981 Boxster GTS…am I going mad?
Discussion
JeffC said:
it is certainly an unusual colour !
The dark blue car at £55k I noticed sold pretty sharpish , again the colour wouldn't be for me or the seats, having previously had a Spyder with buckets and both me and my better half both struggled with them for anything over an hours driving with back ache. I can imagine the seats would have been the selling point, rare in a GTS and a lot buyers will favour them.
Having lived with both, if a 981 Spyder and a GTS pdk were both for sale I would personally pick the GTS everytime, I only did a touch over a 1000miles in my Spyder in a year, they look and sound fantastic but the 3.8 motor and the manual gearbox just didn't float my boat at all, after the running in period I really struggled with it, the GTS 3.4 engine is much peakier and works really well with the pdk imho. in the year I owned the Spyder I did more miles in my old 1990 Honda CRX 1.6 Vtec than I did in the Porsche, which I think spoke volumes.
And that roof is a faff whereas the regular roof goes up in 8 seconds whilst you are doing 30mph….! The dark blue car at £55k I noticed sold pretty sharpish , again the colour wouldn't be for me or the seats, having previously had a Spyder with buckets and both me and my better half both struggled with them for anything over an hours driving with back ache. I can imagine the seats would have been the selling point, rare in a GTS and a lot buyers will favour them.
Having lived with both, if a 981 Spyder and a GTS pdk were both for sale I would personally pick the GTS everytime, I only did a touch over a 1000miles in my Spyder in a year, they look and sound fantastic but the 3.8 motor and the manual gearbox just didn't float my boat at all, after the running in period I really struggled with it, the GTS 3.4 engine is much peakier and works really well with the pdk imho. in the year I owned the Spyder I did more miles in my old 1990 Honda CRX 1.6 Vtec than I did in the Porsche, which I think spoke volumes.
GTS for me, even if they were the same price. Agreed, engine and gearbox are as sweet as anything. Spyder, it’s too low, too raw, for a non track car.
Looks great though. Roof down.
JeffC said:
My Spyder is PDK, I couldn't get a new Spyder so have been searching used for the last couple of years and dismissed so many big spec manual cars even walked away from a Speed yellow with every option I wanted and that was my chosen first choice colour. that's the issue with not getting a new allocation it's difficult to get something that ticks all the boxes you always have to compromise, the car I ended up with has most of the spec I was after but ideally i was hanging out for a yellow pdk but after 2 years and I never saw one come up.
Purely by chance I ended up with one in Python Green that had literally just landed in px the day I walked into my local opc to kill some time as I was waiting for a parts for a friend at the garage next door ! .
Worth mentioning i'm not against changing gear, all the other cars I own are manual and I wouldn't want them any them any other way but after previously having a 981S and then the Spyder in manual and then getting the GTS in pdk I knew what I wanted .
and yes the 981 sounds much better !!
Can we see some pics of your Spyder please? it sounds fantastic, never seen one in Python. Purely by chance I ended up with one in Python Green that had literally just landed in px the day I walked into my local opc to kill some time as I was waiting for a parts for a friend at the garage next door ! .
Worth mentioning i'm not against changing gear, all the other cars I own are manual and I wouldn't want them any them any other way but after previously having a 981S and then the Spyder in manual and then getting the GTS in pdk I knew what I wanted .
and yes the 981 sounds much better !!
I ordered a 718 Boxster S in python, but then realised the waiting list and the model change probably ,meant I’d never get one, (well, see earlier in the thread), so bought a 981 GTS in almost perfect spec for me.
Only thing missing was cruise control, which I want for motorway / autoroute / autostrada use. Had it retro fitted today, cost £600.
Spevs said:
The pricing madness continues
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307069...
8 year old car which was probably no more than this when new.
Mental but long May it continue. Rating as my best investment in recent years lol. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307069...
8 year old car which was probably no more than this when new.
rawenghey said:
Insanity.
Amazingly that £60k+ CGTS seems to have gone. No idea if it was sold and at what price. But yeah, if Porsche want to artificially inflate the market by listing them so high then crack on
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WBAC and co still only offering £40k flat for them though.
WBAC are not the market, they don’t judge the whole market place value, just a company that either wants your car or doesn’t. Amazingly that £60k+ CGTS seems to have gone. No idea if it was sold and at what price. But yeah, if Porsche want to artificially inflate the market by listing them so high then crack on
. WBAC and co still only offering £40k flat for them though.
Motorway would be a better bet.
The number of 981 GTS is limited and gradually reducing.
But OPC prices are insane.
JeffC said:
Yes 28,000 miles I had it up £47995 from late March til couple weeks ago.
What price did you get off motorway Jeff?Seller was asking 50k for the one I bought, I paid 47 but probably could have hot it for less. It was exact spec I was after (at the time, now I would want 18 way seats too).
Almost identical spec at OPC was £62k at the time.
JeffC said:
Curious to the thought process of hanging on for one sub 15,000 miles ? Surely you have missed out on 2 years of enjoying a car by dismissing others ? Not a criticism by the way just curious ?
Agree. I was going to keep my mileage on BGTS down as much as possible, just use it occasionally. It had 18k on it when I bought it last September. Spevs said:
Such a shame, I'm looking for a GTS with sub 15K miles, yours was too much miles for me but a great car I'm sure, I've been sitting on £50k now for 2 years for the right car, I did miss a 11k one in carmine red about a year ago but prices seen to be going mad now.
Well just came back from Northern Italy and now has 26k on it. Fek it, life is wayyyy toooo shhhoooorttttt.
Spevs said:
Yes it does, but I hate Black cars, had one once and never again, but thanks for pointing it out, oh, I'd better go and check my bank accounts to see if I can still afford one............
You probably can’t afford the costs of constantly cleaning the damn thing…..My mate had a black car and he reckoned that by the time you had finished cleaning it, you needed to start again. Only black cars I have had are work horses that didn’t need to look hood.
Boxsters are very easy to clean though, to be fair.
testdrive said:
Ohio7274 said:
Lol @ £48k for a ten year old Boxster.
Good luck scamming a buyer for that in today’s market…
I think people are confused by the GTS, compared to a nicely optioned S it is a bit of a scam but what's the alternative for the overall experience, a 4 yr old flat 4 without the soundtrack, or a 3 yr old 4.0l with only some of it for 75k?Good luck scamming a buyer for that in today’s market…
It is the pinnacle Boxster/Cayman model, if you regard the GT4 and Spyder as separate specialist platforms (which they are).
I think the Boxster GTS does particularly well as the Spyder is too extreme especially for the UK. I love the Spyder but could not live with the roof in the Uk as a car for all seasons. Or any season looking out the window this morning.
Good marketing from Porsche. Will we ever see a massive realignment of values downwards for the 981 GTS? No I don’t think so. There are very few of them and that number cannot grow. Eventually, 4.0s will start dropping down and will put the squeeze on 3.4s. But it will always be a special car.
jimbo761 said:
Spevs said:
I expect the 4 cylinder 718's to depreciate to values below much older comparable 981 models.
I’ve been hearing this since I bought my hated four cylinder 718 back in 2016. Wbac this morning are still quoting me >30k despite the 60k mileage, incredible really. Not sure there’s much if any difference with comparable 981s.
Apart from the lack of steering wheel controls on the 981 GTS there’s nothing I’m missing from the 4.0. Don’t need more power. The lines on the 981 are more pleasing to my eye.
I dont use the satnav, and when listening to music it’s all on Spotify on my iPhone 13 max which is fine positioned next to the screen anyway. Waze for maps and all important speed camera info is invaluable.
I dont use the satnav, and when listening to music it’s all on Spotify on my iPhone 13 max which is fine positioned next to the screen anyway. Waze for maps and all important speed camera info is invaluable.
Edited by TTmonkey on Thursday 13th July 19:23
Spevs said:
cseven said:
Ive just gone 981 s to GT4 and there is no way the GTS is worth Spyder money....just spend the 5k more and get the Spyder the 981 version is slightly softer then the GT4 and amazing on road if its a weekend toy.
There is only 2K between these two currently on AThttps://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307069...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303165...
Only an idiot would buy the white GTS at the dealer for that money. I went to look at it when £62k, bought an almost identical car for £15k less privately. Dealer was offering 7.9% apr too. Private sale with a car loan at 3.2% meant it was a no brainier for me.
The Spyder is a good price, but comes without the dealer wrap of OPC warranty. However that’s a good price for a future classic. I’d query the transferable warranty? I thought it was only transferable between private sales, if you sell the car into the trade and they resell it, the warranty is voided? That was my understanding anyway.
Edited by TTmonkey on Sunday 16th July 12:26
Koln-RS said:
Looks like quite a nice example at the right price.
However, do think it’s potential saleability would be easier with full OPC SH, Porsche Extended Warranty and without the after market suspension.
I don’t understand why an owner who so obviously searched for the exact low mileage/spec example that he wanted, and spent time and money on looking after it so well, would not get the last service done by OPC. However, do think it’s potential saleability would be easier with full OPC SH, Porsche Extended Warranty and without the after market suspension.
Any potential owner wanting to put it back under Porsche warranty would need the inspection, rectification of non standard changes (springs) and then a repeat service.
It’s a lovely car but I don’t understand his decisions. It might even be worth while putting it back to standard to sell. The non standard springs damages its saleability and value. How much would these cost to replace (as it’s labour only he has the springs).
cseven said:
MrVert said:
It’ll be interesting to see where this ends price wise…
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2016-porsche-9...
Got to 47,250 (so 50k with fee) and unsold.....wonder what the seller's reserve was?https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2016-porsche-9...
Spevs said:
5 plus owners, what does that mean? I personally don’t care how many owners a well looked after car has, but I’d like an accurate number if I was buying. Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff