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Brief update. Checking through the paper work yesterday, I noticed that the dealer had not provided an MOT. Got in contact with them and they told me that the service dept had missed this out. The car has it's original MOT that was carried out in October. This does not meet Porsche UK guidelines of providing a new MOT for an approved car.
Got in touch with Porsche UK and they pushed this back onto the dealer who is 3.5hrs away from me.
Who's responsibility is this?
I presume that Porsche UK needs to sort this out?
Got in touch with Porsche UK and they pushed this back onto the dealer who is 3.5hrs away from me.
Who's responsibility is this?
I presume that Porsche UK needs to sort this out?
Edited by manand38 on Tuesday 14th July 19:36
manand38 said:
Brief update. Checking through the paper work yesterday, I noticed that the dealer had not provided an MOT. Got in contact with them and they told me that the service dept had missed this out. The car has it's original MOT that was carried out in October. This does not meet Porsche UK guidelines of providing a new MOT for an approved car.
Got in touch with Porsche UK and they pushed this back onto the dealer who is 3.5hrs away from me.
Who's responsibility is this?
I presume that Porsche UK needs to sort this out?
Get an MOT done locally and send them the bill for £55.Got in touch with Porsche UK and they pushed this back onto the dealer who is 3.5hrs away from me.
Who's responsibility is this?
I presume that Porsche UK needs to sort this out?
Edited by manand38 on Tuesday 14th July 19:36
manand38 said:
OhThatHurtAbit said:
Get an MOT done locally and send them the bill for £55.
Yes, was going to do this but last time my local mot centre managed to damage a front spoiler.manand38 said:
Brief update. Checking through the paper work yesterday, I noticed that the dealer had not provided an MOT. Got in contact with them and they told me that the service dept had missed this out. The car has it's original MOT that was carried out in October. This does not meet Porsche UK guidelines of providing a new MOT for an approved car.
Got in touch with Porsche UK and they pushed this back onto the dealer who is 3.5hrs away from me.
Who's responsibility is this?
I presume that Porsche UK needs to sort this out?
I presume that Porsche UK needs to sort this out?Got in touch with Porsche UK and they pushed this back onto the dealer who is 3.5hrs away from me.
Who's responsibility is this?
I presume that Porsche UK needs to sort this out?
they really don't care about after sales, and cannot it seems fix or do anything atm !! the service and support from Porsche is lacking.
the level of any thing to do with humans at an OPC is so low I don't have words, and it seems at 3rd party as just as low.
Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 16th July 09:29
Porsche911R said:
I presume that Porsche UK needs to sort this out?
they really don't care about after sales, and cannot it seems fix or do anything atm !! the service and support from Porsche is lacking.
the level of any thing to do with humans at an OPC is so low I don't have words, and it seems at 3rd party as just as low.
Yes, very, very poor. Porsche UK really don’t care.they really don't care about after sales, and cannot it seems fix or do anything atm !! the service and support from Porsche is lacking.
the level of any thing to do with humans at an OPC is so low I don't have words, and it seems at 3rd party as just as low.
Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 16th July 09:29
manand38 said:
Yes, very, very poor. Porsche UK really don’t care.
My friends got a new 992, lemon, had it for 8 months, it's been with OPC 7.9 of them and really is a lemon.while it's been there they have dented the rear wing !!!
He is on his 3rd porker all been lemons !!! he's not buying another one.
all my friends have porkers, as do I, we all have issues on our cars, and it's pointless phoning Porsche UK they ,as you say don't care one bit.
Porsche have gone to the dogs atm. ZERO customer care ZERO service.
people buy these 991.1 GT3 in blind faith that they will get a new engine, but try and sort it with your OPC must be pulling teeth and I would not trust an OPC to fit an engine !!! they cannot bleed a brake caliper so fitting an engine lol be a lemon for life and come back damaged.
the brand sucks money arse atm which was ok while they were cheap, but the cars have shot up and the service prices have doubled !!!
when the service has halfed.
once you own your car you are on your own there days or you have to write nasty letters to DP's to get basics done.
Not that I rate any 3rd party dealer either. All money grabing ****** , it's depressing to try and find some one you can trust to look after the older cars as I will NOT be going back to my OPC. But having very little luck with 3rd party also !!
Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 16th July 10:06
Porsche911R said:
My friends got a new 992, lemon, had it for 8 months, it's been with OPC 7.9 of them and really is a lemon.
while it's been there they have dented the rear wing !!!
He is on his 3rd porker all been lemons !!! he's not buying another one.
all my friends have porkers, as do I, we all have issues on our cars, and it's pointless phoning Porsche UK they ,as you say don't care one bit.
Porsche have gone to the dogs atm. ZERO customer care ZERO service.
people buy these 991.1 GT3 in blind faith that they will get a new engine, but try and sort it with your OPC must be pulling teeth and I would not trust an OPC to fit an engine !!! they cannot bleed a brake caliper so fitting an engine lol be a lemon for life and come back damaged.
the brand sucks money arse atm which was ok while they were cheap, but the cars have shot up and the service prices have doubled !!!
which the service has halfed.
once you onw you car you are on your own there days or you have to write nasty letters to DP's to get basics done.
Not that I rate any 3rd party dealer either. All money grabing ****** , it's depressing to try and find some one you can trust to look after the older cars as I will NOT be going back to my OPC.
Brutal assessment David - brutal but sadly quite honest!while it's been there they have dented the rear wing !!!
He is on his 3rd porker all been lemons !!! he's not buying another one.
all my friends have porkers, as do I, we all have issues on our cars, and it's pointless phoning Porsche UK they ,as you say don't care one bit.
Porsche have gone to the dogs atm. ZERO customer care ZERO service.
people buy these 991.1 GT3 in blind faith that they will get a new engine, but try and sort it with your OPC must be pulling teeth and I would not trust an OPC to fit an engine !!! they cannot bleed a brake caliper so fitting an engine lol be a lemon for life and come back damaged.
the brand sucks money arse atm which was ok while they were cheap, but the cars have shot up and the service prices have doubled !!!
which the service has halfed.
once you onw you car you are on your own there days or you have to write nasty letters to DP's to get basics done.
Not that I rate any 3rd party dealer either. All money grabing ****** , it's depressing to try and find some one you can trust to look after the older cars as I will NOT be going back to my OPC.
You've been in the Porsche fold a lot longer than some of us and seen the demise, us newcomers just seem to accept the at times appalling service, misplaced arrogance of sales teams and general lack of customer care. I'm on Porsche number 4, never purchased from an OPC and sadly only use them for the ink stamp in the service book - without a doubt the most expensive ink in the World!!! LOL
The new Porsches seem to be very troublesome especially with electrical gremlins..I owned a new 992S Coupe for a few months before my RS arrived and really happy i sold it back to my OPC for only a £4K loss..They sold it on and the new owner has had endless problems with it apparently, a true lemon..I have owned two new gen Panameras Hybrids from new, the first one just trouble and the second one was faultless.
I'm also on my second new gen Cayenne which has turned out to be a lemon with a capital L whereas the first one was perfect..
Porsche seem to be going through a bad patch ATM reflecting in their cars which seem to vary hugely in build quality..I much prefer the 991.2 from the GTS to my current GT3 RS WP compared to any 992..I also much prefer the previous gen Cayenne to the latest one which seems to have been cheapened by VAG bean counters.
I'm also on my second new gen Cayenne which has turned out to be a lemon with a capital L whereas the first one was perfect..
Porsche seem to be going through a bad patch ATM reflecting in their cars which seem to vary hugely in build quality..I much prefer the 991.2 from the GTS to my current GT3 RS WP compared to any 992..I also much prefer the previous gen Cayenne to the latest one which seems to have been cheapened by VAG bean counters.
Fortunately the 981 and 982 are largely identical and don't rely heavily on loads of new tech or parts - the 981 seems pretty good with maybe the exception of dynamic transmission mounts which seem to be randomly affected by failures. It's a bit more old-skool than the 992, which in a sports car is a good thing to my eyes.
The next gen Cayster, if and when it arrives, may well be a different kettle of fish...
The next gen Cayster, if and when it arrives, may well be a different kettle of fish...
Taffy66 said:
The new Porsches seem to be very troublesome especially with electrical gremlins..I owned a new 992S Coupe for a few months before my RS arrived and really happy i sold it back to my OPC for only a £4K loss..They sold it on and the new owner has had endless problems with it apparently, a true lemon..I have owned two new gen Panameras Hybrids from new, the first one just trouble and the second one was faultless.
I'm also on my second new gen Cayenne which has turned out to be a lemon with a capital L whereas the first one was perfect..
Porsche seem to be going through a bad patch ATM reflecting in their cars which seem to vary hugely in build quality..I much prefer the 991.2 from the GTS to my current GT3 RS WP compared to any 992..I also much prefer the previous gen Cayenne to the latest one which seems to have been cheapened by VAG bean counters.
A bad patch lol the good patch's are far and few between with Porsche !!! ok if you pick a 2010 car, the rest, well it's pot look, the 991.2 GT3 thankfully works.I'm also on my second new gen Cayenne which has turned out to be a lemon with a capital L whereas the first one was perfect..
Porsche seem to be going through a bad patch ATM reflecting in their cars which seem to vary hugely in build quality..I much prefer the 991.2 from the GTS to my current GT3 RS WP compared to any 992..I also much prefer the previous gen Cayenne to the latest one which seems to have been cheapened by VAG bean counters.
who the ****wants a 992 GT3 if you own a 991.2 GT3 apart from the VIP ********* I cannot see the ave person wanting one.
Twinfan said:
Fortunately the 981 and 982 are largely identical and don't rely heavily on loads of new tech or parts - the 981 seems pretty good with maybe the exception of dynamic transmission mounts which seem to be randomly affected by failures. It's a bit more old-skool than the 992, which in a sports car is a good thing to my eyes.
The next gen Cayster, if and when it arrives, may well be a different kettle of fish...
the gearbox is sThe next gen Cayster, if and when it arrives, may well be a different kettle of fish...
t :-) and 981 EPS was dire utter crap, my mate just picked up a 981 Cayman, and yes now needs new "transmission mounts" he only had it a week !!! but guess what, the 1st lot did not work so it's had 2 lots !!!only working Porkers are 2010 models and 991.2 GT3's it seems.
Twinfan said:
While you may not like the gearbox or EPS, they both work and do not fail. The 981 and 982 are very reliable cars, save for the mounts as I previously mentioned. Overall quality is very good, you hardly ever hear about lemons or cars riddled with faults.
Probably why older porkers and //M cars are holding good prices..Twinfan said:
While you may not like the gearbox or EPS, they both work and do not fail. The 981 and 982 are very reliable cars, save for the mounts as I previously mentioned. Overall quality is very good, you hardly ever hear about lemons or cars riddled with faults.
short memory you have then, 981 GT4 gearbox recall for spot welding 3rd gear !! and been torque limited from the 3.4 era !!!main reason I sold up after 2 years as it was to risky to remap due to the 3rd gear issue, I sold mine but they then did a recall, 2 YEARS LATER !!!!
now the same old s
t gear box in the 718 !! so owner have a 4.0l engine they cannot use hence it's not much faster than the 981 !!Twinfan said:
Not a short memory at all. The gearbox issue was fixed by Porsche on all cars, it's no longer a problem or a risk to any owner.
Your making out the cars are trash when they're not.
It was trash, it took 2 ****years to do the recall and it's still torque limited.Your making out the cars are trash when they're not.
I sold mine because of that reason !!! I needed a gearbox warranty so could not release that engine.
Only cure/fix was to spend another £65k buying the GT3, which while I love it's a lot of money for a fun car.
I would much prefer a working GT4 without the flaws as I am not a 911 person really.
You said there were no issues that's a pretty major error they tried to shun at the time for 2 years !!!
now we get
"Porsche, Frank-Steffen Walliser, Admits The Cayman GT4’s Gearing Is Too Long" the fix buy a PDK !!!
well good luck talking to an OPC about a PDK GT4 !!!!
It's not like they are cheap cars !!! £85k for a nice speced up GT4 which sound s
t and have a 10 year old gear box !!It's not good enough imho.
Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 16th July 13:23
I'm talking about standard cars as provided by Porsche, it's not their job to provide a platform for mods.
I'm not arguing with you any more as it's always pointless, but I stand by my view that a factory standard 981/982 is a reliable car with no major issues aside from the active transmission mounts which have been known to fail.
I'm not arguing with you any more as it's always pointless, but I stand by my view that a factory standard 981/982 is a reliable car with no major issues aside from the active transmission mounts which have been known to fail.
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