6 Cylinder 718 GTS ?
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tedblog said:
Not at all it applies to all cars that split models etc,the TT for example, nothing to do with branding. If Alpine did a convertable it wouldnt automatically double the A110 sales, a true comparison would be if they only did a cayman then yes like for like sales wouldnt be no arguement, but they do and the A110 doesnt. I dont own a Porsche but whereas you own a A110 , so i think its you that has Alpine Prescription glasses on?
My previous car was a 981S and have had a 718 for the day (and driven lots of other stuff including Lotus recently) so I have absolutely no reason to view the A110 on anything other than its merits as I see them. I didn't need to change from the 981S at all (I buy cars outright - so no leasing pressures) If Alpine did a convertible I think it very likely it would double their sales - the Boxster outsells the Cayman, for example.
Edited by bcr5784 on Sunday 20th October 21:22
Mad Scientist said:
dreamcar said:
Mad Scientist said:
I’ve lost track of how many threads I’ve made this comment on, so I should probably just pipe down. However.
How long do you think it will take Germany to sort a trade deal with us, when we are the biggest export market for their biggest export?
Bigger than the USA or China? I think not somehow!How long do you think it will take Germany to sort a trade deal with us, when we are the biggest export market for their biggest export?
We also make 500k German cars a year and send them to Germany.
dreamcar said:
I don’t want to derail this thread into a Brexit debate but the fact remains a No Deal Brexit is still a real possibility, and in that situation already expensive 718 models will become even more so. Nearly £80k for a six cylinder non GT 718 is silly money. I could not justify that kind of money I’m afraid. Time to look at the pre-owned models. I’m not for changing at today’s prices, and a no deal surcharge would be the final nail in the coffin of buying another new Porsche!
A no deal Brexit does not mean we will not get deals done with Germany, imo it would take about 1.2 seconds for Germany to give us a deal with no tariffs and visa virsa, In fact I would say a deal in the background has already been done just in case there is a no deal.If I were PM I would have got deals done 3 years ago with every country. You telling me they have sat on their arses for 3 years !
Porsche911R said:
A no deal Brexit does not mean we will not get deals done with Germany, imo it would take about 1.2 seconds for Germany to give us a deal with no tariffs and visa virsa, In fact I would say a deal in the background has already been done just in case there is a no deal.
If I were PM I would have got deals done 3 years ago with every country. You telling me they have sat on their arses for 3 years !
Hey guys could we please talk about the 6 Cylinder 718 GTS, if you want to debate politics there's another forum on here for that.If I were PM I would have got deals done 3 years ago with every country. You telling me they have sat on their arses for 3 years !
tedblog said:
bcr5784 said:
You are clutching at straws. If you don't think, it is highly significant that a brand with no kudos outside France and with a feeble dealer network comfortably outsells its most obvious and much stronger brand rival you need to take a trip to Specsavers. You are viewing the world with Porsche presciption lenses.
Not at all it applies to all cars that split models etc,the TT for example, nothing to do with branding. If Alpine did a convertable it wouldnt automatically double the A110 sales, a true comparison would be if they only did a cayman then yes like for like sales wouldnt be no arguement, but they do and the A110 doesnt. I dont own a Porsche but whereas you own a A110 , so i think its you that has Alpine Prescription glasses on?the A110, hardtop only, is comfortably outperforming 718 sales of Boxsters and Caymans combined. even if Alpine made a soft top and the combined sales of hard and soft top were the same as hard top only, the Alpine would still be outperforming the 718...
am i missing the point here?
JasonSteel said:
doesn't your argument just reinforce bcr's?
the A110, hardtop only, is comfortably outperforming 718 sales of Boxsters and Caymans combined. even if Alpine made a soft top and the combined sales of hard and soft top were the same as hard top only, the Alpine would still be outperforming the 718...
am i missing the point here?
Its not outselling the 718 combined.its actually 1400 less.the A110, hardtop only, is comfortably outperforming 718 sales of Boxsters and Caymans combined. even if Alpine made a soft top and the combined sales of hard and soft top were the same as hard top only, the Alpine would still be outperforming the 718...
am i missing the point here?
The senario doesnt exit so its just assumptions? If you want a a110 you have a choice of 1 car thats it . As ive said if they released a convertable sales wouldnt double?
Its the choice available
The boxster outsells the cayman in uk and the cayman outsells the alpine in the uk?
Does it matter about europe ?
Edited by tedblog on Monday 21st October 12:26
Porsche911R said:
A no deal Brexit does not mean we will not get deals done with Germany, imo it would take about 1.2 seconds for Germany to give us a deal with no tariffs and visa virsa, In fact I would say a deal in the background has already been done just in case there is a no deal.
If I were PM I would have got deals done 3 years ago with every country. You telling me they have sat on their arses for 3 years !
Post Brexit Germany will never negotiate a deal with the UK. But the EU might... eventually... when all 27 member states can agree what should be in the deal and at what tariff.If I were PM I would have got deals done 3 years ago with every country. You telling me they have sat on their arses for 3 years !
AW10 said:
Post Brexit Germany will never negotiate a deal with the UK. But the EU might... eventually... when all 27 member states can agree what should be in the deal and at what tariff.
Don't be so sure, Germany and France cannot really cope with a no deal tarrif and while there are 27 member states, not many pay in !!!They need a deal Brexit, how that will happen is any ones guess atm.
Porsche911R said:
Don't be so sure, Germany and France cannot really cope with a no deal tarrif and while there are 27 member states, not many pay in !!!
They need a deal Brexit, how that will happen is any ones guess atm.
All the big Euro zone countries currently enjoy huge trade surpluses with the UK.As an example Germany export twice as much to the UK in monetary terms compared to vice versa..The UK's trade deficit with the Eurozone countries is around 100B Euros. Europe needs us as much as we need them because of this..They need a deal Brexit, how that will happen is any ones guess atm.
In Germany over a million highly skilled manufacturing jobs is solely reliant on exporting goods to the UK.
I sincerely wish that one way or another all this Brexit nonsense will be over by November 1st 2019 as the continued uncertainty is stifling investment both at personal, corporate and public level..Bercow should have been sacked a long time ago as he's way to biased and spiteful to hold the supposedly neutral position of being Speaker of the House of Commons.
Edited by Taffy66 on Monday 21st October 13:46
Taffy66 said:
Porsche911R said:
Don't be so sure, Germany and France cannot really cope with a no deal tarrif and while there are 27 member states, not many pay in !!!
They need a deal Brexit, how that will happen is any ones guess atm.
All the big Euro zone countries currently enjoy huge trade surpluses with the UK.As an example Germany export twice as much to the UK in monetary terms compared to vice versa..The UK's trade deficit with the Eurozone countries is around 100B Euros. Europe needs us as much as we need them because of this..They need a deal Brexit, how that will happen is any ones guess atm.
In Germany over a million highly skilled manufacturing jobs is solely reliant on exporting goods to the UK.
I sincerely wish that one way or another all this Brexit nonsense will be over by November 1st 2019 as the continued uncertainty is stifling investment both at personal, corporate and public level..Bercow should have been sacked a long time ago as he's way to biased and spiteful to hold the supposedly neutral position of being Speaker of the House of Commons.
Edited by Taffy66 on Monday 21st October 13:46
I can see riots and mass civil disobedience occurring soon if the democratic vote is not carried out. It is clear they are obsessed with hatching more underhanded and disingenuous scams to try and “undo” Brexit. The latest 2nd ref scam/plan is nothing short of outrageous. Remain as an option was taken off the table in 2016 so only options should now be out with a deal or no deal, and under the latter option perhaps we won’t all starve.
ETA sorry we appear to have turned this into an NP&E thread...
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 21st October 14:40
Schmed said:
Absolutely. They finally have a viable opportunity to end some of the uncertainty but choose to ignore it and continue to play games.
I can see riots and mass civil disobedience occurring soon if the democratic vote is not carried out. It is clear they are obsessed with hatching more underhanded and disingenuous scams to try and “undo” Brexit. The latest 2nd ref scam/plan is nothing short of outrageous. Remain as an option was taken off the table in 2016 so only options should now be out with a deal or no deal, and under the latter option perhaps we won’t all starve.
I agree with everything you say word for word.
I can see riots and mass civil disobedience occurring soon if the democratic vote is not carried out. It is clear they are obsessed with hatching more underhanded and disingenuous scams to try and “undo” Brexit. The latest 2nd ref scam/plan is nothing short of outrageous. Remain as an option was taken off the table in 2016 so only options should now be out with a deal or no deal, and under the latter option perhaps we won’t all starve.
I agree with everything you say word for word.
Porsche911R said:
AW10 said:
Post Brexit Germany will never negotiate a deal with the UK. But the EU might... eventually... when all 27 member states can agree what should be in the deal and at what tariff.
Don't be so sure, Germany and France cannot really cope with a no deal tarrif and while there are 27 member states, not many pay in !!!They need a deal Brexit, how that will happen is any ones guess atm.
Edited by lids.mod on Tuesday 22 October 09:03
Re marketing... Isn’t that all cars, all products... everything on sale?
A 718 ‘6’... Porsche clearly feel/know there are customer out there who want such a car, in fact wanted one from the moment the 718 was announced... now everyone can be happy. Even you
A 718 ‘6’... Porsche clearly feel/know there are customer out there who want such a car, in fact wanted one from the moment the 718 was announced... now everyone can be happy. Even you
Edited by lids.mod on Tuesday 22 October 09:04
I have just been told by my local PC that the car can't be ordered yet and deposits can't be taken. They also think that it may be delayed and be a run out model for the 718 before the electric replacement in 2021. It is to be a regular car i.e. non invite, but numbers may be restricted as it will be the end of the line.
We have a 2.7 986 and a 991.2 and would consider replacing with a 718/ 6 or whatever it is to be called.
We have a 2.7 986 and a 991.2 and would consider replacing with a 718/ 6 or whatever it is to be called.
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