The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!
Discussion
bigmowley said:
So finally got a good run out in the Spyder. Left Leamington Spa at 9.00 Sunday morning and drove to Nürburg. Great run, data:
Before I went I had the geometry done which was a bit of an eye opener. The front end is perfect. The back is appalling, the rear toe adjustment is maxed out even with the standard rear camber setting. We could only get 1.3 degrees -ve camber on the rear. This has to be a Porsche cock up.
Worse than any other GT product that I have owned.
Unsurprisingly on circuit the car was quite interesting to drive! I very nearly span it on cold tyres.
The front end is brilliant and the rear feels like it’s on casters. Once the tyres are up to temp, which takes a surprisingly long time, it’s fine but very oversteery, which I quite like but it’s definitely not a beginners car. I did 3 lap stints by which time the tyres were at the limit. Incidentally the TPM system does not have a circuit mode which is a PITA, and it must be the only GT car without it. Quite fast, 165mph on the Dottinger by the circuit entry and into the foxhole. Another surprise was the brakes, I have PCCB’s and they basically gave up the ghost after 3 laps with a rock hard pedal and no retardation. There is a lot of pad pick up on the discs now. My GT4 ones were perfect and we spanked that round Spa all day without any grief at all. Poor show Porsche.
I did about 20 odd laps in all, with lots of cool down time.
I left the circuit at 3.00PM German time and got back to Leamington Spa at 10.30PM UK time. Top down the whole way. Brilliant. No back ache in the heated buckets.
Dirty car.
So what I learnt was that the Spyder is deffo not a pukka Porsche GT car, but it’s a brilliant sports car and best kept for just that
Love it
You have written that in a very misleading way, it suggests you drove there did 20 laps and drove back same day. That’s BS given distances involved. Before I went I had the geometry done which was a bit of an eye opener. The front end is perfect. The back is appalling, the rear toe adjustment is maxed out even with the standard rear camber setting. We could only get 1.3 degrees -ve camber on the rear. This has to be a Porsche cock up.
Worse than any other GT product that I have owned.
Unsurprisingly on circuit the car was quite interesting to drive! I very nearly span it on cold tyres.
The front end is brilliant and the rear feels like it’s on casters. Once the tyres are up to temp, which takes a surprisingly long time, it’s fine but very oversteery, which I quite like but it’s definitely not a beginners car. I did 3 lap stints by which time the tyres were at the limit. Incidentally the TPM system does not have a circuit mode which is a PITA, and it must be the only GT car without it. Quite fast, 165mph on the Dottinger by the circuit entry and into the foxhole. Another surprise was the brakes, I have PCCB’s and they basically gave up the ghost after 3 laps with a rock hard pedal and no retardation. There is a lot of pad pick up on the discs now. My GT4 ones were perfect and we spanked that round Spa all day without any grief at all. Poor show Porsche.
I did about 20 odd laps in all, with lots of cool down time.
I left the circuit at 3.00PM German time and got back to Leamington Spa at 10.30PM UK time. Top down the whole way. Brilliant. No back ache in the heated buckets.
Dirty car.
So what I learnt was that the Spyder is deffo not a pukka Porsche GT car, but it’s a brilliant sports car and best kept for just that
Love it
bennno said:
bigmowley said:
So finally got a good run out in the Spyder. Left Leamington Spa at 9.00 Sunday morning and drove to Nürburg. Great run, data:
Before I went I had the geometry done which was a bit of an eye opener. The front end is perfect. The back is appalling, the rear toe adjustment is maxed out even with the standard rear camber setting. We could only get 1.3 degrees -ve camber on the rear. This has to be a Porsche cock up.
Worse than any other GT product that I have owned.
Unsurprisingly on circuit the car was quite interesting to drive! I very nearly span it on cold tyres.
The front end is brilliant and the rear feels like it’s on casters. Once the tyres are up to temp, which takes a surprisingly long time, it’s fine but very oversteery, which I quite like but it’s definitely not a beginners car. I did 3 lap stints by which time the tyres were at the limit. Incidentally the TPM system does not have a circuit mode which is a PITA, and it must be the only GT car without it. Quite fast, 165mph on the Dottinger by the circuit entry and into the foxhole. Another surprise was the brakes, I have PCCB’s and they basically gave up the ghost after 3 laps with a rock hard pedal and no retardation. There is a lot of pad pick up on the discs now. My GT4 ones were perfect and we spanked that round Spa all day without any grief at all. Poor show Porsche.
I did about 20 odd laps in all, with lots of cool down time.
I left the circuit at 3.00PM German time and got back to Leamington Spa at 10.30PM UK time. Top down the whole way. Brilliant. No back ache in the heated buckets.
Dirty car.
So what I learnt was that the Spyder is deffo not a pukka Porsche GT car, but it’s a brilliant sports car and best kept for just that
Love it
You have written that in a very misleading way, it suggests you drove there did 20 laps and drove back same day. That’s BS given distances involved. Before I went I had the geometry done which was a bit of an eye opener. The front end is perfect. The back is appalling, the rear toe adjustment is maxed out even with the standard rear camber setting. We could only get 1.3 degrees -ve camber on the rear. This has to be a Porsche cock up.
Worse than any other GT product that I have owned.
Unsurprisingly on circuit the car was quite interesting to drive! I very nearly span it on cold tyres.
The front end is brilliant and the rear feels like it’s on casters. Once the tyres are up to temp, which takes a surprisingly long time, it’s fine but very oversteery, which I quite like but it’s definitely not a beginners car. I did 3 lap stints by which time the tyres were at the limit. Incidentally the TPM system does not have a circuit mode which is a PITA, and it must be the only GT car without it. Quite fast, 165mph on the Dottinger by the circuit entry and into the foxhole. Another surprise was the brakes, I have PCCB’s and they basically gave up the ghost after 3 laps with a rock hard pedal and no retardation. There is a lot of pad pick up on the discs now. My GT4 ones were perfect and we spanked that round Spa all day without any grief at all. Poor show Porsche.
I did about 20 odd laps in all, with lots of cool down time.
I left the circuit at 3.00PM German time and got back to Leamington Spa at 10.30PM UK time. Top down the whole way. Brilliant. No back ache in the heated buckets.
Dirty car.
So what I learnt was that the Spyder is deffo not a pukka Porsche GT car, but it’s a brilliant sports car and best kept for just that
Love it
Kam 1 said:
Seems like it was due to cheap fuel.... bennno said:
bigmowley said:
Sorry track day was the RSR day on Monday morning. Drove down Sunday, track day and return on Monday. Not clear, criticism accepted.
No prob. Were hotels and restaurants open in area?All hotels open as far as I could tell, I stayed in the Tiergarten and it was busy in the restaurant but quiet in the hotel. Masks everywhere in the hotel, petrol stations etc. Traffic OK quite busy but not at pre Covid levels yet, I got round Brussels at rush hour on Monday evening without stopping.
donutskidmark said:
bigmowley said:
I bloody hope not! They are slowly cleaning up so prob ok, a bit of noise now but no judder. I looked at a new GT3RS that was there and his discs looked the same. I think there may have been a change in OE pad material recently?
Personally I think you should consider selling your Spyder and the Cayman R and investing in a 991.1 GT3RS - I don’t think you’d regret it !
I didn’t buy the Spyder for track work but it’s rude not to try isn’t it
Kam 1 said:
Not sure if dynos are very accurate. Read an article a few years back where it discussed tolerances and the way way the system is set up. 
manand38 said:
Kam 1 said:
Not sure if dynos are very accurate. Read an article a few years back where it discussed tolerances and the way way the system is set up. For absolute numbers it’s always difficult, you can make the rollers say whatever you like.
Porsche911R said:
heated buckets, o wait they have removed that option !!!
Spec it how you want it, it's a new car that's the thrill of buying new you get to spec it for you :-)
The option list is not as long as my recent Cayenne Hybrid purchase! Very hard to tie yourself in knots as the option list is pretty straightforward. Spec it how you want it, it's a new car that's the thrill of buying new you get to spec it for you :-)
Gentian Blue with silver wheels, buckets, alcantara interior. Only decision is whether to go for PCCB or standard brakes, think standard will be fine as I’m not going to track the car on a regular basis.
manand38 said:
Thanks, wondering if I should ppf and Gtech it, expensive but probably worth it.
if you own the car yes or plan to keep it.If it’s rented why bother.
I find it odd these pcp 3 years deals on cars people will never own are willing to spend £5k protecting it when they don’t even own it or plan to ever own it.
Nice watch, nothing new at all, but talks about how the 718 Spyder has adopted the GT4 technologies vs the 981 Spyder.
Takes you under the car…
https://youtu.be/oA8zyC6zevs
Takes you under the car…
https://youtu.be/oA8zyC6zevs
TDT said:
Nice watch, nothing new at all, but talks about how the 718 Spyder has adopted the GT4 technologies vs the 981 Spyder.
Takes you under the car…
https://youtu.be/oA8zyC6zevs
Interesting thanks. Takes you under the car…
https://youtu.be/oA8zyC6zevs
Intriguing that the 718 Spyder has a sound symposer.
Wonder if the GT4 is the same.
GTSJOE said:
The option list is not as long as my recent Cayenne Hybrid purchase! Very hard to tie yourself in knots as the option list is pretty straightforward.
Gentian Blue with silver wheels, buckets, alcantara interior. Only decision is whether to go for PCCB or standard brakes, think standard will be fine as I’m not going to track the car on a regular basis.
With the roof down that does actually looks pretty awesome from that angle but I'm just not sure I could bring myself to drive it with roof up and have to fiddle taking it down all the time. Shame the british climate isn't betterGentian Blue with silver wheels, buckets, alcantara interior. Only decision is whether to go for PCCB or standard brakes, think standard will be fine as I’m not going to track the car on a regular basis.
av185 said:
Interesting thanks.
Intriguing that the 718 Spyder has a sound symposer.
Wonder if the GT4 is the same.
Not really a symposer in the more common sense that gives artificial sound through the in-car audio unit, it looks like the system used on the 981 GTS. It's basically a tube piping intake noise into the cabin. I'd expect the GT4 and GTS 4.0 to have it too.Intriguing that the 718 Spyder has a sound symposer.
Wonder if the GT4 is the same.
Twinfan said:
av185 said:
Interesting thanks.
Intriguing that the 718 Spyder has a sound symposer.
Wonder if the GT4 is the same.
Not really a symposer in the more common sense that gives artificial sound through the in-car audio unit, it looks like the system used on the 981 GTS. It's basically a tube piping intake noise into the cabin. I'd expect the GT4 and GTS 4.0 to have it too.Intriguing that the 718 Spyder has a sound symposer.
Wonder if the GT4 is the same.
Since then others have bastardised the term and play sound tracks through their speakers...
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