Cayman 982 GTS 4.0 appears in German insurance website!

[TDT]

dreamcar said:

GT4P said:

They may produce both f4 Gts and f6 Gts for different markets! I believe I read somewhere the f4 is popular in the Chinese market!

I believe cars above 2 litres are taxed heavily in China

All correct

[Taffy66]

TDT said:

All correct

This nothing new Tyrone..You're probably to young to remember the Ferraris from the 1980s which had a small capacity turbo specifically for the Italian market of the time which taxed cars over 2L heavily..I don't remember the exact details but it was called the 208GTB IIRC.

[Cheib]

It’ll ve the only naturally aspirated Porsche make that most people can buy.....be a bug success. Surely it’ll have to be released in 992 as well ?
Now if they release a 992 T with the GT4 engine that would be an interesting car.

[Twinfan]

It depends if they've designed the engine to fit in a 992 chassis. Spinning it around can cause issues, which is why the GT3 engine can't be used in a Cayman.

I wouldn't be surprised if it never makes it into a 992. It doesn't really fit the ethos of the rest of the car - modern, digital etc.

[Cheib]

Twinfan said:

It depends if they've designed the engine to fit in a 992 chassis. Spinning it around can cause issues, which is why the GT3 engine can't be used in a Cayman.

I wouldn't be surprised if it never makes it into a 992. It doesn't really fit the ethos of the rest of the car - modern, digital etc.

They used a 911 Carrera engine in the previous generation 981 GT4/Spyder. Maybe something specific to the GT3 engine that prevented it....although I don’t personally think that was ever that likely.

[Twinfan]

It was the location of ancillaries I think.

It'll be interesting to see what Porsche have planned.

[ags11]

I think l recall reading a quote somewhere from a Porsche bigwig that the 4 NA won't go in the 992.
Some technical reason that l can't recall either. Who knows though. It'd certainly be a desirable car.

[Twinfan]

I'm not sure it would be a good thing - it would be substantially down on torque compared to the F6Ts so I'm not surprised Porsche don't think it's a good idea.

Making the Cayster the only non-GT NA Porsche is an interesting choice, but I guess the new engine needs paying for.

[dreamcar]

anonymous said:

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992 will have its own special N/A engine when the GT3 comes out. I don’t see any advantage in redesigning the 4.0 litre engine for the 992 when unlike the Caysters the range already has fine (if turbocharged) engines.

[browngt3]

Taffy66 said:

TDT said:

All correct

This nothing new Tyrone..You're probably to young to remember the Ferraris from the 1980s which had a small capacity turbo specifically for the Italian market of the time which taxed cars over 2L heavily..I don't remember the exact details but it was called the 208GTB IIRC.

Correct.

Interesting fact, I didn't know until recently there was a 208 GT4 introduced in 1975. It was just a normally aspirated 2 litre. They only made 840 and I can't say I've ever seen one advertised.

The 208GTB/328 turbo continued in production until 1989. Not sure if that was also the end of the double tax rate.

Apologies for thread deviation!

[Porsche911R]

TDT said:

I agree here, that the positioning is going to be strange, given small difference in HP. It's the going to be purely down to chassis and handling dynamics.... 80% of people won't be able to tell the difference or even care.
I guess its the additional profit that can be extracted from the remain 20% in the GT car market then.

Interesting times...as we've seem to have just equinoxed peak drivers car.

You also can change a geo on a standard car for a very focused road car without new parts, on the new 718 GT4 and Spyder for track world you still need to buy more adjustable parts, some thing 90% owners don’t do as they own life style cars.

Add in PDK the gearbox of choice in the real world, I still don’t see why you need a Spyder over this new model.
The cars need PDK anyway to get shorter ratio's.

All sounds too good to be true for a daily esp with my Choice of heated folding buckets. And fit the new jcr exhaust.
Also better tyres and sizes for road use.

Where do I sign.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 15th December 11:24

[130R]

I'm interested in this if I could get ideal spec for < 75K. I would want PDK not manual though. Not sure that's going to be possible for Q2 next year when I am looking to change.

[Taffy66]

This sounds like a very interesting car and more so than the 992..The rear seats of the 992 are totally unusable for anyone over 5ft so a two seater makes more sense for most..I can see it with PCCBs, Folding buckets and PDK and if it costs about £70K in that spec it'll be a great Porsche IMO..

[Romo]

^ Could be.

But only when steering feel is on par 718GT4


The difference 981 GTS vs 981 GT4 on steering feel / behavior was immense.

How this develops has to be seen.

[Cheib]

anonymous said:

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Hadn’t really thought about the torque issue....but then that’s one of the hoys of a NASP that enjoys being revved out

I guess it will be interesting to see how the manual 992 is received...if people like that maybe they’ll think about the 4.0 in the 992.

[dreamcar]

However good the 718 GTS 4.0 is I don’t think it is worth twice the likely trade in allowance for our 981 GTS or sound as good, although infinitely better than the bucket of rusty bolts in the F4 GTS.

[dreamcar]

According to a post in the usually well informed German based Rennteam.com the current F4 718 GTS is no longer factory orderable in Germany and dealers are selling off their stock and demonstrators at increasingly discounted prices....

[FrankCayman]

I've heard this 6 cycle GTS will be released at the same time as ANOTHER facelift for the 718 range in the summer....which will have update tech in the dash etc (I class the 718 as a facelift of the 981, so this will be facelift 3)