winter tyres in uk impossible to find
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its 14 oc at the week end !
The best of the best summer tyres ie the PS4S out perform winter tyes in the wet now, tyres have come a long way.
So with winters you are only getting use when it's bloody cold or snow the rest of the Time a PS4S will outperform one !
That means only Scotland really need winters in the UK, a few years back we did not even have a frost in the mainland next week it's 10oc or better every day.
The best of the best summer tyres ie the PS4S out perform winter tyes in the wet now, tyres have come a long way.
So with winters you are only getting use when it's bloody cold or snow the rest of the Time a PS4S will outperform one !
That means only Scotland really need winters in the UK, a few years back we did not even have a frost in the mainland next week it's 10oc or better every day.
Buy wheels with them already fitted.
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f:0tedblog said:
Tyreleader.co.uk are pretty good.
Summer tyres below 7 degrees start to struggle as the tyre hardens.
Mine will go on this weekend for 3 months then swap back. Dont want to faff about if we get a cold snap
winters also struggle above 2oc ! I don't see the point when you look at wet braking tests from todays best tyres to ave winters !Summer tyres below 7 degrees start to struggle as the tyre hardens.
Mine will go on this weekend for 3 months then swap back. Dont want to faff about if we get a cold snap
most people don't go and buy performance very expensive winters either, in fact most people have an old set they use year on year !
and the trick cuts on a winter don't last long !
the last 2 years I have ran Ps4S and the performance is outstanding in every thing but snow/ice and we get so little in England.
again unless you are on the early shift at 5am or live in Scotland winters seem to be a worse tyre to fit over all !
but then I guess most people don't go out and put PS4S tyres on all their cars like I do binning the oem crap they come with any tyre is better than a P zero !
for some reason tests only talk about snow and ice !!! winter tyres are really s
t on dry roads on brakes !!!also 7oc is bulls
t and marketing, it's more like 2oc and below for the advantage !!! (unless on a track tyres which hate the cold)I would say any one fitting winters in England will be a worse performing tyre more of the time vs a PS4S !!!
if you work the night shift fit winters, if you live up north fit winters, Anything else fit PS4S and have the best road tyre available in the summer and a bloody good wet winter tyre to boot. just take care below 2oc.
and if you have P zero just bin them anyway !
Crispystork said:
So need winter tyres
265/35/r20 (rear)
235/35/r20 (front)
Ive found some rears, i CANNOT for the life of me find any fronts
Where do you guys all get em?
Try https://www.reifen.com/en265/35/r20 (rear)
235/35/r20 (front)
Ive found some rears, i CANNOT for the life of me find any fronts
Where do you guys all get em?
Shipping from Germany to the UK is just 4,95 EUR per two tyres.
I live in Southern Germany and have to fit winter tyres. They make sense here, we will get snow at some point and the last few weeks it has below 2C in the mornings on my drive to work. Personally, unless I lived at a significant altitude (Peak District, Highlands, etc.) I wouldn’t bother fitting winter tyres in the UK.
I'll be honest, i never used to bother with winter tyres in my daily cars, until a few years ago. My daily commute is A/B Roads early mornings and they are awesome. PS4 off and Michelin not sure what winters on. But it needs to be really cold, last year and the year before from Dec to March they stayed on and to be honest there not far of summer tyre performance on the road in slightly warmer conditions. If i was dailying my 981 in the winter, I'd be running winters for sure.
I fell for the marketing and fitted winters about 4 years ago they were st but it did not snow so I was just over all very disappointed in them, the ave winter temp was also 7oc that year.
I work from home and if I do go out it's after 10am, the temps are above 2oc which I think and tests prove where the real cut off it.
on the one hand on forums you get people using CUPs in winter and say they are no problem, and on the other you get winters are a must have.
If you pick the right tyre for the job and temps yes all 3 tyres are better in the right conditions. Sadly or good for us, the UK is very mild and while I think CUPS are damm right scary at sub 5degrees PS4S seem to work better than winters I found during the day, it rare to have England in a big freeze.
I also stress some summer tyres like Pzero go rock hard and are just dangerous tyres even in summer, so a winter tyre might well out perform a P zero N0 ! hence you see people stress how great a winter tyre is, esp if have have on P zero N0 tyres in the 1st place.
t but it did not snow so I was just over all very disappointed in them, the ave winter temp was also 7oc that year.I work from home and if I do go out it's after 10am, the temps are above 2oc which I think and tests prove where the real cut off it.
on the one hand on forums you get people using CUPs in winter and say they are no problem, and on the other you get winters are a must have.
If you pick the right tyre for the job and temps yes all 3 tyres are better in the right conditions. Sadly or good for us, the UK is very mild and while I think CUPS are damm right scary at sub 5degrees PS4S seem to work better than winters I found during the day, it rare to have England in a big freeze.
I also stress some summer tyres like Pzero go rock hard and are just dangerous tyres even in summer, so a winter tyre might well out perform a P zero N0 ! hence you see people stress how great a winter tyre is, esp if have have on P zero N0 tyres in the 1st place.
Crispystork said:
im just stressing cus of the beast from the east last spring... 2 weeks straight of utter chaos
I live up in the Peak District, my parents live on a farm and my in-laws live out in the sticks, so having a 4x4 with proper tyres on makes a massive difference, but that's only because the little back roads that we travelled on were deserted. On the main routes you just got stuck behind artic units jack knifed across the road. Having said that I understand your concern, you don't want to be the one that gets stuck and you don't want to end up with an expensive immovable car stuck in a vulnerable position for lack of proper tyres. I’m amazed that summer tyres now out perform winters in the wet....the one thing I think is noticeable is improved stopping distance in the rain with winters. We have winter tyres because our Cayenne goes to The Alps every year but also as we found last year there were a couple of days when they were very handy last year.
Cheib said:
I’m amazed that summer tyres now out perform winters in the wet....the one thing I think is noticeable is improved stopping distance in the rain with winters. We have winter tyres because our Cayenne goes to The Alps every year but also as we found last year there were a couple of days when they were very handy last year.
I'm not convinced myself. There must be some advantage to winter over summer. Surely in almost freezing temps with a bit of rain a summer would be outbraked by a winter especially if the summer has no heat in it. I'm still on summer tyres here but the last few days I've felt my cars sliding around a bit more. I'm switching to winter next week ... If I can bothered with the jacking and spannering.I deliberated on this very topic a couple of weeks ago.
From what I can tell, winters will outperform summer or all weather tyres in two areas: 1) if it snows and 2) if it's very cold.
In the end I opted to put a set of PS4S's onto my GT4 and I've been really impressed with them. I did take the car out in 3-4 degree temps at about 8.30am on Sunday morning and it performed really well, I didn't have a single complaint.
In all honesty I probably would have bought the full winters had the price been the same as the PS4S's and then run the Cup2's in the summer, however they were twice the price (circa 850 vs 1700 for a full set).
I don't plan to take the GT4 out if it is going to snow and probably won't take it out if it's sub 0 temps either, so I wouldn't get the benefit of the winters.
If it's a daily car and you've got money to burn then go for the Alpines/SottoZero's, but I honestly think you'll be really impressed with the PS4S's
From what I can tell, winters will outperform summer or all weather tyres in two areas: 1) if it snows and 2) if it's very cold.
In the end I opted to put a set of PS4S's onto my GT4 and I've been really impressed with them. I did take the car out in 3-4 degree temps at about 8.30am on Sunday morning and it performed really well, I didn't have a single complaint.
In all honesty I probably would have bought the full winters had the price been the same as the PS4S's and then run the Cup2's in the summer, however they were twice the price (circa 850 vs 1700 for a full set).
I don't plan to take the GT4 out if it is going to snow and probably won't take it out if it's sub 0 temps either, so I wouldn't get the benefit of the winters.
If it's a daily car and you've got money to burn then go for the Alpines/SottoZero's, but I honestly think you'll be really impressed with the PS4S's
Just stick some snow sox in the boot for £25 to get you out of jail if it snows. Rest of the time most decent Michelin’s will be fine for the uk. I’ve been there on the winter tyre thing and while they will give you that mr smug face two or three days each year I decided not to bother again.
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