Coxster Snobbery
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To be honest if the whole 'couldnt afford a proper Porsche' argument were true, then every car out there bar a Bugatti Chiron is a cheap version of something that someone bought because they couldn't afford something more expensive, isn't it? A Porsche 911, pah, a poor rich mans car because you cannot afford to buy and run a Ferrari 488 A Ferrari 488, pah, couldn't afford a La Ferrari you cheapskate
As above, ignore example of utter cretins like on the social media posts, enjoy the car for what you bought it for.
As above, ignore example of utter cretins like on the social media posts, enjoy the car for what you bought it for.
WCZ said:
it's just something that's never going to go away because of non-car jeremy clarkson people as mentioned above
Very true, as an ex-350z owner I still have to bring the light to some people who still believe what Clarkson said about the 350z engine, and concluding it being French built. Most of what Clarkson says is for effect and entertainment, he doesn't review cars Us air cooled owners think all you kettle owners are tts regardless of which one you own
There are plenty of tts around, been given the wker sign many times whilst out in the 911, usually from someone in a white van. Really couldn't give a toss what other people think. I didn't buy it for them.
I think the Boxster/Cayman is the absolute cream of current crop. I absolutely love our Boxster Tiptronic, its a total blast, and apparently not only a hairdressers car, but automatic
Just enjoy your car, and find a decent indie, that one sounds like a crock.
There are plenty of tts around, been given the wker sign many times whilst out in the 911, usually from someone in a white van. Really couldn't give a toss what other people think. I didn't buy it for them.
I think the Boxster/Cayman is the absolute cream of current crop. I absolutely love our Boxster Tiptronic, its a total blast, and apparently not only a hairdressers car, but automatic
Just enjoy your car, and find a decent indie, that one sounds like a crock.
It's quite laughable really, just jealousy which seems to permeate through our culture in Britain for some reason.
I've had 5 x 911's incl GT3 & a Tutthill Resto-mod. All fantastic cars in their own way.
Had a 3.4S Boxster which was a brilliant drop-top sports car, the best out there for driving dynamics I could have purchased. If you want a convertible Porsche, it's a better drive than the 911 convertible by a country mile.
Have a Cayman R now which is probably the best Porsche for driving on UK roads that I've owned. Brilliant little machine, perfect size for our roads, easily quick enough, changes direction like a gnat and makes a great noise.
As said before, most of the comments will be from people who have no idea on what a sports car should be, including Mr J Clarkson
I've had 5 x 911's incl GT3 & a Tutthill Resto-mod. All fantastic cars in their own way.
Had a 3.4S Boxster which was a brilliant drop-top sports car, the best out there for driving dynamics I could have purchased. If you want a convertible Porsche, it's a better drive than the 911 convertible by a country mile.
Have a Cayman R now which is probably the best Porsche for driving on UK roads that I've owned. Brilliant little machine, perfect size for our roads, easily quick enough, changes direction like a gnat and makes a great noise.
As said before, most of the comments will be from people who have no idea on what a sports car should be, including Mr J Clarkson
I think most of the moronic comments are from folks who quite rightly consider the Boxster easier to drive than a 911 which it is.
Great car that the Boxster and Cayman are (clearly excepting the 4 cylinder hairdressers cars) they really are no substitute for a 911 imo.
Drive a Spyder or GT4 then a GT3 and this will be readily apparent.
Great car that the Boxster and Cayman are (clearly excepting the 4 cylinder hairdressers cars) they really are no substitute for a 911 imo.
Drive a Spyder or GT4 then a GT3 and this will be readily apparent.
I'm afraid that there is quite a lot of badge snobbery in most of the prestige makes. And that also causes a negative reaction from some owners of less prestigious brands. And certainly some 911 owners look down on Cayster owners (and some of us Cayster owners look DOWN on 911 owners who buy the car for the image not the dynamics)
12 cylinder Ferrari owners used to look down on any Ferrari that didn't have 12 cylinders (mind you owners of the Dino 246 - which wasn't even a Ferrari have had the last laugh).
If you want to really get away from it get an innocuous looking hot hatch - though if it's a Kia, some idiots will look down on that.
12 cylinder Ferrari owners used to look down on any Ferrari that didn't have 12 cylinders (mind you owners of the Dino 246 - which wasn't even a Ferrari have had the last laugh).
If you want to really get away from it get an innocuous looking hot hatch - though if it's a Kia, some idiots will look down on that.
av185 said:
I think most of the moronic comments are from folks who quite rightly consider the Boxster easier to drive than a 911 which it is.
Great car that the Boxster and Cayman are (clearly excepting the 4 cylinder hairdressers cars) they really are no substitute for a 911 imo.
Drive a Spyder or GT4 then a GT3 and this will be readily apparent.
You could argue that any 911 that is not a GT model is also a "hairdressers car"Great car that the Boxster and Cayman are (clearly excepting the 4 cylinder hairdressers cars) they really are no substitute for a 911 imo.
Drive a Spyder or GT4 then a GT3 and this will be readily apparent.
It's now gone, but I owned a bottom budget 986 for a few years. A wise fellow owner told me I would run into 2 other types of Porsche owner.
The first - "couldn't afford a 911? Shame.."
This guy probably owns a shaggged out 996 cabrio with a beige interior, tiptronic box and replica 19inch turbo wheels. Or a leaky Super Carerra with 170bhp on a good day.
The second owner, "wow cool boxster, can't believe you bought it for so little, I used to have one like that, such a good drive" etc etc.
This guy may own a Carerra GT or races a vintage race car etc.
It was entirely true. People who actually know what they what they are talking about, know they are fantastic cars. Don't worry about it. And find a better garage, there's plenty about!
The first - "couldn't afford a 911? Shame.."
This guy probably owns a shaggged out 996 cabrio with a beige interior, tiptronic box and replica 19inch turbo wheels. Or a leaky Super Carerra with 170bhp on a good day.
The second owner, "wow cool boxster, can't believe you bought it for so little, I used to have one like that, such a good drive" etc etc.
This guy may own a Carerra GT or races a vintage race car etc.
It was entirely true. People who actually know what they what they are talking about, know they are fantastic cars. Don't worry about it. And find a better garage, there's plenty about!
This does exist, but it usually comes from knobs who have no clue about driving or sports cars.
I love my CGTS, it looks great, sounds magnificent and handles superbly-fab interior and ambience too.
I chose it over a 2S, 4S and turbo because of the way it drove, it’s a better road car than all of them.
And those knobs, I could buy and sell them three times over most of the time, so I just laugh at their stupidity.
Enjoy your great car OP, that’s all that matters!👍
I love my CGTS, it looks great, sounds magnificent and handles superbly-fab interior and ambience too.
I chose it over a 2S, 4S and turbo because of the way it drove, it’s a better road car than all of them.
And those knobs, I could buy and sell them three times over most of the time, so I just laugh at their stupidity.
Enjoy your great car OP, that’s all that matters!👍
Batlamb said:
Thanking you for the recommendations. I am in the Gatwick area. There are a few Indies in the area which one of them is one of the crowd I was talking about. I think I am going to try Precision Porsche in Bluebell Railway next.
I'm north of the M25, so can't help although had heard some good things about Precision Porsche.Sure others will be able to recommend an indie.
I sold my 911 and bought a Boxster because it is more fun to drive! That always confuses the snobs.
Best ignored and enjoy your Boxster, they are brilliant Porsches and great value. Amazing how many Pearl's of wisdom tell you they will explode as they jump into their MX5's because they deep down bottled Porsche ownership.
An arse for every seat as someone once said. Do what makes YOU happy and ignore others, especially the negative ones.
Best ignored and enjoy your Boxster, they are brilliant Porsches and great value. Amazing how many Pearl's of wisdom tell you they will explode as they jump into their MX5's because they deep down bottled Porsche ownership.
An arse for every seat as someone once said. Do what makes YOU happy and ignore others, especially the negative ones.
M3333 said:
I sold my 911 and bought a Boxster because it is more fun to drive! That always confuses the snobs.
Best ignored and enjoy your Boxster, they are brilliant Porsches and great value. Amazing how many Pearl's of wisdom tell you they will explode as they jump into their MX5's because they deep down bottled Porsche ownership.
An arse for every seat as someone once said. Do what makes YOU happy and ignore others, especially the negative ones.
I also traded my 911 for a Cayman, which was much more fun to drive. To the OP, enjoy your Boxster!Best ignored and enjoy your Boxster, they are brilliant Porsches and great value. Amazing how many Pearl's of wisdom tell you they will explode as they jump into their MX5's because they deep down bottled Porsche ownership.
An arse for every seat as someone once said. Do what makes YOU happy and ignore others, especially the negative ones.
I’ve had a bit with the Spyder but never really bothered by it. Like others have said, the comments have mainly come from people who don’t even own a very nice car. Water off a ducks back.
Coming back on the ferry once, a group of locals had been away on a track day, I was coming back from Le Mans 24. All rich people with exotic machinery. Everyone having a look at the cars. Some come up asking which model it was and I say Boxster Spyder and there’s this sort of expression and a little muttered ‘oh a boxster’.
We were joined by a chap who’s well respected for his work on Porsche’s and these people listen to his every word. I can hear them chatting to him and someone chucks in ‘but it’s a boxster’, and he goes ‘i love these, absolutely fantastic cars, great to drive and the styling’ (he genuinely does love the Spyder)... and like a switch, these people suddenly turned into fawning fans of the car, with nods of approval and going back in for a look. How odd!
Going off for the ‘real porsche’ thing, I’ve always been curious about those who chuck an M3 or M5 badge on what is very clearly not one of those models. At best, some M-sport model. I just think that those who think it is the real deal obviously don’t care that much or appreciate the difference anyway and those who do know are even less impressed. So who is it meant to impress?
Coming back on the ferry once, a group of locals had been away on a track day, I was coming back from Le Mans 24. All rich people with exotic machinery. Everyone having a look at the cars. Some come up asking which model it was and I say Boxster Spyder and there’s this sort of expression and a little muttered ‘oh a boxster’.
We were joined by a chap who’s well respected for his work on Porsche’s and these people listen to his every word. I can hear them chatting to him and someone chucks in ‘but it’s a boxster’, and he goes ‘i love these, absolutely fantastic cars, great to drive and the styling’ (he genuinely does love the Spyder)... and like a switch, these people suddenly turned into fawning fans of the car, with nods of approval and going back in for a look. How odd!
Going off for the ‘real porsche’ thing, I’ve always been curious about those who chuck an M3 or M5 badge on what is very clearly not one of those models. At best, some M-sport model. I just think that those who think it is the real deal obviously don’t care that much or appreciate the difference anyway and those who do know are even less impressed. So who is it meant to impress?
DS240 said:
I’ve had a bit with the Spyder but never really bothered by it. Like others have said, the comments have mainly come from people who don’t even own a very nice car. Water off a ducks back.
Coming back on the ferry once, a group of locals had been away on a track day, I was coming back from Le Mans 24. All rich people with exotic machinery. Everyone having a look at the cars. Some come up asking which model it was and I say Boxster Spyder and there’s this sort of expression and a little muttered ‘oh a boxster’.
We were joined by a chap who’s well respected for his work on Porsche’s and these people listen to his every word. I can hear them chatting to him and someone chucks in ‘but it’s a boxster’, and he goes ‘i love these, absolutely fantastic cars, great to drive and the styling’ (he genuinely does love the Spyder)... and like a switch, these people suddenly turned into fawning fans of the car, with nods of approval and going back in for a look. How odd!
Going off for the ‘real porsche’ thing, I’ve always been curious about those who chuck an M3 or M5 badge on what is very clearly not one of those models. At best, some M-sport model. I just think that those who think it is the real deal obviously don’t care that much or appreciate the difference anyway and those who do know are even less impressed. So who is it meant to impress?
That's the appeal to me about my Spyder - very understated 'just another Boxster' except for the "ASBO" exhaust! Coming back on the ferry once, a group of locals had been away on a track day, I was coming back from Le Mans 24. All rich people with exotic machinery. Everyone having a look at the cars. Some come up asking which model it was and I say Boxster Spyder and there’s this sort of expression and a little muttered ‘oh a boxster’.
We were joined by a chap who’s well respected for his work on Porsche’s and these people listen to his every word. I can hear them chatting to him and someone chucks in ‘but it’s a boxster’, and he goes ‘i love these, absolutely fantastic cars, great to drive and the styling’ (he genuinely does love the Spyder)... and like a switch, these people suddenly turned into fawning fans of the car, with nods of approval and going back in for a look. How odd!
Going off for the ‘real porsche’ thing, I’ve always been curious about those who chuck an M3 or M5 badge on what is very clearly not one of those models. At best, some M-sport model. I just think that those who think it is the real deal obviously don’t care that much or appreciate the difference anyway and those who do know are even less impressed. So who is it meant to impress?
In 2011 I bought a Boxster S and ran it as my daily for 2 years, 45k miles. then sold it. In 2015 I bought a Boxster 3.8 Spyder which I still have. On numerous occasions, in both cars, I have had the 'can't afford a proper porsche ' line, or something similar. Or 'you should ve got an MR2 its basically the same' and of course all the 'hairdresser' and 'mid life crisis' quips. Mainly from people who haven't got a porsche and are unlikely to ever have one. So I put that down to a bit of jealousy and I usually just smile. But also sometimes from blokes in a 911, and then it's mainly drivers of the latest model GT3RS or other limited run latest must have special edition. To these people I don't just smile, I dream of running them thru with a sabre.
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