New 718 refresh end of year

New 718 refresh end of year

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julian718

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Monday 13th May
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I have heard from my Porsche Dealership that by the end of this year they expect to see a face lift refresh to the 718 range. Possibly the dash and centre tunnel to be more like the way the 911 has gone and the other models in the range. I was wondering if anyone else had heard of this, or even expects it? and what changes do you think they might make? perhaps the lime green stitch that is now available on the Cayman and Boxster T ?

Thanks
Julian

130R

5,908 posts

147 months

Monday 13th May
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I've seen you can spec Gentian Blue and Aventurine Green with a 718 on the configurator now

cmoose

44,330 posts

170 months

Monday 13th May
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718 would normally be due a whole model based on the 992 platform around about now. That apparently isn't happening. So a mild facelift of the existing car is probably on the cards to keep things ticking over until the pure-electric model appears in, say, 2023.

I wouldn't expect anything dramatic. Probably less involved than the facelift of the 981 that gave us the 982 / 718.

Will be interesting to see what happens with the rumoured 718 '6'.

delays

668 posts

156 months

Monday 13th May
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Any truth to the rumours that they're not selling very well?

julian718

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Monday 13th May
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Thank you all for your comments so far. This is my first forum posting I should add.
My dealership, west London, said they were selling Caymans like hot cakes. But not manual ones. Apparently 1 in 100 is a manual, which is a shame as my search for a used Cayman GTS manual in black just gets harder.

I checked out the T model but it felt really cheap, and regardless of the spec difference vs the GTS, (comparing apples with oranges) it just felt very plastic in comparison and the grey wheels, badge, mirror caps just don’t work against a black car. It could do, can do, but this shade and gloss of the grey doesn’t work with black.



My GTS spec would be this
http://www.porsche-code.com/PL29IFL1

And my T spec would have been this

http://www.porsche-code.com/PLK4DZ42

but the cost is getting too close to GTS levels.
I think I will wait for a while and see what face lift it gets and perhaps in time, maybe by 2021 (for the Ultra Low zone extension in London) a manual black GTS will have come up for sale, but I sense it will be a needle in a haystack.

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Twinfan

3,607 posts

45 months

Monday 13th May
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The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.

130R

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147 months

Monday 13th May
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Twinfan said:
The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.
I wouldn't if it is a daily driver. Carrera T would be what I would look at as a used alternative.

churchie2856

49 posts

131 months

Monday 13th May
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About to pull the trigger on 718 Cayman (something like this ... http://www.porsche-code.com/PLRZVPE7 ... though could leave PTV/LSD, and add Aventurine and black Sport-Tex).

But now I hear there's a refresh on the cards. I guess this is not that surprising as there's been the base, S, GTS, T ... and soon GT/Touring (OPC Hatfield suggest a flat-6 was just around the corner, but could say no more); this signals a change is due.

I can't see Porsche fitting a 992 style-dash into a 982 for just a few more years, nor discontinuing the flat-4. So realistically what could the refresh comprise?

More kit as standard (with a price hike no doubt).

Do I defer my purchase and risk loss of manual (if new they'll bound to bring out PDK first) and 18" wheels?
Do I drive a hard deal on above build? (say discount all options by 50%)

I hate it when people change things!!!


Dr S

4,287 posts

167 months

Monday 13th May
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130R said:
Twinfan said:
The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.
I wouldn't if it is a daily driver. Carrera T would be what I would look at as a used alternative.
I would concur with that

julian718

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Tuesday 14th May
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Twinfan said:
The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.
I like the GT4 but the design language now looks very dated. It would be overkill as a daily driver for me, and I'd never take advantage of its full offering.

julian718

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Tuesday 14th May
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Dr S said:
130R said:
Twinfan said:
The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.
I wouldn't if it is a daily driver. Carrera T would be what I would look at as a used alternative.
I would concur with that
The materials and styling of the Carrera T feels cheap in comparison to the Cayman GTS. That gloss black plastic trim is so cheap looking and its too much leather everywhere, feels cold, whereas the CGTS with Alcantera is a nicer place to be. Furthermore the Carrera T is another approx 15K and I have to draw the line at some point, otherwise at that money the next reply would be, "go for the new 911" smile

Schmed

944 posts

13 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Base has everything you need in my view, as fast if not faster than a 981S, just pick a couple of essential options (rear parking sensors, 35w headlights) and you’re sorted for ~45k.

cmoose

44,330 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th May
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julian718 said:
I like the GT4 but the design language now looks very dated. It would be overkill as a daily driver for me, and I'd never take advantage of its full offering.
Not going to do that with any of these cars. 718S/GTS probably quicker on the road than a GT4. You're not going to get near the full capability of any of these cars, so I'd ignore that as a concern. it applies to all of them.

What's more involving to drive, that's another question. of the cars here, I'd say that's comfortably the GT4.

Literally all of these cars are wall-to-wall carpets, assisted steering and brakes etc etc. All easy daily drivers if that's what you want to do with them. The notion that the GT4 is particularly hardcore, or a track car etc, does not reflect reality. GT4 likely to depreciate less, to boot.

Twinfan

3,607 posts

45 months

Tuesday 14th May
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My points exactly. GT4 is a much more sensible buy if you're looking to spend £75k on a relatively new manual gearbox equipped Porsche sports car.

cmoose

44,330 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th May
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In the same rough price range, if you insist on as modern as possible, a lightly used Carrera T like this seems massively preferable over a maxxed out 718:

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/911-Carrera-T-...

Looks fab with buckets and a manual box.

Or hold out a bit and see what happens with the 718 '6'. If the rumours are true and there's going to be a flat six model below the GT4, base price will probably be in this ball park...and would be so much nicer than any of the four banger 718s.

130R

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147 months

Tuesday 14th May
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cmoose said:
Or hold out a bit and see what happens with the 718 '6'. If the rumours are true and there's going to be a flat six model below the GT4, base price will probably be in this ball park...and would be so much nicer than any of the four banger 718s.
That's an imaginary car at this point. Why not just buy a GTS now and change to that if it ever shows up.

cmoose

44,330 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th May
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130R said:
hat's an imaginary car at this point. Why not just buy a GTS now and change to that if it ever shows up.
If you're going to go multiple cars, I'd go 981 GTS now and then 781 '6' when it comes. The four banger lump is just too grim. Especially in a bloody £70k car.

130R

5,908 posts

147 months

Tuesday 14th May
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cmoose said:
If you're going to go multiple cars, I'd go 981 GTS now and then 781 '6' when it comes. The four banger lump is just too grim. Especially in a bloody £70k car.
Yawn. I'm sure if a 781 '6' does happen you'll find some excuse why you are not buying one

Twinfan

3,607 posts

45 months

Tuesday 14th May
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cmoose said:
If you're going to go multiple cars, I'd go 981 GTS now and then 781 '6' when it comes. The four banger lump is just too grim. Especially in a bloody £70k car.
Agreed. This is the only manual 981 GTS for sale at the moment though. Much more choice if you look at GT4s.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

cmoose

44,330 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th May
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130R said:
awn. I'm sure if a 781 '6' does happen you'll find some excuse why you are not buying one
Let me guess what car I'd find i your profile if I had a look. Yawn, indeed!