Centre Locks 991 Turbo S

Centre Locks 991 Turbo S

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rufmeister

Original Poster:

1,333 posts

122 months

Thursday 12th January 2023
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Would a lack of centre locks detract you from buying a 991 Turbo S?

Seems majority have them. Personally prefer the look, but wondered if it was a “must have” when considering a purchase.

c4sman

759 posts

154 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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CLs are marmite for many and most seem to dislike them so cannot see that as a downside. I personally love them and know how to deal with them
But I’m in the minority

Chubbyross

4,548 posts

85 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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I had them on my 997.2. Once I’d bought the right torque bar and taken them off once (to apply a ceramic coating) I could get them on and off in half the time to do normal wheels. I’d happily have them again as they look epic.

Greedydog

889 posts

195 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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I had them on a 997 GTS, never again. I had a puncture and it was a total circus versus what would have been a simple process with normal wheels. I appreciate some love them and purchase the necessary tools, but for me they are form over function on a road car.

Slaav

4,255 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Greedydog said:
I had them on a 997 GTS, never again. I had a puncture and it was a total circus versus what would have been a simple process with normal wheels. I appreciate some love them and purchase the necessary tools, but for me they are form over function on a road car.
The Owner/Principal of a well know Indie said pretty much this exact point to me.

In summary, getting a puncture with CLs in deepest France on a weekend trip (his example) teaches you the hard way!

I deliberately swerved them but do like how they look.

Ps - I appreciate that you can buy and keep the correct tools in the car but there is limited space as it is wink

Jim300186

177 posts

115 months

Saturday 28th January 2023
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I loved them on my turbo, and just carried a digital torque head in the boot so never any dramas. Most garages would have a 3/4 bar or a step too 3/4 and a scaffold tube, so no dramas really and they look great!

AMTony

1,077 posts

167 months

Saturday 28th January 2023
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Why not just buy a torque wrench and carry in the frunk of the car - its that easy!

Pflanzgarten

3,942 posts

25 months

Saturday 28th January 2023
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Slaav said:
The Owner/Principal of a well know Indie said pretty much this exact point to me.

In summary, getting a puncture with CLs in deepest France on a weekend trip (his example) teaches you the hard way!

I deliberately swerved them but do like how they look.
Same thing happened to my mate in France! Stuck for 48 hours while Porsche flatbed’d him to another country.

c4sman

759 posts

154 months

Saturday 28th January 2023
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AMTony said:
Why not just buy a torque wrench and carry in the frunk of the car - its that easy!
Basically what I’ve done with minimal space impact
[url]
|https://thumbsnap.com/vh1wiiKJ[/url]

AMTony

1,077 posts

167 months

Saturday 28th January 2023
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Got my inspiration from you!
Punctures with centrelocks not a problem.

finmac

1,515 posts

238 months

Sunday 29th January 2023
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c4sman said:
AMTony said:
Why not just buy a torque wrench and carry in the frunk of the car - its that easy!
Basically what I’ve done with minimal space impact
[url]
|https://thumbsnap.com/vh1wiiKJ[/url]
Great photo/planning. I’m impressed! Any chance of listing the actual parts required please (I have a centre lock equipped car on order for delivery later this year). Cheers

IMac

72 posts

275 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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I agree they certainly look good. However they are a pain to have on a car for the reasons already mentioned plus;

1. There is a technique to removing and replacing the wheels that if not followed can damage the ceramic disks. Not all cars with CL have ceramic disks but this that do can be susceptible to damage when the wheel is removed/replaced.

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2. The nuts are very sensitive to the agents they are cleaned with. if in doubt, look at the number of GTS with milky coloured CL nuts contrasting against the black wheels. This colour change can happen very quickly. Perhaps less obvious against a silver wheel, but it would still annoy me. Despite claims that this is not a warranty matter, it has been handled as such and there is a warranty price on the Porsche system. I do not posit this to be relied on as one were replaced when the vehicle was quite new, some of these earlier cars are now getting on.

3. Porsche warranty, this now specifically excludes items that function as intended but may lack their original appearance. This has wider implications than CL wheels.

From my experience of punctures and even the problems of planned tyre changes, CLs are something I would avoid in future.





Schuey_911

817 posts

72 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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So if one happens to get a puncture and you don't have the equipment, then what's the best thing to do?

Call Porsche Assistance I suppose and wait to be recovered?

IMac

72 posts

275 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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It's a flat bed recovery. Although from my experience, this is unlikely to run smoothly! Not all flat beds will take a 911(certainly with GTS suspension), as the overhang at the front will snag when they try to load it. So, wait for another more suitable vehicle to be located/dispatched/arrive/load...... you can see how a simple puncture can slowly turn into a full day event.

I was fortunate never to have a puncture anywhere remote where I can only imagine the issues would be exacerbated.

Edited by IMac on Tuesday 31st January 13:59

Schuey_911

817 posts

72 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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IMac said:
It's a flat bed recovery. Although from my experience, this is unlikely to run smoothly! Not all flat beds will take a 911(certainly with GTS suspension), as the overhand at the front will snag when they try to load it. so, wait for another more suitable vehicle to be located/dispatched/arrive/load...... you can see how a simple puncture can slowly turn into a full day event.

I was fortunate never to have a puncture anywhere remote where I can only image the issues would be exacerbated.
Thanks IMac. I already experienced a puncture in my first week of ownership. Thankfully it was a slow puncture that I realised while car was in my garage. Phoned my local OPC, pumped up tyre a bit extra and was able to drive it there and they sorted me out.