The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

[NBTBRV8]

Sandy59 said:

Fully agree, never had the urge to spec this.

Disagree, I'd spec it every time. Looks way better than cheap plastic.

[Twinfan]

freedman said:

From all accounts the '6' isn't based on the GT4 platform though, its just a standard 718 with a 6 cyl engine.

So it will address the issue with sound from the 4 cyl, but it isn't really a GT4 touring in any way

Correct. I compared pics and the 718-6 has smaller PCCBs than the GT4/Spyder, so it's going to be an engine option on the regular 718 platform. Think of it as a T or GTS alternative.

[GT4P]

freedman said:

From all accounts the '6' isn't based on the GT4 platform though, its just a standard 718 with a 6 cyl engine.

So it will address the issue with sound from the 4 cyl, but it isn't really a GT4 touring in any way

That actually may not be a bad thing for a road car as long as you can spec X73 suspension and buckets! Not having gt4 platform etc keeps price down , they may even return engine back to 3.8 and perhaps 380-390hp.
Also they may actually fit PDK to that model as well

[Twinfan]

X73 won't be available, it's all PASM now.

For cost reasons it'll be the same 4.0ltr as in the GT4 and Spyder for sure, but it'll be detuned to 380bhp-ish by all acounts.

[BE57JAM]

anonymous said:

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Agreed!

Ironic that the 718 GTS is 8 or 9% faster to 60 than the track focused, singing, emotive, beautiful NA 6.

A smack in the face / dose of reality to every keyboard warrior slagging off the 4 pot?

You’ve made your bed guys, lay in it - hahahahaha

[mr pg]

What's the betting the first reviews will see the published 0-60 bettered? I'm thinking 4s achievable. Well known that Porsche are conservative, and are people comparing pdk times v manuals?

[TDT]

BE57JAM said:

Agreed!

Ironic that the 718 GTS is 8 or 9% faster to 60 than the track focused, singing, emotive, beautiful NA 6.

A smack in the face / dose of reality to every keyboard warrior slagging off the 4 pot?

You’ve made your bed guys, lay in it - hahahahaha

Lol - this is true - but the 911 GTS is as quick as the GT3 0-60 and the Turbo quicker still.
GT cars are not about 0-60... and after that first lap - the GT cars will continue to pull the same performance repeatedly, lap after lap, after lap.
The cooking cars will start to drop off once heat starts to soak in.

[housen]

https://www.porsche-code.com/PL4LNNP8

my effort

[Porsche911R]

TDT said:

Lol - this is true - but the 911 GTS is as quick as the GT3 0-60 and the Turbo quicker still.
GT cars are not about 0-60... and after that first lap - the GT cars will continue to pull the same performance repeatedly, lap after lap, after lap.
The cooking cars will start to drop off once heat starts to soak in.

we all like a bit more performance esp after a go in Chris W car ;-)

[av185]

GT4RS said:

av185 said:

GT4P said:

I fail to see why you need to spend in excess of £85k on the 718 gt4/spyder, all you need to add is the PDLS/LED lights, leather and seats of choice nothing else adds to the driving experience or future values. Some may argue the ceramics but the steels are perfectly effective, as they say less is more! But each to their own the trinket options are longer this time round to tempt prospective buyers to part with more cash!

Ceramics add little value and values of 981 GT4 ceramic braked cars v steels confirm this. Will be the same for the 718.

Lighting upgrades also not reflected in higher residuals on 981 GT4s.

No brainer options also adding value uplift are buckets, climate, carbon trim, leather and coloured stitching, climate and possibly chrono.

Clubsport car premiums probably won't exceed costed option depending how many are specced new.

Wouldn’t Club sport, buckets, leather, leather stitching, and rear park sensors is a minimum?

Nah I wouldn't bother with CS on a GT4 on the basis it's a rip off c£3500 odd more like on the 981. The cages tend to be overly creaky too. And upset the fine balance of the car too according to WR., not that any of us could tell.

Parking sensors wasted on a GT Porsche imo.

[TDT]

Porsche911R said:

TDT said:

Lol - this is true - but the 911 GTS is as quick as the GT3 0-60 and the Turbo quicker still.
GT cars are not about 0-60... and after that first lap - the GT cars will continue to pull the same performance repeatedly, lap after lap, after lap.
The cooking cars will start to drop off once heat starts to soak in.

we all like a bit more performance esp after a go in Chris W car ;-)

I've been doing the sums all night. I've got some video of me following Chris also - trying to gauge the performance on the straights... its impressive. Will post up once I get it all sorted.

[thelostboy]

Juno said:

thelostboy said:

I'm pleased to say I have been phoned to say that I have an allocation in the first batch (my OPC is getting 4). So excited!

I've been patiently watching the classifieds for the perfect 997.2 GT3 and it hasn't quite materialised, so it's nice to see I can spec up a GT4 really well and still be no worse off. Plus there's no need to worry about the issues that might creep in on a 10 year old car.

For those curious:

- An email of intent was sent well over a year ago
- I have history with the OPC (5 or more cars bought)
- I bought a car from them this year (just a Macan Diesel)
- I missed out on the last GT4 (and they knew it)
- I nagged 'my' salesman (in a light hearted way!) relentlessly
- A "please please please" email was sent to the Dealer Principal
- The Dealer Principal then consulted with 'my' salesman, and I got the call this afternoon

I now have to sell my Performante, and look forward to getting back into a proper Porsche!

Sell the Performante what a car you have. I’d be interested to know what they go for now!

Unfortunately for me, I would say the Performante is a relative bargain on the second hand market! They have not held their value like a GT Porsche.

Alas, I need the money so it needs to go. Not feeling sorry for myself though; really looking forward to the GT4!

[thelostboy]

So are we saying Clubsport isn't worth it? I was minded to just go for buckets and save some cash.

Why can't you spec front lift on these! I live in speedhump central

[HammerCJ]

Am I correct in saying the only black available is non-metallic/flat black? A no cost option?

Do we really think 2 zone climate is a must have from a residuals perspective?

Bit confused on the contrasting stitching (rusty from 4 years ago!) - the "leather interior with contrast stitching "is £1242, but then further on there is "decorative stitching in contrasting colour" at £834? Is one for the seats and one for the door/dash?

What colours are the harnesses available in? Red and yellow only? If we go silver/grey contrast stitching and silver/grey belts, can we have silver/grey harnesses? How do we specify?

[av185]

Platinum stitching is the basic and cheapest option with the leather.

Red or yellow is the more expensive...understandably.

Both my GT4 and 981 Spyder have 'manuel' aircon not climate. This works fine but climate fitted cars appear to sell better used.

Edited by av185 on Wednesday 19th June 10:38

[isaldiri]

thelostboy said:

So are we saying Clubsport isn't worth it? I was minded to just go for buckets and save some cash.

Well... If you need harnesses for track then the cs pack is definitely worth it. If you're just looking at residuals then who knows.

[thelostboy]

Ah, so air con is standard. Don't see the point in climate then!

[Twinfan]

HammerCJ said:

Am I correct in saying the only black available is non-metallic/flat black? A no cost option?

Do we really think 2 zone climate is a must have from a residuals perspective?

Bit confused on the contrasting stitching (rusty from 4 years ago!) - the "leather interior with contrast stitching "is £1242, but then further on there is "decorative stitching in contrasting colour" at £834? Is one for the seats and one for the door/dash?

What colours are the harnesses available in? Red and yellow only? If we go silver/grey contrast stitching and silver/grey belts, can we have silver/grey harnesses? How do we specify?

Yes.

Climate is a must in a GT4. Manual aircon in an £80k car is a joke.

Selecting either of the stitching options prompts you to buy the other, so you need both I think? Standard is black stitching with a plastic dash, if you want leather dash you need the contrast stitching too. The configurator prompts you to what you need.

You can't get silver/grey in a GT4, only Spyder.

[HammerCJ]

anonymous said:

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My current 981 GT4 has regular air con and is absolutely fine - I hardly ever turn it on if I'm honest. I agree the question is if when you come to sell it makes any difference.

So from what you are saying, it's £2k for stitching in a contrast colour, which is ever so slightly excessive! And if I go for PCCBs, i would only want yellow stitching, not red...but I think all that yellow in the cabin might give me a headache, and so am considering more muted contrast this time in platinum/silver/grey. The question again is will the used market view this as poverty spec?

[Twinfan]

Each to their own, of course, but it's 2019 and entry level town cars have the very useful climate system these days.