718 GT4 UK Allocations
Discussion
Twinfan said:
Which GTS chassis? -10mm or -20mm?
I've not driven the GTS but I will guess based on individual reviews and specs:
Thank you Twinfan, I really do appreciate all this help. It would be the -20mm chassis. I have wanted a GT car for so long but do feel the GTS would be easier to live with day to day. I understand in 3 years GT4 will be worth c.90% and GTS c.70%. I've not driven the GTS but I will guess based on individual reviews and specs:
- they're pretty similar in engine performance with the GTS having a 200rpm lower redine
- the -20mm chassis feels a bit softer and more comfortable than the GT4 and much less likely to scrape, the -10mm even more so
- GT4 residuals will be quoted as a bit more than the GTS due to the higher initial price
Are you loving your GT4?
av185 said:
Yep my OPC will only be getting 3 or 4 max.
No one knows how long production will continue into next year.
Personally I would go for a manual if you are offered one rather than be disappointed not getting a PDK.
Great! Such small allocations for the UK No one knows how long production will continue into next year.
Personally I would go for a manual if you are offered one rather than be disappointed not getting a PDK.
I thought I read somewhere that production will run up to 2022? To cover the development cost of the engine.
Sadly I’m not sure I could go from a 718 GTS PDK to a manual GT4 - due to the performance difference. It would have to be PDK
Edited by mattkidd on Thursday 13th August 17:05
Tony718 said:
Are you loving your GT4?
Absolutely 
I had a 981 GTS before it which was a fantastic all-rounder, however I personally prefer something a bit more focussed. It was either a GT4 or stick with my 981 GTS, I wouldn't have changed to a GTS 4.0. I knew exactly what I wanted including its limitations and that's fine for me. You seem a little more undecided on what you want, I was completely unequivocal in my choice.
Can you get a drive in a 4.0 GTS demonstrator and either a 718 or 981 GT4? You should be able to tell straight away which car suits you better. If you can't find a dealer with a GT4 you could always drive the 981 GT4 at PEC SIlverstone.
Twinfan said:
Absolutely
I had a 981 GTS before it which was a fantastic all-rounder, however I personally prefer something a bit more focussed. It was either a GT4 or stick with my 981 GTS, I wouldn't have changed to a GTS 4.0. I knew exactly what I wanted including its limitations and that's fine for me. You seem a little more undecided on what you want, I was completely unequivocal in my choice.
Can you get a drive in a 4.0 GTS demonstrator and either a 718 or 981 GT4? You should be able to tell straight away which car suits you better. If you can't find a dealer with a GT4 you could always drive the 981 GT4 at PEC SIlverstone.
Silverstone have a 718 GT4 unless something has changed did you not get a 1/2 day before you bought yours ?I had a 981 GTS before it which was a fantastic all-rounder, however I personally prefer something a bit more focussed. It was either a GT4 or stick with my 981 GTS, I wouldn't have changed to a GTS 4.0. I knew exactly what I wanted including its limitations and that's fine for me. You seem a little more undecided on what you want, I was completely unequivocal in my choice.
Can you get a drive in a 4.0 GTS demonstrator and either a 718 or 981 GT4? You should be able to tell straight away which car suits you better. If you can't find a dealer with a GT4 you could always drive the 981 GT4 at PEC SIlverstone.
Twinfan said:
Absolutely
I had a 981 GTS before it which was a fantastic all-rounder, however I personally prefer something a bit more focussed. It was either a GT4 or stick with my 981 GTS, I wouldn't have changed to a GTS 4.0. I knew exactly what I wanted including its limitations and that's fine for me. You seem a little more undecided on what you want, I was completely unequivocal in my choice.
Can you get a drive in a 4.0 GTS demonstrator and either a 718 or 981 GT4? You should be able to tell straight away which car suits you better. If you can't find a dealer with a GT4 you could always drive the 981 GT4 at PEC SIlverstone.
Thanks, GT4 does look amazing! Just worry that it would be damaged over speed bumps and be a pain in the wet but love the idea of a GT4 as expect it will be one of the best manual cars ever. I had a 981 GTS before it which was a fantastic all-rounder, however I personally prefer something a bit more focussed. It was either a GT4 or stick with my 981 GTS, I wouldn't have changed to a GTS 4.0. I knew exactly what I wanted including its limitations and that's fine for me. You seem a little more undecided on what you want, I was completely unequivocal in my choice.
Can you get a drive in a 4.0 GTS demonstrator and either a 718 or 981 GT4? You should be able to tell straight away which car suits you better. If you can't find a dealer with a GT4 you could always drive the 981 GT4 at PEC SIlverstone.
Agreed need to see if any dealers have a demo so I can check clearance on my driveway and assess against GTS.
Geoff39GL said:
Silverstone have a 718 GT4 unless something has changed did you not get a 1/2 day before you bought yours ?
I certainly did, but I don't think you can book the 718 GT4 yourself only via an OPC if you have a car on order. That was certainly the case with the 981 GT4 while they were still in production as I tried to book a session and was denied. It was reserved for buyers only.Worth asking though in case things have changed
Tony718 said:
Thanks, GT4 does look amazing! Just worry that it would be damaged over speed bumps and be a pain in the wet but love the idea of a GT4 as expect it will be one of the best manual cars ever.
Agreed need to see if any dealers have a demo so I can check clearance on my driveway and assess against GTS.
The GT4 will be fine in the wet with a set of MPS4Ss on - you could get a second set of rims (which could be sold on later; if you buy s/h, you may not lose much, if anything) or you could just replace and sell the Cup 2s as new (assuming that they are removed from the rims without sidewall damage). Minimal loss ...Agreed need to see if any dealers have a demo so I can check clearance on my driveway and assess against GTS.
You also don't need to have N-rated MPS4Ss ... However, you can get 285/20s for the rear that are N-rated. These are fitted to GT-Rs and if a 650+ torque GT-R is fine with them on I am sure that a GT4 will be (can attest for the GT-R but not tried them on the GT4 yet tbh). Also, I think that the official Porsche-supplied winter tyre size is 285/20?
Speed bumps, probably fine in the main tbh. You may get one or two bad ones but if you one-wheel them it should be fine. As stated, drives and other steep inclines may be more awkward but these are less common (someone near you with a GT4 may be able to test your drive?).
As stated, get the car that suits you best. However, if you really want a GT car, see if you can try one (Silverstone, for example) to see how you get on. Don't post exactly where you live, obviously, but if you post the approximate region then a GT4 owner on here may be willing to pop over and see if your drive will be an issue for you.
If 2020 has told us anything, there's a huge amount of sh!t out there. If you have a dream, and if it's realistic, go for it as you never know what is round the corner! [Obvious caveats apply ...]
Good luck and enjoy whichever decision you make. Both will be great cars and I'm sure you'll love driving either
Tony718 said:
but love the idea of a GT4 as expect it will be one of the best manual cars ever.
https://youtu.be/bB7s4yGy6foThey fixed the engine and Porsche answer to the gearing is “buy the PDK”
If you want the best car and I guess the most fun , PDK Boxster 4.0l GTS. And suck it up not being a manual.
You get a working roof, you get short gears, you get a nice engine, you don’t get a daft splitter so can use car parks and you get road tyres.
Will a GT 718 drive better , not really if anything thinner tyres will make the GTS feel move alive on the road and more adjustable.
If you want the GT feel spec buckets and 20mm lower sus and take it for a geo when you pick it up.
Or you can buy a GT4 because it’s rare and looks cool ??
Or buy a manual 718 GT4 and put 10k into the gearbox .....
Porsche911R said:
https://youtu.be/bB7s4yGy6fo
They fixed the engine and Porsche answer to the gearing is “buy the PDK”
If you want the best car and I guess the most fun , PDK Boxster 4.0l GTS. And suck it up not being a manual.
You get a working roof, you get short gears, you get a nice engine, you don’t get a daft splitter so can use car parks and you get road tyres.
Will a GT 718 drive better , not really if anything thinner tyres will make the GTS feel move alive on the road and more adjustable.
If you want the GT feel spec buckets and 20mm lower sus and take it for a geo when you pick it up.
Or you can buy a GT4 because it’s rare and looks cool ??
Or buy a manual 718 GT4 and put 10k into the gearbox .....
Nowt wrong with the gearbox on the GT4. Do people really drive everywhere revving to 8k rpm?They fixed the engine and Porsche answer to the gearing is “buy the PDK”
If you want the best car and I guess the most fun , PDK Boxster 4.0l GTS. And suck it up not being a manual.
You get a working roof, you get short gears, you get a nice engine, you don’t get a daft splitter so can use car parks and you get road tyres.
Will a GT 718 drive better , not really if anything thinner tyres will make the GTS feel move alive on the road and more adjustable.
If you want the GT feel spec buckets and 20mm lower sus and take it for a geo when you pick it up.
Or you can buy a GT4 because it’s rare and looks cool ??
Or buy a manual 718 GT4 and put 10k into the gearbox .....
Tony718 said:
I understand in 3 years GT4 will be worth c.90% and GTS c.70%.
Where are you getting these figures from ? They are very optimistic? Your choice seems to be driven on residuals not the car?
We are entering a very unstable situation for the next 2 to 3 years . Porsches will become more expensive to run and the possible government white paper to i crease fuel and road find tax duty.
Youve got to get the car you want today if your worried spec a safe colour and no extras and dont put any miles on it. Its very difficult to sell a 70k car to the public so you end up a trade sale which isnt the figure you quote.
At present most buy pcp so dont care about what its worth and hand it back.
Judging by nearly 25 for sale on AT and zero miles at dealers fir sale im guessing a few already cant afford or cancelled their order.
Get the car you actually want colour and spec and dont worry about the future values .your in a very lucky position to be buying a new Porsche
Bedlamater said:
Mad Scientist said:
MannyLon said:
Nowt wrong with the gearbox on the GT4. Do people really drive everywhere revving to 8k rpm?
So true. Problem is, everyone wants to be Chris Harris. Once he said it, the band wagon was on!
In order to get any torque out of this engine, you have to rev the nuts off it and keep it on the boil over 5000 revs.
You should be buying the GT4 BECAUSE you have to nail it to the redline to get power out of it.
Check out this video of the 981 GT4. The driver is on a lovely winding backroad and he never gets out of 2nd gear.
If you find yourself wincing at the sound the engine is making at high revs then cancel your orders as thats what you will be doing in your 718 GT4's.
https://youtu.be/JzF8alNjotU
v8ksn said:
In order to get any torque out of this engine, you have to rev the nuts off it and keep it on the boil over 5000 revs.
Not true of the 4.0 in the 718 GT4, it's much more flexible than the 981's 3.8.I rev my car out when and where I can and I also cruise around if I'm not in a hurry or the traffic dictates it. The gearing is absolutely fine for me, I have zero issues with it.
v8ksn said:
Chaps, why are you buying a GT4 if you are NOT going to regularly extend it to the redline?
In order to get any torque out of this engine, you have to rev the nuts off it and keep it on the boil over 5000 revs.
You should be buying the GT4 BECAUSE you have to nail it to the redline to get power out of it.
Check out this video of the 981 GT4. The driver is on a lovely winding backroad and he never gets out of 2nd gear.
If you find yourself wincing at the sound the engine is making at high revs then cancel your orders as thats what you will be doing in your 718 GT4's.
https://youtu.be/JzF8alNjotU
On the road, you really don’t need to redline all the time. Most of the time I change gear on engine sound. If I’ve got enough power in a gear and it’s sounds right, I change gear. Maybe it’s my driving style, but I need gentle power through the corners and on a straight, some power initially. I do stretch the engine, but certainly not as much as mentioned on UTube celebrities vids.In order to get any torque out of this engine, you have to rev the nuts off it and keep it on the boil over 5000 revs.
You should be buying the GT4 BECAUSE you have to nail it to the redline to get power out of it.
Check out this video of the 981 GT4. The driver is on a lovely winding backroad and he never gets out of 2nd gear.
If you find yourself wincing at the sound the engine is making at high revs then cancel your orders as thats what you will be doing in your 718 GT4's.
https://youtu.be/JzF8alNjotU
Track driving would be different.
MannyLon said:
On the road, you really don’t need to redline all the time. Most of the time I change gear on engine sound. If I’ve got enough power in a gear and it’s sounds right, I change gear. Maybe it’s my driving style, but I need gentle power through the corners and on a straight, some power initially. I do stretch the engine, but certainly not as much as mentioned on UTube celebrities vids.
Track driving would be different.
Fair enough. Track driving would be different.
When I had my GT3 the devil on my shoulder kept telling me to go faster and faster as it sounded so good and the chassis really came alive at high speeds. Nailing gear changes and high-speed downs
ts with a blip of the throttle was PROPERLY addictive. Long trips into Europe across French D roads and Swiss alpine passes were life-affirming and the car really excelled in these environments.
It's speed is one of the reasons I sold it, it was just too damm fast for the UK roads and no fun when pottering around.
v8ksn said:
If you find yourself wincing at the sound the engine is making at high revs then cancel your orders as thats what you will be doing in your 718 GT4's.
https://youtu.be/JzF8alNjotU
Why would we wince at that? The only thing that's causing me moderate discomfort is his choice of gloves. We all know you need to go with the stringbacks for the extra purchase. https://youtu.be/JzF8alNjotU
v8ksn said:
Chaps, why are you buying a GT4 if you are NOT going to regularly extend it to the redline?
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because cool init :-)I
anyone who says gearing in NOT an issue is in the "look at me" group.
Nothing wrong with that either, people buy what they want.
As for me copying Chris harris, lol I have been saying this for 20 years well before CH, his tag line was "less understeer" every model !
mine always has been long GT gearing.
Rojibo said:
v8ksn said:
If you find yourself wincing at the sound the engine is making at high revs then cancel your orders as thats what you will be doing in your 718 GT4's.
https://youtu.be/JzF8alNjotU
Why would we wince at that? The only thing that's causing me moderate discomfort is his choice of gloves. We all know you need to go with the stringbacks for the extra purchase. https://youtu.be/JzF8alNjotU
Porsche911R said:
because cool init :-)
anyone who says gearing in NOT an issue is in the "look at me" group.
Nothing wrong with that either, people buy what they want.
As for me copying Chris harris, lol I have been saying this for 20 years well before CH, his tag line was "less understeer" every model !
mine always has been long GT gearing.
Well I’m certainly not a poser, I drive the way I like, gearing is not a problem. Please don’t label people who disagree with your view. It comes across arrogant.anyone who says gearing in NOT an issue is in the "look at me" group.
Nothing wrong with that either, people buy what they want.
As for me copying Chris harris, lol I have been saying this for 20 years well before CH, his tag line was "less understeer" every model !
mine always has been long GT gearing.
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