12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing (Vol. 2)
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Hi there
I am contemplating getting into Porsche again, previous car was a 997.1 C2S aerokit car which drove amazingly well.
As such my shortlist is:
987 Boxster Spyder
987 Cayman R
981 Cayman GTS with sport suspension
981 Cayman GT4
Ideally a manual in all three, buckets.
Following these models all have gone up in price, except the GT4 as such to me the GT4 seems the safer buy and I can see there are many for sale and the numbers available seem to be increasing, maybe its news of a GT4 RS confirmed and 718 GT4's are maybe a little more available to order new from OPC or its the force, who knows.
Anyway back to the 981 GT4, do these cars have any known issues to look out for and what are the must have options on them, was PSE standard on GT4? Lastly do we think prices will get to 60k on the 981 GT4? I spotted a 1of1 Peridot green GT4 for sale on FB at £68,000 that looked incredible but I was too slow and it sold.
Everyone complains about the long gearing but is the GT4 a fun involving road car? I assume on track its amazing?
I am contemplating getting into Porsche again, previous car was a 997.1 C2S aerokit car which drove amazingly well.
As such my shortlist is:
987 Boxster Spyder
987 Cayman R
981 Cayman GTS with sport suspension
981 Cayman GT4
Ideally a manual in all three, buckets.
Following these models all have gone up in price, except the GT4 as such to me the GT4 seems the safer buy and I can see there are many for sale and the numbers available seem to be increasing, maybe its news of a GT4 RS confirmed and 718 GT4's are maybe a little more available to order new from OPC or its the force, who knows.
Anyway back to the 981 GT4, do these cars have any known issues to look out for and what are the must have options on them, was PSE standard on GT4? Lastly do we think prices will get to 60k on the 981 GT4? I spotted a 1of1 Peridot green GT4 for sale on FB at £68,000 that looked incredible but I was too slow and it sold.
Everyone complains about the long gearing but is the GT4 a fun involving road car? I assume on track its amazing?
Gibbo205 said:
Hi there
I am contemplating getting into Porsche again, previous car was a 997.1 C2S aerokit car which drove amazingly well.
As such my shortlist is:
987 Boxster Spyder
987 Cayman R
981 Cayman GTS with sport suspension
981 Cayman GT4
Ideally a manual in all three, buckets.
Following these models all have gone up in price, except the GT4 as such to me the GT4 seems the safer buy and I can see there are many for sale and the numbers available seem to be increasing, maybe its news of a GT4 RS confirmed and 718 GT4's are maybe a little more available to order new from OPC or its the force, who knows.
Anyway back to the 981 GT4, do these cars have any known issues to look out for and what are the must have options on them, was PSE standard on GT4? Lastly do we think prices will get to 60k on the 981 GT4? I spotted a 1of1 Peridot green GT4 for sale on FB at £68,000 that looked incredible but I was too slow and it sold.
Everyone complains about the long gearing but is the GT4 a fun involving road car? I assume on track its amazing?
Some might say there are many for sale yet...a few minutes ago a search of the PH classifieds showed 17 for sale but on closer inspection, four are either sold or reserved and one isn't a GT4. So that's just 12 for sale by that metric. AT might throw up a few more but again, check the listings for cars that are already sold (left on by traders to generate interest). Buying a GT4 for £60K will not happen any time soon and perhaps never will IMO.I am contemplating getting into Porsche again, previous car was a 997.1 C2S aerokit car which drove amazingly well.
As such my shortlist is:
987 Boxster Spyder
987 Cayman R
981 Cayman GTS with sport suspension
981 Cayman GT4
Ideally a manual in all three, buckets.
Following these models all have gone up in price, except the GT4 as such to me the GT4 seems the safer buy and I can see there are many for sale and the numbers available seem to be increasing, maybe its news of a GT4 RS confirmed and 718 GT4's are maybe a little more available to order new from OPC or its the force, who knows.
Anyway back to the 981 GT4, do these cars have any known issues to look out for and what are the must have options on them, was PSE standard on GT4? Lastly do we think prices will get to 60k on the 981 GT4? I spotted a 1of1 Peridot green GT4 for sale on FB at £68,000 that looked incredible but I was too slow and it sold.
Everyone complains about the long gearing but is the GT4 a fun involving road car? I assume on track its amazing?
boxsey said:
Some might say there are many for sale yet...a few minutes ago a search of the PH classifieds showed 17 for sale but on closer inspection, four are either sold or reserved and one isn't a GT4. So that's just 12 for sale by that metric. AT might throw up a few more but again, check the listings for cars that are already sold (left on by traders to generate interest). Buying a GT4 for £60K will not happen any time soon and perhaps never will IMO.
Thank you.Another question, the 981 Spyder, is this a GT4 without a roof or just a regular Boxster with some tweaks? Was it only the 718 Spyder that is a GT4 without a roof?
Snowy999 said:
981 Spyder = 3.8l engine pretty body kit but not GT4 (ie front GT3 derived) suspension. Super rare and, seems to me, v sought after and very pretty. Views may differ.
Thank you so a 981 Spyder is just the regular Boxster front end, only the 981 Cayman has a GT3 derived front suspension.It is so hard trying to decide between 987 Spyder or Cayman R or a 981 Cayman GT4 or Spyder lol.
Do the 987's have nicer steering feel compared to the newer 981's?
Gibbo205 said:
Hi there
I am contemplating getting into Porsche again, previous car was a 997.1 C2S aerokit car which drove amazingly well.
As such my shortlist is:
987 Boxster Spyder
987 Cayman R
981 Cayman GTS with sport suspension
981 Cayman GT4
Ideally a manual in all three, buckets.
Following these models all have gone up in price, except the GT4 as such to me the GT4 seems the safer buy and I can see there are many for sale and the numbers available seem to be increasing, maybe its news of a GT4 RS confirmed and 718 GT4's are maybe a little more available to order new from OPC or its the force, who knows.
Anyway back to the 981 GT4, do these cars have any known issues to look out for and what are the must have options on them, was PSE standard on GT4? Lastly do we think prices will get to 60k on the 981 GT4? I spotted a 1of1 Peridot green GT4 for sale on FB at £68,000 that looked incredible but I was too slow and it sold.
Everyone complains about the long gearing but is the GT4 a fun involving road car? I assume on track its amazing?
First question: coupe or soft top. That gets you to a choice of one or three. I am contemplating getting into Porsche again, previous car was a 997.1 C2S aerokit car which drove amazingly well.
As such my shortlist is:
987 Boxster Spyder
987 Cayman R
981 Cayman GTS with sport suspension
981 Cayman GT4
Ideally a manual in all three, buckets.
Following these models all have gone up in price, except the GT4 as such to me the GT4 seems the safer buy and I can see there are many for sale and the numbers available seem to be increasing, maybe its news of a GT4 RS confirmed and 718 GT4's are maybe a little more available to order new from OPC or its the force, who knows.
Anyway back to the 981 GT4, do these cars have any known issues to look out for and what are the must have options on them, was PSE standard on GT4? Lastly do we think prices will get to 60k on the 981 GT4? I spotted a 1of1 Peridot green GT4 for sale on FB at £68,000 that looked incredible but I was too slow and it sold.
Everyone complains about the long gearing but is the GT4 a fun involving road car? I assume on track its amazing?
If you want a coupe, of those three I’d say the main question is how much track focus do you want vs road.
On the GT4: third gear was the subject of a recall on some cars. I would not worry much about that - either the car doesn’t need a recall or if it does it’s either been done or will be done for free. ISTR reading stuff about strut towers failing but that is not something I’ve seen a lot about in print.
Options: there is a strong argument for less is more - get the buckets and nothing else. If you want more the alcantara and carbon interior is nice; the clubsport package makes a “I’m a track day guy” statement; sports exhaust was an option. As long as your PCM can take an aftermarket Carplay upgrade there’s not much reason to go crazy over the precise level of PCM in the car.
GT4s may get to 60k and may not. You might find an leggy one now that is close. Or you could end up waiting a long time for nothing. One thing is more probable though: if you get one, even at a stretch, you won’t regret it.
Gibbo205 said:
Snowy999 said:
981 Spyder = 3.8l engine pretty body kit but not GT4 (ie front GT3 derived) suspension. Super rare and, seems to me, v sought after and very pretty. Views may differ.
Thank you so a 981 Spyder is just the regular Boxster front end, only the 981 Cayman has a GT3 derived front suspension.It is so hard trying to decide between 987 Spyder or Cayman R or a 981 Cayman GT4 or Spyder lol.
Do the 987's have nicer steering feel compared to the newer 981's?
Strut tower seems to only be an issue with lowered suspension and massive abuse over kerbs or potholes at very high speed on the road.
Sports exhaust was standard on the GT4.
Edited by BubblesNW on Tuesday 17th August 15:48
Gibbo205 said:
Thank you so a 981 Spyder is just the regular Boxster front end, only the 981 Cayman has a GT3 derived front suspension.
It is so hard trying to decide between 987 Spyder or Cayman R or a 981 Cayman GT4 or Spyder lol.
Do the 987's have nicer steering feel compared to the newer 981's?
Cayman R has lovely steering feel and a very lively chassis (spyder will be the same). Loved mine. GT4 steering feel is different and probably less tactile but is appropriate to the car because it has so much more power and grip. I guess you already know that even though 987 Rs and spyders are about 10 years old that prices are very solid (£40K +) and are highly unlikely to ever go down?It is so hard trying to decide between 987 Spyder or Cayman R or a 981 Cayman GT4 or Spyder lol.
Do the 987's have nicer steering feel compared to the newer 981's?
Gibbo205 said:
Thank you so a 981 Spyder is just the regular Boxster front end, only the 981 Cayman has a GT3 derived front suspension.
It is so hard trying to decide between 987 Spyder or Cayman R or a 981 Cayman GT4 or Spyder lol.
Do the 987's have nicer steering feel compared to the newer 981's?
I have a GT4 and a 987 Spyder at present (my second one), and used to have a 981 Spyder.It is so hard trying to decide between 987 Spyder or Cayman R or a 981 Cayman GT4 or Spyder lol.
Do the 987's have nicer steering feel compared to the newer 981's?
For me the 987 Spyder is actually the more special car out of the 3, with best fun and enjoyment for road driving, that's why I bought my 2nd one recently and will keep it this time.
I actually went for PDK - again, I think it works really well in this car, but I imagine the manual is also pretty good.
I also had my first one on the track and it was a hoot to drive there as well, so not just a fun road car, and I'd agree the 987 Spyder has the best steering feel, although the GT4 is pretty good as well, just a bit different.
To be fair the 981 Spyder is also a great car, so you can't go much wrong with any of them really, the 981 cars do have a bit more space and leg room inside if that's any concern.
Road tax also cheaper for the 987 - every little helps
Quite alot of bad advice being posted by those who have probably never even driven a GT4 or Spyder never mind owned them.
GT4s and Spyders without pcm struggle to sell as do those without buckets and extended leather which understandably command far less ££ as the market prices have proved time and time again. Refer to the many threads confirming this.
Many cars have manual ac but climate is more desirable as is chrono carbon trim coloured stitching and auto dim etc. Sports exhaust is standard.
The 981 Spyder is slightly more usable than the GT4 largely down to its better front clearance but less focused as a package clearly because of its slightly less powerful engine standard brakes and tyres but in reality it is not much slower than the GT4 for road use. Some find the rather farty exhaust on the Spyder irritating in sport plus mode at least wheras the GT4 has an authentic and attractive sound across the rev range. Some prefer the Spyder as it is essentially a non GT Porsche which has little to prove whereas the 981 GT4 is somewhat let down by its strangled Carrera engine although as a package it is great I actually preferred my 981 Spyder to my 981 GT4 and the strong prices for even 6 year old cars above list ££ continue to prove this.
Clutch weighting and gearboxes on both cars are excellent and rarely bettered by any Porsche GT even the 991.2 GT3 and 718 GT4 and Spyder where the clutch is too light for a Porsche GT imo.
The highish gearing is more an issue on the 981 GT4 compared to the 718 which develops its torque at lower revs but in both cars it really is a non issue spouted mainly by internet folklore by those who haven't driven one. The manual 991.2 GT3 does 84mph in 2nd the GT4 does 83mph.
Finally sub £60k Spyder or GT4 very unlikely.
GT4s and Spyders without pcm struggle to sell as do those without buckets and extended leather which understandably command far less ££ as the market prices have proved time and time again. Refer to the many threads confirming this.
Many cars have manual ac but climate is more desirable as is chrono carbon trim coloured stitching and auto dim etc. Sports exhaust is standard.
The 981 Spyder is slightly more usable than the GT4 largely down to its better front clearance but less focused as a package clearly because of its slightly less powerful engine standard brakes and tyres but in reality it is not much slower than the GT4 for road use. Some find the rather farty exhaust on the Spyder irritating in sport plus mode at least wheras the GT4 has an authentic and attractive sound across the rev range. Some prefer the Spyder as it is essentially a non GT Porsche which has little to prove whereas the 981 GT4 is somewhat let down by its strangled Carrera engine although as a package it is great I actually preferred my 981 Spyder to my 981 GT4 and the strong prices for even 6 year old cars above list ££ continue to prove this.
Clutch weighting and gearboxes on both cars are excellent and rarely bettered by any Porsche GT even the 991.2 GT3 and 718 GT4 and Spyder where the clutch is too light for a Porsche GT imo.
The highish gearing is more an issue on the 981 GT4 compared to the 718 which develops its torque at lower revs but in both cars it really is a non issue spouted mainly by internet folklore by those who haven't driven one. The manual 991.2 GT3 does 84mph in 2nd the GT4 does 83mph.
Finally sub £60k Spyder or GT4 very unlikely.
Edited by av185 on Tuesday 17th August 16:31
av185 said:
GT4s and Spyders without pcm struggle to sell as do those without buckets and extended leather which understandably command far less ££ as the market prices have proved time and time again. Refer to the many threads confirming this.
Hence that's where the good prices are at. The PCM was outdated before 2015 when the GT4 appeared so going again I wouldn't bother with Nav etc. and fit the Car Play hack if needed. Yes I followed the herd and got PCM+ Nav but never use it. Seats are personal choice, I'd have been happy with sports or normal expecting a price difference. I agree climate is nice to have - set it and leave it. I very nearly bought a 981 Spyder but I decided at the last moment the manual roof would hack me off even though I'd have probably only driven it with the hood down. Went with the GT4. It is somenting else!
Gibbo205 said:
Hi there
I am contemplating getting into Porsche again, previous car was a 997.1 C2S aerokit car which drove amazingly well.
I spotted a 1of1 Peridot green GT4 for sale on FB at £68,000 that looked incredible but I was too slow and it sold.
Its your lucky day. it is back ..I am contemplating getting into Porsche again, previous car was a 997.1 C2S aerokit car which drove amazingly well.
I spotted a 1of1 Peridot green GT4 for sale on FB at £68,000 that looked incredible but I was too slow and it sold.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108196...
don't say I don't look out for people
julian987R said:
Its your lucky day. it is back ..
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108196...
don't say I don't look out for people
That is lovely but quite a Mark up if it sold for £68k!https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108196...
don't say I don't look out for people
keo said:
julian987R said:
Its your lucky day. it is back ..
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108196...
don't say I don't look out for people
That is lovely but quite a Mark up if it sold for £68k!https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108196...
don't say I don't look out for people
BlackWidow13 said:
julian987R said:
Armitage.Shanks said:
If this could be got for near £65k it's a bargain! 2016, sports buckets, 17k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107195...
Fake number plate. probably a scam. Beware. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107195...
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