Cayman S 987 starting problems - HPFP?
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I've had problems starting my Cayman S when it was cold for a while, but it was fine when warmed up. Lately though, it seems to be having problems whether cold or warm. The symptoms, which are engine turning over but not firing for four or five seconds and then idling very roughly for a few seconds more, seem to be consistant with a high pressure fuel pump on the way out.
Am I right that there was a recall on these cars for this and if so, how would I find out if mine was done? I'm hoping it not this as I've heard it's an expensive problem! (aren't they all)
Am I right that there was a recall on these cars for this and if so, how would I find out if mine was done? I'm hoping it not this as I've heard it's an expensive problem! (aren't they all)
You should be able to find out from an OPC if it was done. I think it was only the early 2009 ones that were recalled but could be wrong. I had my HPFP replaced (it's a 2011 model) as it had a slight oil leak and it was a bit of a monster job - I saw the job sheet and it was like a small novel, the HPFP is a pig to get out in a Cayman / Boxster - cost me about €2000 at a French OPC all in. So hopefully it's not the HPFP and something simpler!
Edited by johnconners on Wednesday 2nd January 15:03
Edited by johnconners on Wednesday 2nd January 15:03
Does sound similar to when mine went I'm afraid, the issue progressed to the point where error codes were displayed and then wouldn't start at all, it was diagnosed quickly once in in the workshop. Fortunately I have the extended warranty, it was 3-4 weeks to fix with the dealer - though some of that was waiting for parts. Not aware of a recall, mine's a 2011/11 owned by me since 2016 and in the Porsche network the whole time.
gladiac said:
Does sound similar to when mine went I'm afraid, the issue progressed to the point where error codes were displayed and then wouldn't start at all, it was diagnosed quickly once in in the workshop. Fortunately I have the extended warranty, it was 3-4 weeks to fix with the dealer - though some of that was waiting for parts. Not aware of a recall, mine's a 2011/11 owned by me since 2016 and in the Porsche network the whole time.
Well it has triggered the reduced engine power warning now and ran very rough when I started it this morning. I've booked it in for diagnosis etc next Saturday, I can minimise my usage but will still need it at least once per week for a shortish trip and then a half hour run to the specialist on the day. Hopefully it will keep chugging in until then!
Well, I've had the diagnosis done at the specialist on Monday and the problem is indeed the Fuel pump. Unfortunately, no replacement parts are available and there is apparently a long back order (I'll find out how long next Monday, but he mentioned 40 weeks as an example! Surely not?) I've got the car back now but it still does the same thing and now shows the CEL once its warmed up, after the reduced power disappears.
Does anyone know if:
I can just continue to drive it like this, assuming it continues to start - it's my only car?
Can I remove the CEL using an OBD scanner?
Many thanks for the help
Does anyone know if:
I can just continue to drive it like this, assuming it continues to start - it's my only car?
Can I remove the CEL using an OBD scanner?
Many thanks for the help
The part number is 9A1-110-315-06 - looks like there are some places in the US that claim to have stock and rosepassion.com reckons they'll have stock by the end of February so might not be too long a wait. Ultimately if the HPFP fails you'll just not be able to start the car so as long as you have some roadside assistance you'll be fine. Not ideal though.
johnconners said:
The part number is 9A1-110-315-06 - looks like there are some places in the US that claim to have stock and rosepassion.com reckons they'll have stock by the end of February so might not be too long a wait. Ultimately if the HPFP fails you'll just not be able to start the car so as long as you have some roadside assistance you'll be fine. Not ideal though.
Thanks for that, do you know who in the US would have stock now? I might have to look into getting one shipped here if the wait is too long. Cheers
Is this the one
https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod138550/Porsche-...
Edited by Ultrafunkula on Wednesday 16th January 16:50
So Design 911 are in the UK, might be worth giving them a call to check stock as I don't think their website necessarily reflects the stock levels.
Main one in the US I'm aware of (that says it ships in 7-10 days) is Sunset Porsche Parts: https://www.sunsetporscheparts.com/oem-parts/porsc...
Main one in the US I'm aware of (that says it ships in 7-10 days) is Sunset Porsche Parts: https://www.sunsetporscheparts.com/oem-parts/porsc...
MechMovement said:
Ultrafunkula said:
Thanks John, I may give them a call then depending on how Monday goes.
Hey,Suffering similar issues to you.
What ended up happening with yours?
Ultrafunkula said:
Hi, it was indeed the HPFP, I had it replaced by the local specialist and it's been running like a dream ever since. Once it started deteriorating there was only a few weeks until it was very difficult to start and always ran on reduced power, I wouldn't let it get to that point of possible.
How much did that set you back and which specialist did you use (if you don't mind divulging, happy for you to PM me)Mine has not started to struggle to fire up, start, hunt idle and then die.
MechMovement said:
Ultrafunkula said:
Hi, it was indeed the HPFP, I had it replaced by the local specialist and it's been running like a dream ever since. Once it started deteriorating there was only a few weeks until it was very difficult to start and always ran on reduced power, I wouldn't let it get to that point of possible.
How much did that set you back and which specialist did you use (if you don't mind divulging, happy for you to PM me)Mine has not started to struggle to fire up, start, hunt idle and then die.
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