GT4 RS breaks cover then...

[BubblesNW]

Taffy66 said:

Don't do it even if offered a GT4 RS..

But if you had a 981GT4 and got offered a 718GT4RS would you just flip it and spend the profit on upgrading the 981 and pocketing the change?

[TDT]

BubblesNW said:

Taffy66 said:

Don't do it even if offered a GT4 RS..

But if you had a 981GT4 and got offered a 718GT4RS would you just flip it and spend the profit on upgrading the 981 and pocketing the change?

I’d hand in the 981 if they wanted it, take the 718 RS and track the wheels off it.

Edited by TDT on Sunday 30th August 22:06

[julian987R]

Porsche911R said:

A GT3 is only £111k you do realise.

Indeed. I do realise that a GT3 is £113K and that the GT4RS is £115k.

[Taffy66]

TDT said:

BubblesNW said:

Taffy66 said:

Don't do it even if offered a GT4 RS..

But if you had a 981GT4 and got offered a 718GT4RS would you just flip it and spend the profit on upgrading the 981 and pocketing the change?

I’d hand in the 981 if they wanted it, take the 718 RS and track the wheels off it.

Edited by TDT on Sunday 30th August 22:06

Agree Tyrone..If i had a GT4 of either generation i'd do anything to upgrade to a GT4 RS. OTOH there is no way i'd hand in my RS WP for one..

[BubblesNW]

Taffy66 said:

TDT said:

BubblesNW said:

Taffy66 said:

Don't do it even if offered a GT4 RS..

But if you had a 981GT4 and got offered a 718GT4RS would you just flip it and spend the profit on upgrading the 981 and pocketing the change?

I’d hand in the 981 if they wanted it, take the 718 RS and track the wheels off it.

Edited by TDT on Sunday 30th August 22:06

Agree Tyrone..If i had a GT4 of either generation i'd do anything to upgrade to a GT4 RS. OTOH there is no way i'd hand in my RS WP for one..

Until we know what the RS has I will keep my powder dry 🤔

[julian987R]

BubblesNW said:

But if you had a 981GT4 and got offered a 718GT4RS would you just flip it and spend the profit on upgrading the 981 and pocketing the change?

I cant imagine that any 981GT4 customer would be in line for an RS. I hope that isn't the case, but I suspect it is.

[TDT]

julian987R said:

BubblesNW said:

But if you had a 981GT4 and got offered a 718GT4RS would you just flip it and spend the profit on upgrading the 981 and pocketing the change?

I cant imagine that any 981GT4 customer would be in line for an RS. I hope that isn't the case, but I suspect it is.

You need to expand your mind mate.... the possibilities are endless.

[MannyLon]

If the RS has flappy paddles only, would people really switch from a manual?

[TDT]

MannyLon said:

If the RS has flappy paddles only, would people really switch from a manual?

Depends on your usage, PDK allows you to be faster on track, and gives you a few more options during the braking and cornering phases. I

Also who is saying that you can’t still retain your manual car? Maybe you can afford more than one car?

[MannyLon]

TDT said:

Depends on your usage, PDK allows you to be faster on track, and gives you a few more options during the braking and cornering phases. I

Also who is saying that you can’t still retain your manual car? Maybe you can afford more than one car?

Yes. If you can have both. I’ve had my fair share of flappy, but they were of an older generation. Don’t think I’d go back to them now. But agreed that that make for faster laps.

[hunter 66]

Yea TDT , but also nice for us poor folk living in London ...... manual. in traffic is so last year

[finmac]

MannyLon said:

If the RS has flappy paddles only, would people really switch from a manual?

For me - no chance

I would be amazed if there was a manual option given it’s meant to be Primarily a track car. Let’s not forget PDK makes things a lot “safer” for Porsche re over revd cars/engine blow up claims

Edited by finmac on Monday 31st August 09:34

[isaldiri]

TDT said:

MannyLon said:

If the RS has flappy paddles only, would people really switch from a manual?

Depends on your usage, PDK allows you to be faster on track, and gives you a few more options during the braking and cornering phases.

It's less dependent on usage imo but rather what each person values from a car. To some people gearbox is very very linked to the driving enjoyment they get, track inclusive. It's not simply a question of track a lot and you're ok with a dual clutch/flappy paddle I reckon.

Personally I'm not so fussed by the gearbox albeit on the road at normal speeds i agree the manual does give you something extra to think about so it tends to keep the silly speeds down... That said a car should be interesting enough to drive for me I don't get constantly needing to get to mental speeds anyway......

[Porsche911R]

PDK the wannabe option 😂

[rkwm1]

julian987R said:

£115K

Thats quite a bit over the GT4!

Is that including the WPor is that additional?

[rkwm1]

TDT said:

As I keep saying the most intriguing thing will be how they position this car.

It’s looks like quite serious effort, but how will they price it?
I don’t think Porsche will take previous gen car pricing structure (9x1) or used car prices into account… it’s a new cycle.

Vanilla 718 GT4 is £75k -420ps/414hp quoted.

New 992 GT3 has got be at least £125/130K… say 520ps quoted.

So theres a nice gap in there for new car purchase.

I’d be shocked if it has more than 450ps, unless it is super limited number plaqued car like the 997.2 RS 4.0.

I dont think it is relavent to the GT4RS where it "fits" in the range as such!

The days of the NA cayman are numbered, so they can build this to be the best that it can within certain financial parameters of what customers would be prepared to pay it.

With regards numbers even if it is not a numbered special edition, i cant see them build more than max 3000-4000 worldwide.

Has there ever been a numbered special edition cayman?

[rkwm1]

Spyder75 said:

Would it be madness to get out of my RS WP and into 4RS? (If the opportunity arose that is)

If you are offered a GT4RS i'd go for it. It will a completely unique car never to be reapeted by Porsche.

[Spyder75]

rkwm1 said:

If you are offered a GT4RS i'd go for it. It will a completely unique car never to be reapeted by Porsche.

Yeah that’s kinda what I am thinking. Outright speed on the track is not important to me and I would imagine the 4RS is not going to be slow.

It would be a very hard decision to make that’s for sure.

[Twinfan]

rkwm1 said:

If you are offered a GT4RS i'd go for it. It will a completely unique car never to be reapeted by Porsche.

I'd be very wary of using that criteria as justification for anything. U-turns at Porsche have been known e.g. manual gearboxes in GT3s and NA engines in regular Caysters.

They may do another round of NA Caysters before full electrification, it's not a given that they won't at this point.

[TDT]

rkwm1 said:

Spyder75 said:

Would it be madness to get out of my RS WP and into 4RS? (If the opportunity arose that is)

If you are offered a GT4RS i'd go for it. It will a completely unique car never to be reapeted by Porsche.

Each to their own.
I think I’m one of the biggest GT4 fans around and but if I had a 991 GT3 RS WP already… no kind of GT4, RS or not would grab my attention unless it looked like I was going say give the GT3 RS back and get a GT4 RS and get a big bag of cash back to me.

The engine alone is enough to end the debate really. Have a listen to some of the spy videos… there’s one where a 992 GT3 immediately follows a 718 RS mule. The difference in pedigree is significant, and that 992 GT3 engine uses the 991.3 RS/Speedster engine as it’s basis.

I mean if your just swapping in and out of cars because you like to change… fine.
But i’ll be totally floored if its any kind of debate from technical standpoint.