The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

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Olderandwiser22

124 posts

55 months

Saturday 20th February
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Lenlec said:
Fair play mate.
My pdk gt4 is costing £84k Lightly specced as well. I think
Your car will be worth over list.

I’m not selling mine btw... I just hate these posters who run everything down.

Love the car and look forward to the spring to drive it more.

MPorsche

79 posts

25 months

Saturday 20th February
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Lenlec said:
When did you place your order ?
Any news on when it’s due ?
My order says estimated delivery 31sr March 2021
its all in the system. Just waiting on porsche to assign a build slot to my spec.

Twinfan

7,517 posts

68 months

Saturday 20th February
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Olderandwiser22 said:
Love the car and look forward to the spring to drive it more.
Sod that - mine was minty clean when it left the driveway this morning and it's now completely covered in ste. What a great day biggrin

Goldjono

213 posts

14 months

Saturday 20th February
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Olderandwiser22 said:
Your car will be worth over list.

I’m not selling mine btw... I just hate these posters who run everything down.

Love the car and look forward to the spring to drive it more.
How is advising people to be cautious and to expect depreciation running things down? Surely it’s better to be prepared for depreciation and not experience it than, expect to make money and loose lots.

ClioTrophy55

270 posts

64 months

Sunday 21st February
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Goldjono said:
ClioTrophy55 said:
I managed to secure a PTS PDK GT4 allocation. May build. PTS window now closed.
My understanding is the window is always open for PTS now just there are limited build slots
Only relaying what I was told whilst interacting with OPC and PGB this week on my PTS build spec - PTS on 718 is now (as in the current set of allocations given out in the last few weeks for for May-ish build) and not at all thereafter in 2021.

ClioTrophy55

270 posts

64 months

Sunday 21st February
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CardiffTam said:
ClioTrophy55 said:
I managed to secure a PTS PDK GT4 allocation. May build. PTS window now closed.
What PTS are you going for?
Thanks for asking, but I'll reveal on delivery.

The tone on here has gone a bit toxic recently and today I'm not up for defending why I didn't choose Voodoo Blue (or whatever the "experts" tell me I should have for adherence to tradition or for resale value optimisation).


av185

13,141 posts

91 months

Sunday 21st February
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Olderandwiser22 said:
Your car will be worth over list.

I’m not selling mine btw... I just hate these posters who run everything down.
+1

av185

13,141 posts

91 months

Sunday 21st February
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Goldjono said:
av185 said:
We rest our case.

We by any car often overpay for cars, so not a great reflection on the market. They will value a base one the same as one with PCCB and buckets etc, so great price on a lightly spec’d car and very poor on a very highly spec’d car
Nope, if you have dealt with WBAC you will know their bids are often way off the mark being way too low for particularly specialist cars especially Porsche GTs. This reflects the fact that 99.9 % of their cars are sold on into the trade through British Car Auctions who own them. Their bid will reflect the price the car will probably get in the auction less their often ott costs as well as a large commission. Anyone dealing with them does so at their own peril. Furthermore it is all very well quoting a price online but they will also tend to downvalue a poorly specced basic car further as an 'adjustment' on seeing the car in the flesh.

They may bid on a car but that is often meaningless in terms of an accurate valuation. Its a bit like trying to get an accurate quote online for high value or specialist car insurance through the likes of Admiral et al their are basically clueless as they are mainly intersted in mainstream stuff.

Much better speaking to an OPC buyer you know and trust who specialises in these cars or a reputable quality indie such as Romans JZM Bramley or Redline who know the market and will secure a much higher figure £.

Goldjono

213 posts

14 months

Sunday 21st February
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ClioTrophy55 said:
Only relaying what I was told whilst interacting with OPC and PGB this week on my PTS build spec - PTS on 718 is now (as in the current set of allocations given out in the last few weeks for for May-ish build) and not at all thereafter in 2021.
Sorry I was told differently, when placing my 718 PTS Spyder order that there would be 2 718 build slots per quarter, I guess their plans have changed, possibly to enable them to offer more PTS slots for the 992 GT3, I think there are 11 PTS 992 GT3s in the first UK batch of cars.

Goldjono

213 posts

14 months

Sunday 21st February
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av185 said:
Nope, if you have dealt with WBAC you will know their bids are often way off the mark being way too low for particularly specialist cars especially Porsche GTs. This reflects the fact that 99.9 % of their cars are sold on into the trade through British Car Auctions who own them. Their bid will reflect the price the car will probably get in the auction less their often ott costs as well as a large commission. Anyone dealing with them does so at their own peril. Furthermore it is all very well quoting a price online but they will also tend to downvalue a poorly specced basic car further as an 'adjustment' on seeing the car in the flesh.

They may bid on a car but that is often meaningless in terms of an accurate valuation. Its a bit like trying to get an accurate quote online for high value or specialist car insurance through the likes of Admiral et al their are basically clueless as they are mainly intersted in mainstream stuff.

Much better speaking to an OPC buyer you know and trust who specialises in these cars or a reputable quality indie such as Romans JZM Bramley or Redline who know the market and will secure a much higher figure £.
I could have have bought my 981 back from an OPC for less than WCAC paid for it, they must have lost thousands on it. At the moment it doesn’t matter how special your car is no where is buying into stock dealers are only interested in sale or returns at the moment. There are quite a few cars changing hands at fair values without ever getting advertised. A lot of the advertised cars have been for sale for an extended period of time.

CardiffTam

165 posts

128 months

Sunday 21st February
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ClioTrophy55 said:
Thanks for asking, but I'll reveal on delivery.

The tone on here has gone a bit toxic recently and today I'm not up for defending why I didn't choose Voodoo Blue (or whatever the "experts" tell me I should have for adherence to tradition or for resale value optimisation).
Fair enough. I will watch with interest as PTS is always a nice variation from the norm whatever choice someone makes.

ClioTrophy55

270 posts

64 months

Sunday 21st February
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Goldjono said:
ClioTrophy55 said:
Only relaying what I was told whilst interacting with OPC and PGB this week on my PTS build spec - PTS on 718 is now (as in the current set of allocations given out in the last few weeks for for May-ish build) and not at all thereafter in 2021.
Sorry I was told differently, when placing my 718 PTS Spyder order that there would be 2 718 build slots per quarter, I guess their plans have changed, possibly to enable them to offer more PTS slots for the 992 GT3, I think there are 11 PTS 992 GT3s in the first UK batch of cars.
I think you might be spot on re GT3 impact on the latest situation.

daro911

727 posts

216 months

Sunday 21st February
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ClioTrophy55 said:
The tone on here has gone a bit toxic recently and today I'm not up for defending why I didn't choose Voodoo Blue (or whatever the "experts" tell me I should have for adherence to tradition or for resale value optimisation).
PTS today is nearly 3 times what I paid back in 2016 so important to have what you want "he who pays the piper calls the tune"

Look forward to the reveal as and when beer



davidc1

1,122 posts

126 months

Sunday 21st February
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Pts is all about what you want . Dont listen to anybody else. If i am ever in a position to go pts i would go maritime blue or macadamia brown.

YellowbirdCH

3 posts

4 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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eyebeebe said:
Just out of curiosity I thought I would look on my local version of Autotrader. This is the cheapest Spyder. Apart from being GT silver where mine is Carrera white, it’s an alarmingly similar spec and new price. They want £33k under list or I’d guess £28k under what was paid for it. The dealer will want £12-15k profit in it as well.

Good job I don’t have any plans to sell mine.

https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/8339674?utm_campaign...
Although at the current exchange rate the car is about £115k at list price. Back in 2005 when I moved to CH the exchange rate was over 2.40 against 1.25 now and it was much cheaper to buy my Boxster in Switzerland than it would have been in the UK. I was also surprised at the time that the dealer held an inventory of new cars.

SuperMario888

31 posts

4 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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davidc1 said:
Pts is all about what you want . Dont listen to anybody else. If i am ever in a position to go pts i would go maritime blue or macadamia brown.
I agree its all about personal choice you should get what you like.

Personally I would go for Dogsh*t Brown. Its amazing in that it changes colour depending on the fuel brand you put in it.

Jefferson Steelflex

935 posts

63 months

Thursday 25th February
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Copied from another thread about GT4s for sale

cardigankid said:
Is anyone aware of any new GT4's or build slots currently available at OPC's?
All I did was ring around a few, I actually ended up placing an order at my local OPC (East London) who I'd avoided because they almost laughed me out of the showroom when I asked last summer. I think I called maybe 4 or 5 OPCs before that, definitely Colchester, Portsmouth and Mayfair in there and all said they wouldn't take a deposit as I would never get a car. That said Colchester are trying to sell their showroom car if you wanted a black one...

The feedback from East London was they would only take a deposit if they were certain I could end up in a car, and I got the call back the following day to say yes, but there is no firm date and only an indicative Q4, or early 2022 expectation. Other posters on here say production is finishing in Q2 and they'll be no more cars, so I'm not sure what to believe.

I went for a manual, so it may be a different conversation if you wanted a PDK?

Twinfan

7,517 posts

68 months

Thursday 25th February
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Jefferson Steelflex said:
I went for a manual, so it may be a different conversation if you wanted a PDK?
PDK car isn't a different model, just an option, so it'll make no difference to build slot availability smile

bigmowley

1,039 posts

140 months

Thursday 25th February
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Twinfan said:
Jefferson Steelflex said:
I went for a manual, so it may be a different conversation if you wanted a PDK?
PDK car isn't a different model, just an option, so it'll make no difference to build slot availability smile
You say that but on my actual order form the model description includes the PDK and the price is correspondingly higher. The PDK does not appear in the options list, like on the Configurator. This would imply that it is in fact a separate model.

ClioTrophy55

270 posts

64 months

Thursday 25th February
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bigmowley said:
Twinfan said:
Jefferson Steelflex said:
I went for a manual, so it may be a different conversation if you wanted a PDK?
PDK car isn't a different model, just an option, so it'll make no difference to build slot availability smile
You say that but on my actual order form the model description includes the PDK and the price is correspondingly higher. The PDK does not appear in the options list, like on the Configurator. This would imply that it is in fact a separate model.
My actual Porsche GB 718 GT4 PDK New Vehicle Order Form signed last week has "Transmission" blanked out in the "Vehicle Description" section, and an entry in "Vehicle Optional Equipment" of:

Code 250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) - £2,000.00

Looks like an option to me.