12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing (Vol. 2)

[MrVert]

kmpowell said:

Perhaps I sit in the middle, or maybe I'm just making the wrong decision?!?

The car will be a 3rd car (we have a big family bus and a school drop-off shop run car), for me to enjoy and use when our 4x kids are with mine and my partners respective 2 ex's. It won't be tracked (and even if it does I'm not track genius so I won't/can't push it to a place when're buckets will make that much difference), just enjoyed on A/B roads, and also to use when the 2 of us visit family and have days out together.

I've considered a GTS 4.0, but being honest, the thing doesn't excite me, it doesn't look or feel special enough. I want a car that takes me away from the place of having the 4 kids, back to the enjoyment I had of sports cars pre 'growing up'. (I've had things like T350, S2000, VX220 Turbo, 1m etc)

The dealer has emailed me to say he has 2 cars to chose from that are the same price. Different colours, but both the same age and same miles and pretty much the same small options like reversing camera, full Race-tex interior etc, but the significant difference is: 1 has buckets and steels, the other has 18-way and PCCB. My head is telling me I need 18-way and PCCB's.

Thoughts?

PCCB’s are nice to have, if only for not having brake dust all over the alloys…

Sounds like you prefer the 18 way seats & will not like / need the buckets…so I’d be going with that combination.

They are still very good seats if you’re not tracking the car.

[WG]

My thoughts for what they are worth

Why PCCB if the car is being driven mainly in the city. I am led to believe they are less responsive than steels until warmed up and you are not going to heat them up in urban driving - unles you drive lime a lunatic.

18 ways - if the car is being driven by multiple drivers then maybe but if you are the only driver, once you have found the right seating position you will never adjust them again. Extra weight and complication !

The reason you are seeing more manaual than PDK is that PDK has only been available to order since October (December build) 2020.

[Twinfan]

kmpowell said:

Thoughts?

Buckets and steels, then drive it like you stole it. Job done.

Note: I am of the opinion that GT cars without buckets are utterly pointless so I'm slightly biased...

[Andyoz]

Well back on topic there are more GT4's for sale now than a month of two ago looking at AT anyway.

A month or two ago, I'm sure there were less than 20 of each variant and now they there are close to 30 x 981 GT4 and 26 x 718 GT4.

I just think it indicates prices have topped out for now as stuff's slightly slower to shift.

[finmac]

If your worried about long terms values then GT4 must surely be near top of the list? Great cars and not a lot comparable for the money. Values have stood the test of time already.

[Andyoz]

finmac said:

If your worried about long terms values then GT4 must surely be near top of the list? Great cars and not a lot comparable for the money. Values have stood the test of time already.

Yes, the key thing is not alot (any?) competition at that price point in terms of mid-engined cars...

This ones around the corner from me and trying to resist taking it for a test drive (not really my color as not into the maintenance required with metallics)..

Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 3rd August 12:20

[Dan911]

Andyoz said:

Yes, the key thing is not alot (any?) competition at that price point in terms of mid-engined cars...

This ones around the corner from me and trying to resist taking it for a test drive (not really my color as not into the maintenance required with metallics)..

Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 3rd August 12:20

Love that... Shame the stitching is not yellow inside. I have been speaking to the dealer as the lack of Porsche warranty worry's me.

[Budweiser]

I’ve gone for PDK, two way seats and and PCCBs. Good looking carbon seats that are a pain to get in and out of are not for me. Your car so spec it how you want it. Surely that’s the point of buying a new car, you make it your own? I fully admit the brakes for me are purely a vanity buy as I just love the look of them on a GT Silver car. I doubt I will ever track my car so I should have ordered another GTS others have told me. They are probably right but I wanted a GT4 so that’s what I’m having.

Do your own thing my friend and enjoy the car in whichever way pleases you.

[julian987R]

Nice PTS came up for sale today if Green is your thing.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108025...

[diffstar]

kmpowell said:

I'm not buying a Daily. I'm buying a 3rd car for weekend fun and occasions... yet I still don't think the buckets would suit my needs 100%.

This was my view, having had buckets in a previous Carrera T. Over the moon with the comforts on my GT4

[AdamGT4]

Seems there is a new wave of comfort seated GT4 owners, who actually want to drive their cars instead of talking about spec/residuals

[diffstar]

AdamGT4 said:

Seems there is a new wave of comfort seated GT4 owners, who actually want to drive their cars instead of talking about spec/residuals

How dare they!

[Fezzamania]

AdamGT4 said:

Seems there is a new wave of comfort seated GT4 owners, who actually want to drive their cars instead of talking about spec/residuals

May as well of gone for a standard cayman if all they are going to do is drive them around at comfortable speed

[Porsche guy]

Twinfan said:

Note: I am of the opinion that GT cars without buckets are utterly pointless

+1

[av185]

Dan911 said:

Andyoz said:

Yes, the key thing is not alot (any?) competition at that price point in terms of mid-engined cars...

This ones around the corner from me and trying to resist taking it for a test drive (not really my color as not into the maintenance required with metallics)..

Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 3rd August 12:20

Love that... Shame the stitching is not yellow inside. I have been speaking to the dealer as the lack of Porsche warranty worry's me.

The 5 owners with only 9k miles would be an equal worry especially at that price ££.

Factor in the lack of Porsche warranty only for the brave or stupid.

[Shiverman]

WG said:

My thoughts for what they are worth

Why PCCB if the car is being driven mainly in the city. I am led to believe they are less responsive than steels until warmed up and you are not going to heat them up in urban driving - unles you drive lime a lunatic.

18 ways - if the car is being driven by multiple drivers then maybe but if you are the only driver, once you have found the right seating position you will never adjust them again. Extra weight and complication !

The reason you are seeing more manaual than PDK is that PDK has only been available to order since October (December build) 2020.

I haven't found PCCB's less responsive I think they are a great braking system - unless of course you've just washed your car in which case they just don't work for the first few stops which can be pretty hairy.

Thing I found with the PCCB's in the 981 GT4 is that they are grabby which made heal and toe far more difficult. It's a lot easier to modulate with the steel options. So much so that I spec'd my manual 991.2GT3 with steels so that I could H&T without putting the passenger through the windscreen.

I owed take a GT4 with comfort and PCCB any day for my 98% road use. If I wanted an track set-up buckets and steels all the way.

[Armitage.Shanks]

av185 said:

The 5 owners with only 9k miles would be an equal worry especially at that price ££.

Factor in the lack of Porsche warranty only for the brave or stupid.

Not unusal these days in terms of owners and as we've mentioned most don't drive them.

Porsche warranty is an easy fix. Running without is not a big deal. The only issue that's a potential risk appears dynamic engine mount failure requriring replacement.

[Andyoz]

av185 said:

Dan911 said:

Andyoz said:

Yes, the key thing is not alot (any?) competition at that price point in terms of mid-engined cars...

This ones around the corner from me and trying to resist taking it for a test drive (not really my color as not into the maintenance required with metallics)..

Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 3rd August 12:20

Love that... Shame the stitching is not yellow inside. I have been speaking to the dealer as the lack of Porsche warranty worry's me.

The 5 owners with only 9k miles would be an equal worry especially at that price ££.

Factor in the lack of Porsche warranty only for the brave or stupid.

Here's the number plate if it's anyone is looking (and my R next to it ).

Edited by Andyoz on Wednesday 4th August 07:44

[julian987R]

Andyoz said:

av185 said:

Dan911 said:

Andyoz said:

Yes, the key thing is not alot (any?) competition at that price point in terms of mid-engined cars...

This ones around the corner from me and trying to resist taking it for a test drive (not really my color as not into the maintenance required with metallics)..

Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 3rd August 12:20

Love that... Shame the stitching is not yellow inside. I have been speaking to the dealer as the lack of Porsche warranty worry's me.

The 5 owners with only 9k miles would be an equal worry especially at that price ££.

Factor in the lack of Porsche warranty only for the brave or stupid.

Here's the number plate if it's anyone is looking (and my R next to it ).

NI plate so useless for checking MOT history though.

That is some seriously close front parking to that wall!

[EvoSid]

If you like buckets get buckets
If you like comfort seats get comfort seats

If you are worried about ease of sale and residuals then get buckets plus club sport pack

Either way get one you will love it

Mine is 2016 with buckets, clubsport pack and PCCB's and I love it to bits. Even after 14 hours of driving in Scotland in 1 day the seats never gave me issues

Interesting to see loads more 981 Gt4's for sale amazing now the cheapest is nearly £70k!!!!!