The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

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Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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MPorsche said:
Thanks for that. I know the JCR with the manifolds sounds amazing but it’s £££££.

Food for thought
No problem.

You need to be careful swapping manifolds and over axle pipes on these cars. You'll most likely get a check engine light on the dash which will need coding out, so that's an ECU hack and a definite warranty issue. Changing the emissions output by reducing the cats or GPF's effects could make your car illegal too without mentioning the problems you may have getting insurance.

IMHO changing the rear silencer only is the way to go if you just want a bit more noise and character. The ECU will adjust accordingly without any intervention and there are plenty of options out there to choose from.

I'd like to hear a JCR silencer in the flesh at some point, just to see how it sounds and if it truly has no drone when pottering about.

SWGT3

445 posts

122 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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MPorsche said:
Thanks for that. I know the JCR with the manifolds sounds amazing but it’s £££££.

Food for thought
I’ve just unbolted the JCR rear silencer from my now sold 718 Spyder in case it’s of interest.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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SWGT3 said:
I’ve just unbolted the JCR rear silencer from my now sold 718 Spyder in case it’s of interest.
Did you find it droned at all between 2k - 3k revs with the roof up?

SWGT3

445 posts

122 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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Twinfan said:
Did you find it droned at all between 2k - 3k revs with the roof up?
Not specifically in that Rev range really. The only time I noticed any real drone with it was when lightly on the throttle through the 50mph average speed sections of the M4. That may well have been in that rev range but didn’t notice it any other time except then strangely.

ETA: sorry just re-read your question - I drove my spyder almost entirely with roof down so can’t answer your specific question accurately I’m afraid.

MrChips

3,264 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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SWGT3 said:
I’ve just unbolted the JCR rear silencer from my now sold 718 Spyder in case it’s of interest.
Are you looking to sell this? (Not that I have my car yet hehe)

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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SWGT3 said:
Not specifically in that Rev range really. The only time I noticed any real drone with it was when lightly on the throttle through the 50mph average speed sections of the M4. That may well have been in that rev range but didn’t notice it any other time except then strangely.

ETA: sorry just re-read your question - I drove my spyder almost entirely with roof down so can’t answer your specific question accurately I’m afraid.
Top stuff, thank you smile

I was just curious to see if JCR had found the magic formula for exhausts on the 4.0 but it seems that maybe there isn't one. Roof up would simulate a GT4 cabin which is why I asked about that specifically, as it will increase the chances of any resonance and be a similar comparison to my car.

Sorry to hear you've sold your Spyder, but I guess you got a great price for it in the current climate!

Gio G

2,949 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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MrChips said:
Are you looking to sell this? (Not that I have my car yet hehe)
What do they resell for out of interest?

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SWGT3

445 posts

122 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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MrChips said:
Are you looking to sell this? (Not that I have my car yet hehe)
Happy to sell it on. Feel free to DM me if you’re interested.

SWGT3

445 posts

122 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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Gio G said:
What do they resell for out of interest?

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I only know of one that has been offered for resale and sold privately. That went for £4400 but at that time there were very long lead times and delays with JCR which I’m not sure is still the case so hard to say really as there aren’t any available that I can find.

MPorsche

202 posts

62 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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SWGT3 said:
MrChips said:
Are you looking to sell this? (Not that I have my car yet hehe)
Happy to sell it on. Feel free to DM me if you’re interested.
In hind sight was it a good purchase?

SWGT3

445 posts

122 months

Saturday 4th September 2021
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MPorsche said:
In hind sight was it a good purchase?
Yes I think so, transformed the sound of the car, particularly when used in conjunction with the valve controller. Wish it was cheaper though!

MPorsche

202 posts

62 months

Saturday 4th September 2021
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SWGT3 said:
Yes I think so, transformed the sound of the car, particularly when used in conjunction with the valve controller. Wish it was cheaper though!
The value controller is in addition to the JCR system?

SWGT3

445 posts

122 months

Saturday 4th September 2021
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MPorsche said:
The value controller is in addition to the JCR system?
Yes. Cargraphic do one, or you can put a grub screw into the line that runs through the front wheel arch for a cheaper fix.

RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Saturday 4th September 2021
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SWGT3 said:
MPorsche said:
The value controller is in addition to the JCR system?
Yes. Cargraphic do one, or you can put a grub screw into the line that runs through the front wheel arch for a cheaper fix.
Grub screw ??? Any more detail / images - thanks smile

Romo

320 posts

117 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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Did a 2,5 hour drive this afternoon, 21 degrees Celsius, just lovely weather and scenery. Its just unbelievable how beautiful this car drives and steers, even at just cruising speeds and enjoying the landscape. I could drive it all day long smile)






JeffC

1,690 posts

213 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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just to save me reading 325 pages , I have Been looking at getting a 718 Spyder but first conversation with OPC doesn't look exactly promising due to a lack of new car purchases and lack of allocations, has everyone here that has ordered all had previous with the dealer or is it possible to get as a new buyer?

Ironically I went down this path when I tried to buy a new 981 Spyder back in 2015 but had the same issues and was lucky enough to find and ended up buying a 500 mile car privately close to the spec I was after.

I am open to buying used again but have noted over the last couple months there has been 14 Spyders for sale in the UK all are manuals and all appear to have been advertised for a good while some up to 4 months, all way over list and the non OPC cars are approaching the end of the warranty period so do not look exactly good buys which I am guessing why they have not sold?

I initially favoured PDK and ideally would prefer a yellow or possibly guards red car hence when looking at used it becomes an uphill struggle to get exactly what I am after . Dealer has suggested a GTS 4.0 which I am not totally against but prefer the looks of Spyder although the ease of the gts roof would appeal.

So having owned a 981 Spyder obviously manual is there much difference in driving the 718 as I did find the lack of zing from the 3.8 motor and long legged manual box a little frustrating and was wondering if the new 4.0 and PDK box helped things any ?


bigmowley

1,904 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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JeffC said:
just to save me reading 325 pages , I have Been looking at getting a 718 Spyder but first conversation with OPC doesn't look exactly promising due to a lack of new car purchases and lack of allocations, has everyone here that has ordered all had previous with the dealer or is it possible to get as a new buyer?

Ironically I went down this path when I tried to buy a new 981 Spyder back in 2015 but had the same issues and was lucky enough to find and ended up buying a 500 mile car privately close to the spec I was after.

I am open to buying used again but have noted over the last couple months there has been 14 Spyders for sale in the UK all are manuals and all appear to have been advertised for a good while some up to 4 months, all way over list and the non OPC cars are approaching the end of the warranty period so do not look exactly good buys which I am guessing why they have not sold?

I initially favoured PDK and ideally would prefer a yellow or possibly guards red car hence when looking at used it becomes an uphill struggle to get exactly what I am after . Dealer has suggested a GTS 4.0 which I am not totally against but prefer the looks of Spyder although the ease of the gts roof would appeal.

So having owned a 981 Spyder obviously manual is there much difference in driving the 718 as I did find the lack of zing from the 3.8 motor and long legged manual box a little frustrating and was wondering if the new 4.0 and PDK box helped things any ?

I can only really help with the last bit. The new 4.0L motor is a peach and much much better than the 3.8L which I thought drove like a high performance diesel engine. Lots of torque in the mid range and then a disappointing top end, no zip.

As for the PDK I am due to collect my new B25 one this month and I am looking forward to finding out if it’s any better a fit to the engine than my manual Spyder.

I do know that as of a couple of weeks ago on the Porsche dealer system the current GT4 and the Spyder are grayed out on the screen with a note saying “no longer available to order”. Make of that what you will but I suspect that if you do not have an order in and accepted / allocated then you will struggle to order one to your spec.


av185

18,530 posts

128 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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Agree with BM the latest engine in the 718 GT4 is a peach so much better than the 981 and actually not far removed from the truly magical 991.2 GT3.

I speak as an enthusiastic 718 GT4 and 991.2 GT3 owner btw and both cars are truly manificent in their own right.

Geoff39GL

574 posts

137 months

Thursday 23rd September 2021
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I have recently tried to order a new Spyder and can confirm that while they were on the configurator you cannot currently place an order.

My OPC contacted Porsche but could not get confirmation that the order book would reopen next year and I had been told that production of the Spyder / GT4 was due to cease in 2022.


JeffC

1,690 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd September 2021
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Geoff39GL said:
I have recently tried to order a new Spyder and can confirm that while they were on the configurator you cannot currently place an order.

My OPC contacted Porsche but could not get confirmation that the order book would reopen next year and I had been told that production of the Spyder / GT4 was due to cease in 2022.
that's a bugger. I did ask the sales guy at the one I contacted and he didnt think production was likely to stop.

My only option may be to keep an eye on used see if anything comes up Second hand.