718 GT4 UK Allocations

[Twinair]

LiamH66 said:

Twinair said:

Picked up mine yesterday. Very lightly used - manual, with all the extras. I wouldn’t have paid or waited or been in the line for a new one anyway.

Definitely a car I am going to have to learn how to drive it…

1st world problems.

Wonderfully manual and analog compared to my outgoing M4 Comp X drive… :-))

Any photos? See my post about PEC Precision Track Experience. They'll help you learn how to drive it if you are up for it.

They are fabulous cars, and if you found one in a spec that you like, really doesn't matter for a lightly used one, especially given that you can't order a new one anymore! Hope you enjoy it enormously, they are brilliant things, and I honestly think end of an era now.

Liam

Thanks Liam - I will check that out, defo…!

I think I was definitely over driving the car on the way home after pick up, that engine singing up to 7k plus and probably over exaggerated cornering. Yesterday I got on my favourite B road, and after a couple of good nights sleep, and all fresh, I can see that this is an absolute scalpel - it’s like all the best bits of the performance cars I’ve owned - all rolled into 1 ‘greatest hits vehicle’. It’s a very special thing - indeed. Very special. The spec was pretty much what I would have done (if I could have afforded to!) Carbons, manual, Cup2’s with 5mm on them, club sport, special manufacture buckets, alcantara everywhere, lap timer, back up cam, interior carbon, I even got (had to have!) the yellow stripe on the alcantara wheel. It’s really got masses of spec on it. I couldn’t have afforded one in this trim new. I am a bit wary of posting the pics of it, you know… tea leaves… I will take it to a couple of Sunday services - it’s black - with gold wheels… :-)) it’s a real beauty…!! (Has full PPF on it too - which was a bonus)

Of course, the other good thing, is that although you might pay a bit more from the OPC, it does have a bit more than 2 years warranty on it. If I had bought a 10 year old Gallardo, or 5 year old R10, you would pretty much be ‘on your own’ - that might have been ok on a hot hatch at 20-30k - but at this sort of investment price - I think you need some proper back up - if things go wrong… it a lot of engine back there…!

See you out there - the Cotswolds is my regular training ground!

[kmpowell]

Let’s see how long this delivery mileage PTS car hangs around Bramley’s for, at…. wait for it… £130k!

https://www.bramley.com/stock/2023-porsche-718-cay...

[GT4P]

Bit like these dreamers, although this is rarer and some would say more desirable and £5k cheaper!
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13724907

[av185]

GT4P said:

Bit like these dreamers, although this is rarer and some would say more desirable and £5k cheaper!
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13724907

Non PTS boring and very common black.

Also Spyder is 2022 car GT4 is 2023.

[GT4P]

Yes black doesn’t work on a Spyder and the green Gt4 is no better but any one who is stupid enough to pay that sort of money for either car deserves to loose £30k+ as soon as they are driven out the showroom. But despite boring black vs PTS the Spyder will hold its value better!
How many 718 Gt4 at end of run circa 1500 and only what circa 300 Spyders!

[av185]

GT4P said:

Yes black doesn’t work on a Spyder and the green Gt4 is no better but any one who is stupid enough to pay that sort of money for either car deserves to loose £30k+ as soon as they are driven out the showroom. But despite boring black vs PTS the Spyder will hold its value better!
How many 718 Gt4 at end of run circa 1500 and only what circa 300 Spyders!

Fair points but your 718 GT4 numbers are too high btw.

Also don't forget there are effectively two markets for the GT4 i.e. CS and non CS hence reducing the available pool of car .....not so with the Spyder effectively only one model.

I would also question that the Spyder will hold its value better because it is a more niche car and the GT4 has a much broader appeal this being proven by the 981 GT4 and 981 Spyder values being roughly identical despite only c224 Spyders v c 600 981 GT4s.

The other interesting fact counteracting your reasoning is that the Spyder was around £1500 cheaper ££ than the GT4 to buy new reflecting its limited appeal and if Porsche thought they could charge more than the 718 GT4 they would especially bearing in mind it is a convertible (and the GTS Boxster is more expensive than the GTS Cayman).

For the record I have owned a 981 Spyder from new alongside a 981 GT4 from new and they are both great cars although the GT4 imo has the edge and not just down to its GT3 front chassis either.

[ntiz]

Collected my GT4 this afternoon and drove it the 300 miles home.

I’m a little bit worried about some of the sounds it is making hoping you guys can shed some light.

Between 2-3k it sounds it sounds quite chattery and a little rough, is this normal?

Has a pretty much constant high pitch whine almost like a super charger, got drowned out if you rev it a lot. But always there at a cruise got worse as I started to enjoy myself closer to home.

Just a bit worried could need a trip to OPC already.

[isleofthorns]

Twinair said:

Picked up mine yesterday. Very lightly used - manual, with all the extras. I wouldn’t have paid or waited or been in the line for a new one anyway.

Definitely a car I am going to have to learn how to drive it…

1st world problems.

Wonderfully manual and analog compared to my outgoing M4 Comp X drive… :-))

I test drove one the other day... tbh, I wasn't too sure about it. It was a delivery mile car, so kept the revs down. My 911 seems more hardcore with sports pasm and sports exhaust. does it come alive higher up?

[LiamH66]

Twinair said:

Thanks Liam - I will check that out, defo…!

I think I was definitely over driving the car on the way home after pick up, that engine singing up to 7k plus and probably over exaggerated cornering. Yesterday I got on my favourite B road, and after a couple of good nights sleep, and all fresh, I can see that this is an absolute scalpel - it’s like all the best bits of the performance cars I’ve owned - all rolled into 1 ‘greatest hits vehicle’. It’s a very special thing - indeed. Very special. <snip>

See you out there - the Cotswolds is my regular training ground!

Let's hope so, but a trek for me, as I'm in the Pennines.

Sounds like a fabulous spec, and most of which I have in my old 981 GT4. You are right, they really are special. The carbon brakes and bucket seats would likely not have been available even if you could have ordered a new one. While the colour and wheel colour choice isn't one I would have made, I could more than live with it. Jealous of the steering wheel marker and carbon brakes, but not enough to pay to have either retro-fitted!

As far as OPC/warranty goes, my 981 GT4 got a gearbox change on recall when it was about 3 years old, as did all that were still in the network. That would have been expensive to fix! But compared to most supercars, they really don't seem to go too wrong all that often. OPC has always given me peace of mind, so I have always extended the warranty and used them for things that warrant a stamp in the service book.

If you think it's a scalpel now, consider investing in a good suspension setup, but get out for PEC Precision, or a track day or 2, before and after. They are set up to be pretty benign ex-works, and can be a lot sharper and more planted with a bit of adjustment, and without any parts being changed from standard. Suspension Secrets absolutely transformed my 981 GT4 from wallowing a little in high speed corners, and always tending towards turn-in understeer, to where I'm always ready to correct with a little opposite lock when I overcook things. Cannot wait for warmer/drier weather and a good occasion to put the Cup 2s back on it!

Liam

[northernmedia]

isleofthorns said:

I test drove one the other day... tbh, I wasn't too sure about it. It was a delivery mile car, so kept the revs down. My 911 seems more hardcore with sports pasm and sports exhaust. does it come alive higher up?

Sounds like a trip to the shops rather than a test drive.

[sam_jw]

ntiz said:

Collected my GT4 this afternoon and drove it the 300 miles home.

I’m a little bit worried about some of the sounds it is making hoping you guys can shed some light.

Between 2-3k it sounds it sounds quite chattery and a little rough, is this normal?

Has a pretty much constant high pitch whine almost like a super charger, got drowned out if you rev it a lot. But always there at a cruise got worse as I started to enjoy myself closer to home.

Just a bit worried could need a trip to OPC already.

I've just ticked over the first 2000 miles in mine:

It has a very quiet little 'whine' at low revs - I did have to go back to the OPC for a brake issue and they didn't pick up on it when I mentioned it to them.

Can't help you with the 'chatter', I will have a listen for it next time I'm out in the car.

[northernmedia]

sam_jw said:

ntiz said:

Collected my GT4 this afternoon and drove it the 300 miles home.

I’m a little bit worried about some of the sounds it is making hoping you guys can shed some light.

Between 2-3k it sounds it sounds quite chattery and a little rough, is this normal?

Has a pretty much constant high pitch whine almost like a super charger, got drowned out if you rev it a lot. But always there at a cruise got worse as I started to enjoy myself closer to home.

Just a bit worried could need a trip to OPC already.

I've just ticked over the first 2000 miles in mine:

It has a very quiet little 'whine' at low revs - I did have to go back to the OPC for a brake issue and they didn't pick up on it when I mentioned it to them.

Can't help you with the 'chatter', I will have a listen for it next time I'm out in the car.

Now I've unplugged the vacuum pipes I can barely hear a thing

[Twinfan]

It's a GT car, with less sound deadening, not a Rolls Royce. You will hear rattles, chatters, stone flicks in the wheel arches etc.

Don't worry about it unless something obviously breaks or a warning light comes up on the dash.

[kmpowell]

GT4P said:

Bit like these dreamers

For context, I think £130k is actually not a bad price for what that GT4 is.

Discontinued model, full spec inc all high ticket items, delivery milage, PTS... find another.

If there was one very minor fly in the ointment, it would be the Xenon PDLS headlights rather than LED PDLS+, but that was no doubt because of the unavailability of LED when it was built.

[GT4P]

But would you pay it? Sorry £130k is 991.2 GT3 money!
And at £130k I know which one I would have !
Or perhaps a 718 GTs 4.0 at half the price!

[av185]

Reckon that Brewster green GT4 will actually hold its money very well primarily down to it being one of the last cars. Won't be another ice GT4 and the next GT4 won't be available for a good number of years anyway.

The other point is you are comparing the trade price of a lowly spec 5+yr old GT3 with an almost brand new retail price GT4 which really is apples and pears.

[DC-1]

ntiz said:

Collected my GT4 this afternoon and drove it the 300 miles home.

I’m a little bit worried about some of the sounds it is making hoping you guys can shed some light.

Between 2-3k it sounds it sounds quite chattery and a little rough, is this normal?

Has a pretty much constant high pitch whine almost like a super charger, got drowned out if you rev it a lot. But always there at a cruise got worse as I started to enjoy myself closer to home.

Just a bit worried could need a trip to OPC already.

All sounds normal to me. The GT4 is quite a noisy car inside and makes loads of little noises like whines, pings, etc.

[northernmedia]

av185 said:

Reckon that Brewster green GT4 will actually hold its money very well primarily down to it being one of the last cars. Won't be another ice GT4 and the next GT4 won't be available for a good number of years anyway.

The other point is you are comparing the trade price of a lowly spec 5+yr old GT3 with an almost brand new retail price GT4 which really is apples and pears.

Yep, low owner/mile, CS, PCCB, LWB etc are still around £145 - £150k

[LamedonM]

northernmedia said:

av185 said:

Reckon that Brewster green GT4 will actually hold its money very well primarily down to it being one of the last cars. Won't be another ice GT4 and the next GT4 won't be available for a good number of years anyway.

The other point is you are comparing the trade price of a lowly spec 5+yr old GT3 with an almost brand new retail price GT4 which really is apples and pears.

Yep, low owner/mile, CS, PCCB, LWB etc are still around £145 - £150k

I might be wrong, but I detect this assumption from you that we are only buying GT4 because we cannot afford GT3.

What about if we just prefer GT4s to GT3s because of engine layout and driving dynamics etc

[GT4RS]

GT4P said:

But would you pay it? Sorry £130k is 991.2 GT3 money!
And at £130k I know which one I would have !
Or perhaps a 718 GTs 4.0 at half the price!

Agree, having owned a lovely shark blue pdk gt4 I certainly wouldn’t pick it over a 991.2 gt3 for similar money.

991.2 gt3 and 992 gt3 cars are coming down in price and there are plenty available, there is no reason for the gt4 to be going up in price to £130k is just plain daft imo when early manual cars can be had for 80k to 90k.

Christ you can get a lovely 600lt for £130k to £140k