The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!
Discussion
WG said:
mobil1 said:
That's great news about your allocation. I also received the same call yesterday about my pdk spyder allocation. opc says this is the only one they are expecting this year so i guess it will be a rare car. Anyway, whats your spec? I'm having difficulty with the colour and seats. Colour will either be the Gentian blue or GT silver. Seats is another story and more confusing! Car will never be tracked. Twisty B roads and trips to wales and the highlands will be on the menu. 918 buckets are too upright, uncomfortable and have no seat heating so torn between the standard seats and 18 ways. somehow i feel the 18 ways go against the whole idea of a light car - manual roof, fabric door handles, etc. opc has recommended the 18 ways. I also think that the Porsche launch video has the standard seats. It's such a shame that Porsche have decided to delete the folding bucket option as that had seat heating, back adjustment and was a bit more comfortable than the 918 buckets. I would appreciate the thoughts of other spyder owners on the seats issue. Thank you.
I have gone for Gentian Blue, black interior with silver stitching, satin platinum wheels, black calipers plus some other bits and pieces. Resisted hi fi upgrade as I feel waste of time in a convertible and I rarely listen to anything other than the engine in my current car - which may surprise some on here as it is a 2.5 GTS ! Re the seats I find the buckets a PITA getting in and out and dont see the point of 18 ways as I am the only driver of the car and the sports seats once adjusted are perfectly comfortable. Worth checking the exact spec of the fixed buckets as Porsche have evidently slightly redesigned these for the 992 GT3 making them slightly broader at the shoulders similar to the older discontinued folding buckets which are also narrower at the hips than the fixed buckets.
My 981 Spyder folding bucket with heaters so great for a cab and great seats too but having several Porsches GTs with the newer fixed buckets I prefer these and they look far better too.
Wouldn't order a new focused Spyder with comforts unless you really need too plus they are worth much less money used if you need to resell if that concerns you.
My 981 Spyder folding bucket with heaters so great for a cab and great seats too but having several Porsches GTs with the newer fixed buckets I prefer these and they look far better too.
Wouldn't order a new focused Spyder with comforts unless you really need too plus they are worth much less money used if you need to resell if that concerns you.
Thank you all for your advice. It's appreciated. As the car will not be tracked and used more as a Tourer/spirited drives, I don't feel that the buckets are necessary imho. The OPC has said that most Spyders are configured in this way (2/18 ways), whereas the GT4's are mainly buckets - rightly so as they will likely see more track use. OPC also says that resale will not make a difference as they are happy to accept the comfort seats on the Spyder without marking down the vehicle financially. Indeed over the past three months or so I have been looking at the Porsche approved used 718 Spyders in case I did not receive an allocation. There have been around 6-8 cars at various stages all sold pretty quickly with a combination of comfort/buckets seats. WG makes a very good point in that after the standard seats are set to your liking, they will likely stay in that position. Also saves £1734 on the 18 ways! I also believe that on the Spyder 18 ways, there is no memory function. Decisions, decisions........
mobil1 said:
Thank you all for your advice. It's appreciated. As the car will not be tracked and used more as a Tourer/spirited drives, I don't feel that the buckets are necessary imho. The OPC has said that most Spyders are configured in this way (2/18 ways), whereas the GT4's are mainly buckets - rightly so as they will likely see more track use. OPC also says that resale will not make a difference as they are happy to accept the comfort seats on the Spyder without marking down the vehicle financially. Indeed over the past three months or so I have been looking at the Porsche approved used 718 Spyders in case I did not receive an allocation. There have been around 6-8 cars at various stages all sold pretty quickly with a combination of comfort/buckets seats. WG makes a very good point in that after the standard seats are set to your liking, they will likely stay in that position. Also saves £1734 on the 18 ways! I also believe that on the Spyder 18 ways, there is no memory function. Decisions, decisions........
We have standard seat in our 718 GT4 and father-in-law has same in his 718 Spyder.... they are great, and easy to get comfortable in.... £1.7k is a lot to pay for extra multiple adjustment.....MannyLon said:
"OPC also says that resale will not make a difference".
Please take this with a pinch of salt.
Quite.Please take this with a pinch of salt.
For OPC read new rookie sales guy with no experience of the brand who just arrived from the Kia/Ford dealership.
Unfortunately increasingly par for the course at most OPCs with high staff turnover.
bigmowley said:
Cheers, I bought it as a toy, hooning about, track days and it was either this or a GT4. Initially I didn’t quite gel with it but subsequently I have fallen for it in a big way and its become a keeper, but with a different brief. It’s now the good weather daily, long trips when we don’t need to carry lots of stuff, and the odd Euro trip, and no track days. So the current car is the “wrong” spec 
I’ve got another one due now so I am starting the spec debate all over again:
This time it’s PDK, comfort seats, Mrs BigM doesn’t like buckets, std tyres, steels, etc etc. so the big spec debate rolls on and on. As an added complication I’ve got a B25 due in May which I have comfort specified. The plan is to run both side by side for a good few months to decide which one is the keeper. I need to see if the convenience of the Boxster outweighs the good looks of the Spyder.
First world problems and all that.
Wow lucky man to be having secured 2 Spyders! I’ve got a Spyder allocation in and deposit but no date (I hope it happens as I think it will be 2022) and also a B25 as well. I was told today my B25 won’t appear til October most likely and I think our use will be very similar to you so B25 will be comfort spec’d in manual and I will spec the Spyder with 18 ways and manual as well. I think I will want to keep the Spyder but too many times I’ve sold a car and regretted it so definitely will keep the both for a while. Spyder is definitely the one that gets the heart racing for me - let’s see once I drive both for a while. I’ve got another one due now so I am starting the spec debate all over again:
This time it’s PDK, comfort seats, Mrs BigM doesn’t like buckets, std tyres, steels, etc etc. so the big spec debate rolls on and on. As an added complication I’ve got a B25 due in May which I have comfort specified. The plan is to run both side by side for a good few months to decide which one is the keeper. I need to see if the convenience of the Boxster outweighs the good looks of the Spyder.
First world problems and all that.
Shiverman said:
Wow lucky man to be having secured 2 Spyders! I’ve got a Spyder allocation in and deposit but no date (I hope it happens as I think it will be 2022) and also a B25 as well. I was told today my B25 won’t appear til October most likely and I think our use will be very similar to you so B25 will be comfort spec’d in manual and I will spec the Spyder with 18 ways and manual as well. I think I will want to keep the Spyder but too many times I’ve sold a car and regretted it so definitely will keep the both for a while. Spyder is definitely the one that gets the heart racing for me - let’s see once I drive both for a while.
Hi. How come your b25 is due October? And some are apparently getting there’s in may ? Are you 2nd in line at your opc I wonder ? Cheers 
but the owner selling will be expected to take a very cold shower 
In what must be a huge stroke of luck, I was called by one of the OPCs I'd been speaking with about about a GT4 order, and they told me a spec-amendable build slot for a Spyder had just been cancelled and they wanted to fill it asap.
1 minute later, deposit paid, very happy with that.
Just cancelled the GT4 order I had in with East London, will hopefully be in a Spyder by July.
1 minute later, deposit paid, very happy with that.
Just cancelled the GT4 order I had in with East London, will hopefully be in a Spyder by July.
Jefferson Steelflex said:
In what must be a huge stroke of luck, I was called by one of the OPCs I'd been speaking with about about a GT4 order, and they told me a spec-amendable build slot for a Spyder had just been cancelled and they wanted to fill it asap.
1 minute later, deposit paid, very happy with that.
Just cancelled the GT4 order I had in with East London, will hopefully be in a Spyder by July.
Blimey! All Christmases at once...1 minute later, deposit paid, very happy with that.
Just cancelled the GT4 order I had in with East London, will hopefully be in a Spyder by July.
MannyLon said:
"OPC also says that resale will not make a difference".
Please take this with a pinch of salt.
Not sure I buy this. Porsche have really muddied the waters by no longer offering a heated bucket on the Spyder. The future value trade off for the Spyder is buckets vs heated seats. As a multiple ragtop owner I would never countenance a convertible without heated seats, I suspect I am not alone in this as well, just read the comments in this and other threads about what people who are buying what they want are specifying.Please take this with a pinch of salt.
Clearly on a GT4 it’s a no brainer and buckets should be the first box ticked but on a Spyder not so sure.
I am one of the lucky few with a Spyder with heated buckets so I’ve got the best of both worlds
L.Len said:
Hi. How come your b25 is due October? And some are apparently getting there’s in may ? Are you 2nd in line at your opc I wonder ? Cheers
Apparently there are two production runs on the B25 so I definitely have an allocation. The Spyder I’m next in line but no date ad they don’t have an allocation yet. I guess that one could go south as some people seem to be saying production is winding down. I truly hope not tbh.
As I had stated in my initial post, it's such a shame that Porsche has deleted the heated folding bucket seats. It's certainly the box I would have ticked upon ordering the car. Non heated bucket seats costing nearly £4k is hard to swallow. I guess driving around in the sunshine state of Florida it may not matter about heated seats but here in the UK it's a different matter! I have even asked the OPC to email the factory to see if it's possible to maybe special order the heated folding buckets but I'm not holding my breath! Currently leaning towards the standard seats which are heated now as standard factory fit. Can't see why I should pay £1,8k for the same seats with a few extra electric adjustments.
Spent fully five hours last night on the configuration building my spec, obviously needed to get the Steering Committee to sign off on a few things, but here it is for critique:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PM8T1J65
I’ve got a month or so before it gets locked down. I flipped on colours, on the GT4 i had ordered, i’d have 100% gone for Yellow, but didn’t like that so much on the Spyder and Mrs S wasn’t keen. I’m very very tempted by Python Green, which would mean i’d change back to silver stitch etc. but for now Carrara White it is with a few red accents.
Heated seats was a must-have so that ruled out buckets, and i don’t like silver wheels. The free summer tyre option was interesting, i’ve ticked it for now but i’d like to know what brand of tyres you get.
OPC was telling me i needed to seriously consider PDK for rarity etc., but i want a manual.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PM8T1J65
I’ve got a month or so before it gets locked down. I flipped on colours, on the GT4 i had ordered, i’d have 100% gone for Yellow, but didn’t like that so much on the Spyder and Mrs S wasn’t keen. I’m very very tempted by Python Green, which would mean i’d change back to silver stitch etc. but for now Carrara White it is with a few red accents.
Heated seats was a must-have so that ruled out buckets, and i don’t like silver wheels. The free summer tyre option was interesting, i’ve ticked it for now but i’d like to know what brand of tyres you get.
OPC was telling me i needed to seriously consider PDK for rarity etc., but i want a manual.
Looks like a good spec. I have specced the camera as well as I believe it's really difficult to see out the back due to the "humps". Also, I believe that the rear assist where it goes from green, amber to red has changed and you don't get this anymore.I was also told the same thing about the pdk from the OPC. The car will be very rare especially if this is to be the only builds before Porsche bid au revoir to them. As such, I have ticked the pdk box for now but am in two minds. Apparently the manual is so highly geared that you will spend most of your time in second with the odd shift to third gear. Perhaps current owners can elaborate more on this and the park assist. Totally in agreement with you about the heated seat issue and the buckets. This is just my two pennies worth. My build is also June with a July delivery. Oh and congrats for getting a build slot!
mobil1 said:
I was also told the same thing about the pdk from the OPC. The car will be very rare especially if this is to be the only builds before Porsche bid au revoir to them. As such, I have ticked the pdk box for now but am in two minds. Apparently the manual is so highly geared that you will spend most of your time in second with the odd shift to third gear. Perhaps current owners can elaborate more on this and the park assist. Totally in agreement with you about the heated seat issue and the buckets.
Sounds like your salesperson is fairly clueless if:Firstly he/she reckons the PDK will be rarer than the manual. It will be the opposite as was the case with the 991.2. Only a handful of used manual 991.2 GT3s around compared to PDKs especislly good spec cars.
Secondly the GT3 manual is not highly geared. The gearing is perfect. Sounds like they may be confusing it with a 981 GT4 lol.
On the heated seat issue you don't really need heaters on the GT3 it is not a cab but is a fairly 'hot' car in the cabin anyway. Seems odd to spec comforts just to get the heaters when these seats detract from the whole ethos of the car not just because you sit much lower 'in' the buckets rather than 'on' the comforts. You will also get hammered on resale ££ but that may not bother you and each to their own.
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