718 GTS 4.0…

[Jimbo_vx]

bennno said:

Being advised these will be fairly restricted supply, not many coming in, perhaps 250 in total.....

So getting one wont be a lot easier than a GT4 or Spyder.

Just been told 200 (boxsters and caymans, so 100 or each?)

[GT4P]

Jimbo_vx said:

bennno said:

Being advised these will be fairly restricted supply, not many coming in, perhaps 250 in total.....

So getting one wont be a lot easier than a GT4 or Spyder.

Just been told 200 (boxsters and caymans, so 100 or each?)

Firstly OPCs don't really know, secondly if correct that could be for this model year ie up to July/August with more arriving after summer shut down also could be manual only and not including the arrival of pdk!
IMHO I think you will see at least 500 of each over 2020/1

[GT98]

Jimbo_vx said:

Just been told 200 (boxsters and caymans, so 100 or each?)

The GTS share production with the GT4 / Spyder out of the same factory which has a very limited capacity.
If a total of only 200 cars are due I’d be surprised as that will make them rarer than the GT4/Spyder but that may limit even further production runs of GT4/Spyder as it’s already at capacity.
Any one else have any production figures estimates on the GTS they can share.

[JasonSteel]

anonymous said:

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that's how i read it. i.e. default configuration is Sport PASM with 20mm drop but you can have a 'comfort spec' PASM with 10mm drop at no cost.

[JasonSteel]

would have preferred some styling changes to that front splitter which i've never really liked but this is a great addition for sure.

not a great 0-60 though considering the engine? it's not that much of an improvement even over a 981GTS...

[WCZ]

Onetrackmind said:

Does this mean a T version is in the wings?

? Just don’t spec pcm then change the door pulls for fabric ones.

[Twinfan]

GT98 said:

The GTS share production with the GT4 / Spyder out of the same factory which has a very limited capacity.
If a total of only 200 cars are due I’d be surprised as that will make them rarer than the GT4/Spyder but that may limit even further production runs of GT4/Spyder as it’s already at capacity.
Any one else have any production figures estimates on the GTS they can share.

The Boxster, Spyder and all 911s are built at Stuttgart. All Caymans are built at Osnabruck, I'm not sure what else? So there are two factories to consider, not just one.

These new cars aren't listed as limited production so I can't see them being produced at levels massively less than the GT4/Spyder.

[jimmy p]

The biggest thing for me personally is that it gives a lot of us a future car hopefully.
After owning numerous boxsters including 981's and 2 x boxster spyders I thought my future cars would have to be from a different brand. I tried a 718 4 pot out and as good as the car handled and performed I could not live with the sound. The same as most who have kept hold of their 987's or 981's. This means we can now drive Porsche sports cars for several more years. A great result. I'm sure there will be limited numbers at launch but surely this will now be the main stay product pending the EV caysters in a few years. Pretty sure a pdk variant will be out too by MY 2021 I.e summer 2020 onwards.

[JayK12]

Twinfan said:

GT98 said:

The GTS share production with the GT4 / Spyder out of the same factory which has a very limited capacity.
If a total of only 200 cars are due I’d be surprised as that will make them rarer than the GT4/Spyder but that may limit even further production runs of GT4/Spyder as it’s already at capacity.
Any one else have any production figures estimates on the GTS they can share.

The Boxster, Spyder and all 911s are built at Stuttgart. All Caymans are built at Osnabruck, I'm not sure what else? So there are two factories to consider, not just one.

These new cars aren't listed as limited production so I can't see them being produced at levels massively less than the GT4/Spyder.

Is that a recent change? 2 years ago when I was in Stuttgart 718' Cayman's were coming down the line.

[Twinfan]

JayK12 said:

Is that a recent change? 2 years ago when I was in Stuttgart 718' Cayman's were coming down the line.

When the 718 was launched they were all produced at Stuttgart, but very soon after they switched the Cayman back to Osnabruck which is where the 981 Caymans were built. I'm not sure why they got their production estimates wrong and had to switch back.

[Cheib]

Can’t help thinking the restricted colour choice on GT4/Spyder and the decision to make more colours available for the GTS including Python Green is an attempt by Porsche to drive buyers to the GTS so taking some pressure off demand for the GT cars. Definitely not a coincidence that these cars have been launched in what is effectively Viper Green which is very popular on GT cars.

250 cars must be initial allocation...that’s 6 or 7 cars per OPC for the whole year.

[gpgts]

TDT said:

olv said:

ClubsportStr said:

Does this now make the 4 cylinder GTS a future classic due to limited numbers ? Does any body know how many were produced?

No.

They should drop the silly 718 moniker for the 6 Cylinder cars... or just drop it in full.

Agree - has no link to the 6 Cylinder

[GT4P]

JasonSteel said:

it's not that much of an improvement even over a 981GTS...

Better EPS for starters, the 981/718 has never interested me bar gt4/spyder, this car is a came changer IMHO .Spiritual successor to the 987.2.
As for the price some mentioned being expensive, not really you can get a decent spec. for under £70k a 987.2cr was nearly £60k in 2011!

[Leftfootwonder]

jimmy p said:

The biggest thing for me personally is that it gives a lot of us a future car hopefully.
After owning numerous boxsters including 981's and 2 x boxster spyders I thought my future cars would have to be from a different brand. I tried a 718 4 pot out and as good as the car handled and performed I could not live with the sound. The same as most who have kept hold of their 987's or 981's. This means we can now drive Porsche sports cars for several more years. A great result. I'm sure there will be limited numbers at launch but surely this will now be the main stay product pending the EV caysters in a few years. Pretty sure a pdk variant will be out too by MY 2021 I.e summer 2020 onwards.

Totally agree. I am not in the market for a new one, but would certainly have one in a few years time. I've always preferred the Cayman, it's the thinking man's Porsche and a car for drivers, not posers, but the Boxster is now a very attractive car...NC500 on a sunny day, roof down.....certainly appealing.

[JayK12]

GT4P said:

JasonSteel said:

it's not that much of an improvement even over a 981GTS...

Better EPS for starters, the 981/718 has never interested me bar gt4/spyder, this car is a came changer IMHO .Spiritual successor to the 987.2.
As for the price some mentioned being expensive, not really you can get a decent spec. for under £70k a 987.2cr was nearly £60k in 2011!

Yeah but for people who already have a 981 GTS now its a 30K upgrade, some not an easy decision. If I still had my 981 GTS i wouldn't upgrade to a 718 GTS just doesn't give enough for 30K change.

[GT98]

Cheib said:

Can’t help thinking the restricted colour choice on GT4/Spyder and the decision to make more colours available for the GTS including Python Green is an attempt by Porsche to drive buyers to the GTS so taking some pressure off demand for the GT cars. Definitely not a coincidence that these cars have been launched in what is effectively Viper Green which is very popular on GT cars.

250 cars must be initial allocation...that’s 6 or 7 cars per OPC for the whole year.

Think your right the Spyder has no direct competition so they spotted a gap in the market. Clever! It seems they playing the limit run game very well if only 250 cars on first release.

[JayK12]

GT98 said:

Cheib said:

Can’t help thinking the restricted colour choice on GT4/Spyder and the decision to make more colours available for the GTS including Python Green is an attempt by Porsche to drive buyers to the GTS so taking some pressure off demand for the GT cars. Definitely not a coincidence that these cars have been launched in what is effectively Viper Green which is very popular on GT cars.

250 cars must be initial allocation...that’s 6 or 7 cars per OPC for the whole year.

Think your right the Spyder has no direct competition so they spotted a gap in the market. Clever! It seems they playing the limit run game very well if only 250 cars on first release.

I think both of these cars have the market cornered. If your after a new rwd 2 seater mid engine NA sports car.......there is no where else to go......

[JasonSteel]

GT4P said:

JasonSteel said:

it's not that much of an improvement even over a 981GTS...

Better EPS for starters, the 981/718 has never interested me bar gt4/spyder, this car is a came changer IMHO .Spiritual successor to the 987.2.
As for the price some mentioned being expensive, not really you can get a decent spec. for under £70k a 987.2cr was nearly £60k in 2011!

i was referring to the 0-60 time. 4.5 seconds from the GT derived 4L F6 is about the same as the 981GTS

[JayK12]

JasonSteel said:

GT4P said:

JasonSteel said:

it's not that much of an improvement even over a 981GTS...

Better EPS for starters, the 981/718 has never interested me bar gt4/spyder, this car is a came changer IMHO .Spiritual successor to the 987.2.
As for the price some mentioned being expensive, not really you can get a decent spec. for under £70k a 987.2cr was nearly £60k in 2011!

i was referring to the 0-60 time. 4.5 seconds from the GT derived 4L F6 is about the same as the 981GTS

Think the 718 GTS is 30kg heavier than the 981.

[GT4P]

JayK12 said:

Yeah but for people who already have a 981 GTS now its a 30K upgrade, some not an easy decision. If I still had my 981 GTS i wouldn't upgrade to a 718 GTS just doesn't give enough for 30K change.

To somewhat I would agree on the cost side but this is nothing new when I traded from 5 year old 986.2S to new 987.1cs in 2009 it cost me £25k and that was with a 17% discount on the Cayman and then it cost me £20k from a nearly 3 year old 987.1cs to a new heavily discounted(17%) 987.2 spyder! But since then I have been lucky not to loose my shirt and think the 718/6 car is a car that will have a low depreciation curve as last of the flat6 na engine