Cayman GTS 981 - don't really like it.
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Geneve said:
Helicopter123 said:
Wheels look great, but ride must be brutal on those?
If they are the correct sized 20s, then ride probably fine. I've driven several 981s and 718s on 20s and the ride is very good.The nicest, quietest, riding, recent sporting Porsche, I've ever driven was a 981 GTS - with 20s, PASM, PCCBs, Goodyear F1s - and lovely steering feel and road handling. Hence why I liked it so much as a road car.
Edited by Geneve on Sunday 29th July 14:10
I had a loan car a while back - Cayman with the smaller engine, standard springs and the basic wheels, 18", possibly 17", and the ride and handing was divine.
It did look s
te mind.CastroSays said:
Helicopter123 said:
Jazzer said:
CastroSays said:
Here you go then amigo!
Wonderous beautiful thing.......
:-)
What a photo!!Wonderous beautiful thing.......
:-)
They are OEM 20" Sport Techno wheels.
I wouldn't imagine the ride is any different from any other 20" Porsche wheel?
My 981 Boxster S has these wheels and its got PASM and I find the ride perfectly acceptable.
Twinfan said:
Helicopter123 said:
Wheels look great, but ride must be brutal on those?
20" wheels and PASM are superb - way better than you would expect. The ride is sublime and firms up great when pressing on.I believe the passive X73 is still good too, if a bit firmer all the time of course.
Twinfan said:
If the Sports Chassis had been PASM I may have chosen it, but I wasn't up for the fixed rate dampers on my car. I didn't like the aftermarket-lowered look or the harsher ride on UK roads.
There's no right or wrong though - only what's best for you!
Aftermarket lowered look? You prefered the 4x4 look instead...haha.There's no right or wrong though - only what's best for you!
I had the X73 package on my CGTS - it was my daily driver and used for everything.
It was great for the 80% of the time, and then there was maybe 20% of the time towards the end of my ownership where I wished there was a bumpy road button to back it off. On a few roads and surfaces particularly these days in the UK it could be a little bit harsh, and brittle - and our roads are only getting into worse condition. As a daily driver for 3 years i'd encountered a lot of conditions.
So rather than comfort being the default and then modes for firming up - for me ideally the sport ride would be default and you'd have at the optional comfort. Like recent Ferraris.
I specced X73 because although not unique to the GTS - it did add another level of sporting to the car (+ PTV & LSD), enhanced steering feel, car response and feedback, it gave the car perfect ride height and stance instead on the on stilts look of PASM - and I was also thinking it would be simpler to replace, later on down the line with an even nicer aftermarket package without having to worry about extra components or cost for PASM bypass or delete.
An interesting option has been where people have added the X73 Anti-Roll bars or even thicker/stiffer aftermarket ones to the PASM set up to create a type of Sport PASM on the 981.
It was great for the 80% of the time, and then there was maybe 20% of the time towards the end of my ownership where I wished there was a bumpy road button to back it off. On a few roads and surfaces particularly these days in the UK it could be a little bit harsh, and brittle - and our roads are only getting into worse condition. As a daily driver for 3 years i'd encountered a lot of conditions.
So rather than comfort being the default and then modes for firming up - for me ideally the sport ride would be default and you'd have at the optional comfort. Like recent Ferraris.
I specced X73 because although not unique to the GTS - it did add another level of sporting to the car (+ PTV & LSD), enhanced steering feel, car response and feedback, it gave the car perfect ride height and stance instead on the on stilts look of PASM - and I was also thinking it would be simpler to replace, later on down the line with an even nicer aftermarket package without having to worry about extra components or cost for PASM bypass or delete.
An interesting option has been where people have added the X73 Anti-Roll bars or even thicker/stiffer aftermarket ones to the PASM set up to create a type of Sport PASM on the 981.
I use the Sport Chassis setting on PASM most of the time, using Normal as the comfort setting TDT describes. It's great
As for the "stilts" look I really don't see it. The wheels are perfectly lined up in the arches to my eyes, with equal space between the wheel and wing all around. Beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that.
As for the "stilts" look I really don't see it. The wheels are perfectly lined up in the arches to my eyes, with equal space between the wheel and wing all around. Beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that.
Edited by Twinfan on Tuesday 31st July 13:07
Well getting the thread slightly back on track, I have to say the original thread title does resonate with me. I had a Cayman GTS last year and ended up getting rid of it after less 5 months. I don't know why, I just never bonded with the car properly, it never got under my skin, which is a shame as I was expecting to love it and I do really like the way they look, but that was about as far as it went.
As some have alluded to on here, I found the steering pretty vague, the noise far too "manafactured" and whilst the performance was decent, it wasn't quite enough.
I actually bought mine having never driven one; I had a 718 S on a test for a day from Porsche and loved it, but not the sound so much and after reading/watching a lot of reviews, including the Steve Sutcliffe one that was previously mentioned here, i decided a 981 CGTS would be the car for me, so bought one without a drive which maybe was an error in hindsight! Almost from the first drive home though I knew something wasn't right and it wasn't quite as exciting as I'd hoped and unfortunately that feeling never went away.
I know a lot of people love them and all those car journos must know what they're talking about, but sadly for me the car never got under my skin and i didn't form an emotional attachment to it, so i sold it - i did make £4k on it as managed to get a decent deal when i bought it (hence buying without driving it as did the deal very quickly). They do still make me look twice on the odd occasions i see them on the road and always wonder if i should give one another try, but my 2 pence worth is i have to agree with the title of this thread.
will let everyone get back to talking bout suspension set up now...
As some have alluded to on here, I found the steering pretty vague, the noise far too "manafactured" and whilst the performance was decent, it wasn't quite enough.
I actually bought mine having never driven one; I had a 718 S on a test for a day from Porsche and loved it, but not the sound so much and after reading/watching a lot of reviews, including the Steve Sutcliffe one that was previously mentioned here, i decided a 981 CGTS would be the car for me, so bought one without a drive which maybe was an error in hindsight! Almost from the first drive home though I knew something wasn't right and it wasn't quite as exciting as I'd hoped and unfortunately that feeling never went away.
I know a lot of people love them and all those car journos must know what they're talking about, but sadly for me the car never got under my skin and i didn't form an emotional attachment to it, so i sold it - i did make £4k on it as managed to get a decent deal when i bought it (hence buying without driving it as did the deal very quickly). They do still make me look twice on the odd occasions i see them on the road and always wonder if i should give one another try, but my 2 pence worth is i have to agree with the title of this thread.
will let everyone get back to talking bout suspension set up now...
Obafemi99 said:
Well getting the thread slightly back on track, I have to say the original thread title does resonate with me. I had a Cayman GTS last year and ended up getting rid of it after less 5 months. I don't know why, I just never bonded with the car properly, it never got under my skin, which is a shame as I was expecting to love it and I do really like the way they look, but that was about as far as it went.
As some have alluded to on here, I found the steering pretty vague, the noise far too "manafactured" and whilst the performance was decent, it wasn't quite enough.
I actually bought mine having never driven one; I had a 718 S on a test for a day from Porsche and loved it, but not the sound so much and after reading/watching a lot of reviews, including the Steve Sutcliffe one that was previously mentioned here, i decided a 981 CGTS would be the car for me, so bought one without a drive which maybe was an error in hindsight! Almost from the first drive home though I knew something wasn't right and it wasn't quite as exciting as I'd hoped and unfortunately that feeling never went away.
I know a lot of people love them and all those car journos must know what they're talking about, but sadly for me the car never got under my skin and i didn't form an emotional attachment to it, so i sold it - i did make £4k on it as managed to get a decent deal when i bought it (hence buying without driving it as did the deal very quickly). They do still make me look twice on the odd occasions i see them on the road and always wonder if i should give one another try, but my 2 pence worth is i have to agree with the title of this thread.
will let everyone get back to talking bout suspension set up now...
I was exactly like that a number of years ago with a Honda S2000, had it for one week and sold it. With the GTS, it only comes alive for me when I am absolutely on it. As some have alluded to on here, I found the steering pretty vague, the noise far too "manafactured" and whilst the performance was decent, it wasn't quite enough.
I actually bought mine having never driven one; I had a 718 S on a test for a day from Porsche and loved it, but not the sound so much and after reading/watching a lot of reviews, including the Steve Sutcliffe one that was previously mentioned here, i decided a 981 CGTS would be the car for me, so bought one without a drive which maybe was an error in hindsight! Almost from the first drive home though I knew something wasn't right and it wasn't quite as exciting as I'd hoped and unfortunately that feeling never went away.
I know a lot of people love them and all those car journos must know what they're talking about, but sadly for me the car never got under my skin and i didn't form an emotional attachment to it, so i sold it - i did make £4k on it as managed to get a decent deal when i bought it (hence buying without driving it as did the deal very quickly). They do still make me look twice on the odd occasions i see them on the road and always wonder if i should give one another try, but my 2 pence worth is i have to agree with the title of this thread.
will let everyone get back to talking bout suspension set up now...
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