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px1980 said:
Congratulations & enjoy!
I'm in exactly the same situation (fingers crossed), ordered early Jan, built 20 March, dealer just asked for the full payment this morning. So should be any moment now
Sorry if this is naive question from someone who is waiting (an extremely long time) for his first new Porsche, but why would a dealer expect to be paid before the car is available for collection? I would expect to see it, check it meets my spec, is undamaged, and has been properly prepared. I’ve had too many bad experiences with other new cars that are crap from the factory, or had a ‘small incident’ at the port. I have seen a couple of posts from customers who’ve paid for their car only to be told it is one of the ones with duff con-rods. I was scratching my head as to how this could have happened. Perhaps I’m a traditionalist, but I would want to swap the readies for the keys - cleared funds by a debit card usually does it. Is this another example of Porsche ‘custom and practice’ that I’m going to need to swallow?I'm in exactly the same situation (fingers crossed), ordered early Jan, built 20 March, dealer just asked for the full payment this morning. So should be any moment now
Drove the 4.0 GTS Boxster today. Have not had a Porsche since a 2.7 Boxster then 2 997 911's. Car is really great in every respect, engine a monster, but what on earth are they thinking with these gear ratios.
I floored it at the bottom of an empty motorway slipway in second, just changed into third and looked down and was doing 88. Now I hate to be simple but one of the great enjoyments of a sports car with a manual box is swapping up and down the box and having the revs and power build towards a redline. these ratios mean you will only pull within 10% of peak revs in one gear. I have no idea what they think 4th,5th and 6th are for now except for a very fast track or the autobahn overdrive. I personally enjoy keeping an engine on the boil during the 'fun times' and frankly that's no longer possible. Its a great engine which I would want to hear sing, but can only do so if I only want to have a license for more than a couple of weeks.
I have read about modern Porsches being overheard but didn't realise it was this extreme. Have Porsche ever commented? If the ratios were more in line with 'normality" I would have ordered straightaway, but I just dont get it and given how good the rest of the car is , its such a bizarre choice.
I floored it at the bottom of an empty motorway slipway in second, just changed into third and looked down and was doing 88. Now I hate to be simple but one of the great enjoyments of a sports car with a manual box is swapping up and down the box and having the revs and power build towards a redline. these ratios mean you will only pull within 10% of peak revs in one gear. I have no idea what they think 4th,5th and 6th are for now except for a very fast track or the autobahn overdrive. I personally enjoy keeping an engine on the boil during the 'fun times' and frankly that's no longer possible. Its a great engine which I would want to hear sing, but can only do so if I only want to have a license for more than a couple of weeks.
I have read about modern Porsches being overheard but didn't realise it was this extreme. Have Porsche ever commented? If the ratios were more in line with 'normality" I would have ordered straightaway, but I just dont get it and given how good the rest of the car is , its such a bizarre choice.
Simonw99 said:
Drove the 4.0 GTS Boxster today. Have not had a Porsche since a 2.7 Boxster then 2 997 911's. Car is really great in every respect, engine a monster, but what on earth are they thinking with these gear ratios.
I floored it at the bottom of an empty motorway slipway in second, just changed into third and looked down and was doing 88. Now I hate to be simple but one of the great enjoyments of a sports car with a manual box is swapping up and down the box and having the revs and power build towards a redline. these ratios mean you will only pull within 10% of peak revs in one gear. I have no idea what they think 4th,5th and 6th are for now except for a very fast track or the autobahn overdrive. I personally enjoy keeping an engine on the boil during the 'fun times' and frankly that's no longer possible. Its a great engine which I would want to hear sing, but can only do so if I only want to have a license for more than a couple of weeks.
I have read about modern Porsches being overheard but didn't realise it was this extreme. Have Porsche ever commented? If the ratios were more in line with 'normality" I would have ordered straightaway, but I just dont get it and given how good the rest of the car is , its such a bizarre choice.
It's a modern car with 400bhp and a top speed of 185mph.I floored it at the bottom of an empty motorway slipway in second, just changed into third and looked down and was doing 88. Now I hate to be simple but one of the great enjoyments of a sports car with a manual box is swapping up and down the box and having the revs and power build towards a redline. these ratios mean you will only pull within 10% of peak revs in one gear. I have no idea what they think 4th,5th and 6th are for now except for a very fast track or the autobahn overdrive. I personally enjoy keeping an engine on the boil during the 'fun times' and frankly that's no longer possible. Its a great engine which I would want to hear sing, but can only do so if I only want to have a license for more than a couple of weeks.
I have read about modern Porsches being overheard but didn't realise it was this extreme. Have Porsche ever commented? If the ratios were more in line with 'normality" I would have ordered straightaway, but I just dont get it and given how good the rest of the car is , its such a bizarre choice.
What did you expect?
EEnBEE said:
Sorry if this is naive question from someone who is waiting (an extremely long time) for his first new Porsche, but why would a dealer expect to be paid before the car is available for collection? I would expect to see it, check it meets my spec, is undamaged, and has been properly prepared. I’ve had too many bad experiences with other new cars that are crap from the factory, or had a ‘small incident’ at the port. I have seen a couple of posts from customers who’ve paid for their car only to be told it is one of the ones with duff con-rods. I was scratching my head as to how this could have happened. Perhaps I’m a traditionalist, but I would want to swap the readies for the keys - cleared funds by a debit card usually does it. Is this another example of Porsche ‘custom and practice’ that I’m going to need to swallow?
Good point probably. It’s the first time I’m buying a brand new Porsche. I assumed it was standardEdited by px1980 on Wednesday 21st April 07:30
I'll be collecting the car next week. I started looking into insurance - I'll share my quotes and experience as hopefully some people may find it useful.
My quotes may be on the high side as (1) I haven't owned a "performance vehicle" before, (2) I wanted a combined track+road cover.
I first checked standalone trackday cover and it was £600+ per event (Grove Dean Motorsport) so I figured I'm better off with combined track+road cover (I plan to do say 5 trackdays a year in the Cayman, the rest in my MX-5).
I rang a couple of brokers recommended to me, as well as most insurers recommended on various threads here.
Mannings - won't insure unless I've owned a performance vehicle for 1 year / have driven 2000 miles in it. They're often recommended on here, I'll try them next year.
Admiral - I used to insure my Macan with them. Someone on here said "they came in cheapest, AND it was £1000 extra for unlimited trackdays so no-brainer". I called them, they were *very* surprised to hear about trackdays, a manager was consulted etc, bottom line is, they don't and "never have" offered trackday insurance. Otherwise the quote excluding trackdays would be ~£1800
Lockton - will only cover PCGB organised trackdays. Otherwise ~£1650 per year with 5x trackdays included so an OK quote
Classic Line - my current choice. £2,500 including 6 ATDO/ARDS approved trackdays. I'll probably go with them, although I don't like the excess equal to 10% of vehicle value.
My quotes may be on the high side as (1) I haven't owned a "performance vehicle" before, (2) I wanted a combined track+road cover.
I first checked standalone trackday cover and it was £600+ per event (Grove Dean Motorsport) so I figured I'm better off with combined track+road cover (I plan to do say 5 trackdays a year in the Cayman, the rest in my MX-5).
I rang a couple of brokers recommended to me, as well as most insurers recommended on various threads here.
Mannings - won't insure unless I've owned a performance vehicle for 1 year / have driven 2000 miles in it. They're often recommended on here, I'll try them next year.
Admiral - I used to insure my Macan with them. Someone on here said "they came in cheapest, AND it was £1000 extra for unlimited trackdays so no-brainer". I called them, they were *very* surprised to hear about trackdays, a manager was consulted etc, bottom line is, they don't and "never have" offered trackday insurance. Otherwise the quote excluding trackdays would be ~£1800
Lockton - will only cover PCGB organised trackdays. Otherwise ~£1650 per year with 5x trackdays included so an OK quote
Classic Line - my current choice. £2,500 including 6 ATDO/ARDS approved trackdays. I'll probably go with them, although I don't like the excess equal to 10% of vehicle value.
Edited by px1980 on Wednesday 21st April 11:00
Twinfan said:
It is if you want to only do PCGB days, sure. That's why I'm with them.
On discussing with the Classic Line sales rep, I was told that PCGB membership reduces the premium BUT the cover continues to apply to all ARDO or ARDS approved track days? Which I found a bit unusual but I was told that was the case. Very nice. Was this originally owned by someone on here?
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/718-Boxster-GT...
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/718-Boxster-GT...
Edited by boozyjay on Friday 30th April 11:18
boozyjay said:
Agreed nice spec I drove that very car yesterday. Very individual colour combo that I wasn’t completely sold on but no doubt others will be. Having once owned a 981S before moving on to 911s, I have found myself drawn to the possibility of going back to a Boxter given this engine. I have been wondering if it might simply be more fun than my current 992 C4S which is mighty impressive but almost too competent.
It was like stepping back in time with that punchy and instant naturally aspirated engine, lovely manual gearbox and dated interior (having become used to the 992s lovely cabin). The 992 is surprisingly quick (what is the Turbo S like?!!) and the Boxter is a good step down but still feels more than quick enough. I always felt that all the 981S needed was a little more power and this GTS has considerably more (and torque of course), so it really is a fabulous drive now even if the ride is slightly firmer than I remember. Just wish I hadn’t moved on to a 992 as it makes it a tougher decision compared to my previous 991.2.
It was like stepping back in time with that punchy and instant naturally aspirated engine, lovely manual gearbox and dated interior (having become used to the 992s lovely cabin). The 992 is surprisingly quick (what is the Turbo S like?!!) and the Boxter is a good step down but still feels more than quick enough. I always felt that all the 981S needed was a little more power and this GTS has considerably more (and torque of course), so it really is a fabulous drive now even if the ride is slightly firmer than I remember. Just wish I hadn’t moved on to a 992 as it makes it a tougher decision compared to my previous 991.2.
fmnjg said:
I drove that very car yesterday. Very individual colour combo that I wasn’t completely sold on but no doubt others will be. Having once owned a 981S before moving on to 911s, I have found myself drawn to the possibility of going back to a Boxter given this engine. I have been wondering if it might simply be more fun than my current 992 C4S which is mighty impressive but almost too competent.
It was like stepping back in time with that punchy and instant naturally aspirated engine, lovely manual gearbox and dated interior (having become used to the 992s lovely cabin). The 992 is surprisingly quick (what is the Turbo S like?!!) and the Boxter is a good step down but still feels more than quick enough. I always felt that all the 981S needed was a little more power and this GTS has considerably more (and torque of course), so it really is a fabulous drive now even if the ride is slightly firmer than I remember. Just wish I hadn’t moved on to a 992 as it makes it a tougher decision compared to my previous 991.2.
What did you think of the brown interior?It was like stepping back in time with that punchy and instant naturally aspirated engine, lovely manual gearbox and dated interior (having become used to the 992s lovely cabin). The 992 is surprisingly quick (what is the Turbo S like?!!) and the Boxter is a good step down but still feels more than quick enough. I always felt that all the 981S needed was a little more power and this GTS has considerably more (and torque of course), so it really is a fabulous drive now even if the ride is slightly firmer than I remember. Just wish I hadn’t moved on to a 992 as it makes it a tougher decision compared to my previous 991.2.
If Porsche had offered that combination as a Special Edition I have the feeling that it would have been quite popular ...
Of course, colour choice is a very personal thing.
The problem is that for all the right reasons dealers often nudge buyers to play safe.
Porsche special editions often don't !
Of course, colour choice is a very personal thing.
The problem is that for all the right reasons dealers often nudge buyers to play safe.
Porsche special editions often don't !
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