Coxster Snobbery
Discussion
I bought a 986 Boxster (98 2.5, manual, Silver/Savannah) a couple of months ago, and love it. I was after a fun car and a colleague suggested checking these out. It puts a smile on my face every time I drive it, and I enjoy the fettling a 20yo car needs.
I have found though, that very few other Porsche owners acknowledge me - I find I generally get a nod or a wave from other top-down drivers; minis, beetles etc, but even most other Boxster drivers tend to ignore the wave.
I have found though, that very few other Porsche owners acknowledge me - I find I generally get a nod or a wave from other top-down drivers; minis, beetles etc, but even most other Boxster drivers tend to ignore the wave.
Don't understand why people get irked by the comments.
Own a Cayman/Boxster - someone will ask why you didnt get a 911
Own a 911 - someone will ask why you didn't get the Turbo
Own a Turbo - someone will ask why it's not the Turbo S / GT2 / GT3 blah blah.
Buy the car *you* want. There's Porsche owners that 'only' own a Boxster but speak to them and they have 911's in the garage too.
It doesn't really matter the status of the person making the comment, or the car they drive. A lot of people out there will belittle people for any reason they can think of.
Own a Cayman/Boxster - someone will ask why you didnt get a 911
Own a 911 - someone will ask why you didn't get the Turbo
Own a Turbo - someone will ask why it's not the Turbo S / GT2 / GT3 blah blah.
Buy the car *you* want. There's Porsche owners that 'only' own a Boxster but speak to them and they have 911's in the garage too.
It doesn't really matter the status of the person making the comment, or the car they drive. A lot of people out there will belittle people for any reason they can think of.
Have to agree with SV_WDC. I've never lusted after a 911 and when I bought my Cayman it's because that's the model I actually wanted. So far it's been a real joy to drive and has ticked every box that I made when drawing up a llist of what I wanted from my next car.
If someone wants to think I bought a Cayman because I couldn't afford a 911, they're welcome to think that. If someone else thinks I bought a Cayman to pose in, then they're welcome to think that too. Personally, I don't give a monkey's unwashed armpit about what anyone else thinks of my car choice as they have no idea what else I have in the garage, if anything.
If someone wants to think I bought a Cayman because I couldn't afford a 911, they're welcome to think that. If someone else thinks I bought a Cayman to pose in, then they're welcome to think that too. Personally, I don't give a monkey's unwashed armpit about what anyone else thinks of my car choice as they have no idea what else I have in the garage, if anything.
DIW35 said:
Have to agree with SV_WDC. I've never lusted after a 911 and when I bought my Cayman it's because that's the model I actually wanted. So far it's been a real joy to drive and has ticked every box that I made when drawing up a llist of what I wanted from my next car.
If someone wants to think I bought a Cayman because I couldn't afford a 911, they're welcome to think that. If someone else thinks I bought a Cayman to pose in, then they're welcome to think that too. Personally, I don't give a monkey's unwashed armpit about what anyone else thinks of my car choice as they have no idea what else I have in the garage, if anything.
While I couldn't agree more - but there can be some pleasure to be gained for being a member of a "club" too - whether formal or informal. Regrettably, for me, there isn't really any such pleasure with a Porsche. In the final analysis if a Cayman or 911 or even Porsche SUV was the CAR I really wanted, I'd get it anyway - but the "club" thing does detract from the experience imo.If someone wants to think I bought a Cayman because I couldn't afford a 911, they're welcome to think that. If someone else thinks I bought a Cayman to pose in, then they're welcome to think that too. Personally, I don't give a monkey's unwashed armpit about what anyone else thinks of my car choice as they have no idea what else I have in the garage, if anything.
Edited by bcr5784 on Wednesday 30th October 12:57
Batlamb said:
Hello
I just wanted to get some opinions from Boxster/Cayman owners.
I have owned my Boxster for 6 months and what I am finding is quite a lot of snobbery towards Boxster/Cayman owners and I just wanted to know if I was the only person to find this. The worst I have had so far was an Indi garage who did a really bad service and could not give a **** about my custom. At the time I did put it down to having a Boxster as the Indi seemed more bothered about the GT3s they were working on (To be fair my friend took his 997 C4s to the same garage and they did not give two hoots about him either). But after looking at a Facebook page I saw the post below and was thinking what the **** as some people are just nasty.
Ask him how many Porsche’s he owns... wI just wanted to get some opinions from Boxster/Cayman owners.
I have owned my Boxster for 6 months and what I am finding is quite a lot of snobbery towards Boxster/Cayman owners and I just wanted to know if I was the only person to find this. The worst I have had so far was an Indi garage who did a really bad service and could not give a **** about my custom. At the time I did put it down to having a Boxster as the Indi seemed more bothered about the GT3s they were working on (To be fair my friend took his 997 C4s to the same garage and they did not give two hoots about him either). But after looking at a Facebook page I saw the post below and was thinking what the **** as some people are just nasty.
ker. There is snobbery but needlessly. I know some Boxtsters that will thrash a 911. Lots of Porsche Owners Club UK management have Boxter or Cayman. I’m considering changing my 911 for a Cayman
Sure lots have already said, if they don’t treat your car with respect, f
k them off pronto. I had a Boxster in the early years. Sold it and got the more expensive SL55 soon after that launched around 2002 but often missed the grip and precision of the Boxster.
I think the Boxster back then was a truly brilliant car ... and is even more brilliant today.
I often heard the "you bought a Boxster because you couldn't afford a 911" comment.
But it never bothered me.
Because in my case that was absolutely true!
When you are truly at peace with yourself, comments like that don't stress you out. Whether they are true or not.
I'd bet a kit-kat that a great many other people other than just me - especially men - bought a Boxster on the grounds of cost rather than a 911. I know 2 others for sure as they have both told me as much.
Is there really any shame in buying a car you can afford and not buying the more expensive car, which the manufacturer has placed higher up the pecking order ... if you can't afford it?! Of course not.
I bet there are people out there that look at 911 drivers and think "oh you got the poor man's McLaren" .... you have to be significantly more wealthy to properly afford to buy and run a McLaren. It's not only purchase price and servicing costs, but also the cost of practicality. Only the really rich can afford to have such an expensive car as a toy ... whereas many 911 drivers do indeed spend a very large wad on their car but then need it to be the all and everything for their driving needs. Not nearly the same for McLaren owners.
And of course a McLaren is probably just a poor man's Koenigsegg ...
... which is a poor man's Bugatti ...
... which is a poor man's £100m house in Eaton Square ...
... which is a poor man's presidential palace in Moscow ...
Except for one person, we are all someone else's "poor man"!
And so whatever. Get over it. If you didn't buy the car you most wanted because you couldn't afford it and someone feels the need to point that out, tell them you already know.
I think the Boxster back then was a truly brilliant car ... and is even more brilliant today.
I often heard the "you bought a Boxster because you couldn't afford a 911" comment.
But it never bothered me.
Because in my case that was absolutely true!
When you are truly at peace with yourself, comments like that don't stress you out. Whether they are true or not.
I'd bet a kit-kat that a great many other people other than just me - especially men - bought a Boxster on the grounds of cost rather than a 911. I know 2 others for sure as they have both told me as much.
Is there really any shame in buying a car you can afford and not buying the more expensive car, which the manufacturer has placed higher up the pecking order ... if you can't afford it?! Of course not.
I bet there are people out there that look at 911 drivers and think "oh you got the poor man's McLaren" .... you have to be significantly more wealthy to properly afford to buy and run a McLaren. It's not only purchase price and servicing costs, but also the cost of practicality. Only the really rich can afford to have such an expensive car as a toy ... whereas many 911 drivers do indeed spend a very large wad on their car but then need it to be the all and everything for their driving needs. Not nearly the same for McLaren owners.
And of course a McLaren is probably just a poor man's Koenigsegg ...
... which is a poor man's Bugatti ...
... which is a poor man's £100m house in Eaton Square ...
... which is a poor man's presidential palace in Moscow ...
Except for one person, we are all someone else's "poor man"!
And so whatever. Get over it. If you didn't buy the car you most wanted because you couldn't afford it and someone feels the need to point that out, tell them you already know.
some bloke said:
I bought a 986 Boxster (98 2.5, manual, Silver/Savannah) a couple of months ago, and love it. I was after a fun car and a colleague suggested checking these out. It puts a smile on my face every time I drive it, and I enjoy the fettling a 20yo car needs.
I have found though, that very few other Porsche owners acknowledge me - I find I generally get a nod or a wave from other top-down drivers; minis, beetles etc, but even most other Boxster drivers tend to ignore the wave.
It's not the car that's the issue!I have found though, that very few other Porsche owners acknowledge me - I find I generally get a nod or a wave from other top-down drivers; minis, beetles etc, but even most other Boxster drivers tend to ignore the wave.
You're waving at random people while driving your car with the top down? If you waved at me, regardless of the car you were driving, I would wonder if I knew you and when I realise that I don't, I would wonder what is wrong with you.
Who the hell waves a random strangers just because they are driving a car with the top down? I know my son likes to wave at people in buses and they wave back. Especially the ones in the open top tour buses around London. But my son is 4. I'm assuming you're a little older.
Ps. I must admit, I'm being slightly presumptuous here and assuming you're not a fit young thang. Cos then that changes everything
We did our usual 2 week tour around the mountains of europe this July with another couple. They were amazed (and jealous :-)) of the amount of attention our lovely 981 Cayman S got when travelling through villages. You don't need to own a 911 (have had a couple).
But then they were in a 986.
But then they were in a 986.
Snobbery is a result of a lack of self-confidence. People with an inferiority complex think (often accurately) that other people don't respect them. So they try to bolster their image with props like expensive cars, watches, houses etc, thinking this will earn them respect. It doesn't - a dick in a Ferrari is still a dick.
Such people are desperately envious of others who generate respect simply because they're decent people, and therefore feel the need to put them down in any way they can. Because they value themselves by what they own they think everyone feels the same, and that by disparaging people's material possessions they will make them look like losers.
People who are comfortable with themselves don't need props to impress others. If they want a 911 and can afford it they'll drive one for that reason, but even if they considered a Boxster to be inferior they would never dream of saying so because they don't need to make themselves feel better at other people's expense.
Such people are desperately envious of others who generate respect simply because they're decent people, and therefore feel the need to put them down in any way they can. Because they value themselves by what they own they think everyone feels the same, and that by disparaging people's material possessions they will make them look like losers.
People who are comfortable with themselves don't need props to impress others. If they want a 911 and can afford it they'll drive one for that reason, but even if they considered a Boxster to be inferior they would never dream of saying so because they don't need to make themselves feel better at other people's expense.
high76 said:
Boxter/Cayman owners have it easy. Imagine what hell Macan owners go through:
“Go get a REAL Porsche!”
(Gets into a Cayenne)
I had that with the first Macan but so far not with the current one. Never had any negative comments on the Cayman (which was a first choice vs a 911 and is probably a keeper its so good) but did get a few on my old 987 Boxster, mainly the hairdresser nonsense from kids on their push bikes.“Go get a REAL Porsche!”
(Gets into a Cayenne)
Anyone can hustle a 911 fast down a B road but doing it in a Macan requires a much higher skill set (quote from an instructor at the PEC Silverstone while I was hustling a Macan GTS round the handling circuit).
Miopyk said:
I had that with the first Macan but so far not with the current one. Never had any negative comments on the Cayman (which was a first choice vs a 911 and is probably a keeper its so good) but did get a few on my old 987 Boxster, mainly the hairdresser nonsense from kids on their push bikes.
Anyone can hustle a 911 fast down a B road but doing it in a Macan requires a much higher skill set (quote from an instructor at the PEC Silverstone while I was hustling a Macan GTS round the handling circuit).
Don't wish to pour cold water on your experience - but when I was last on a hovercraft the instructor's repeated word was "awesome" - ir was something of an exaggeration!Anyone can hustle a 911 fast down a B road but doing it in a Macan requires a much higher skill set (quote from an instructor at the PEC Silverstone while I was hustling a Macan GTS round the handling circuit).
bcr5784 said:
Don't wish to pour cold water on your experience - but when I was last on a hovercraft the instructor's repeated word was "awesome" - ir was something of an exaggeration!
I didn't say he said I was any good at it but having driven both down the same B road I do know which one requires more attention to maintain progress.had a 987.2 2.9 and loved it but felt the pull (push) to own a 911. Ego and a few sarky comments mostly from my brother (volvo 4x4 driver) got me into a 997.2. I enjoyed it but it actually wasn't that much better. Faster yes but not not a million miles away. Didn't help that from the drivers seat it didn't look the much different
6 month in and it was stolen from outside of the house when they found the spare keys during a burglary. With the insurance money I got right back into a 987.2 S with PDK. As fast as the 997.2 and much more suited to a slow crawl around the m25
6 month in and it was stolen from outside of the house when they found the spare keys during a burglary. With the insurance money I got right back into a 987.2 S with PDK. As fast as the 997.2 and much more suited to a slow crawl around the m25
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