changing down.

When in "normal" mode, coasting can also be deactivated by cancelling the auto stop/start using the button in the centre console.

If not using Sport (which disables stop/start and coasting) I always press the stop/start cancel button when I set off.