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Vipergreen said:
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£50k over list, I think there are now 6 for sale and don’t think any have sold. If more come to the uk than expected they could be at list by Xmas
They're being chopped in around list.£50k over list, I think there are now 6 for sale and don’t think any have sold. If more come to the uk than expected they could be at list by Xmas
Vipergreen said:
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
£50k over list, I think there are now 6 for sale and don’t think any have sold. If more come to the uk than expected they could be at list by Xmas
That has dropped by 10% (£24k) in just over a week….seems as though prices will follow the same pattern as the GT4RS. An even more limited market I would have thought.£50k over list, I think there are now 6 for sale and don’t think any have sold. If more come to the uk than expected they could be at list by Xmas
Had a drive of one at PEC both on track and road.
Suspension felt no harsher than the standard Spyder perfectly road friendly, don’t feel lift is essential but will probably still spec.
Over 4k it’s very noisy but in a good way. Motorway cruising in auto certainly quiet enough.
Didn’t play with the roof but the option to remove just the rear section like the 987 is great in my opinion.
Great car
Suspension felt no harsher than the standard Spyder perfectly road friendly, don’t feel lift is essential but will probably still spec.
Over 4k it’s very noisy but in a good way. Motorway cruising in auto certainly quiet enough.
Didn’t play with the roof but the option to remove just the rear section like the 987 is great in my opinion.
Great car
I've locked in my spec which sadly is close to the John Major comment as PTS wasn't available. Thinking I may add some light gold(ish) decals to brighten it up a little!
Certainly going to be interesting going to this from my current manual Amethyst Spyder.
Not gonna lie I am a bit nervous about the swap as my car feels pretty much perfect at the mo, JCR exhaust, full geo done etc. There's a likely chance i'll run the SRS for 2yrs then want to get my old car back!
Certainly going to be interesting going to this from my current manual Amethyst Spyder.
Not gonna lie I am a bit nervous about the swap as my car feels pretty much perfect at the mo, JCR exhaust, full geo done etc. There's a likely chance i'll run the SRS for 2yrs then want to get my old car back!
Please write a brief comparison between the 2 above (both look great), problem is when you are at 200k levels you can choose pretty much between any used super car (within reason).
I really like the new boxster spyder rs, but what is the rough price of a decent spec though? 150/160k?
Anything above that, just does not make sense in my eyes, as there is too much else to choose from (ok maybe used, but that would be from a main dealer with a proper warranty etc).
600LT Spyder / 488 Spyder / Performante etc all would feel more special at this level.
I am hoping the prices drop a bit in the next year or so, and a few people go for gentian blue or gt silver as these look a great car, and I would like to own one down the road at some point.
Well done to the current owners, and please post up some pics once collected..
I really like the new boxster spyder rs, but what is the rough price of a decent spec though? 150/160k?
Anything above that, just does not make sense in my eyes, as there is too much else to choose from (ok maybe used, but that would be from a main dealer with a proper warranty etc).
600LT Spyder / 488 Spyder / Performante etc all would feel more special at this level.
I am hoping the prices drop a bit in the next year or so, and a few people go for gentian blue or gt silver as these look a great car, and I would like to own one down the road at some point.
Well done to the current owners, and please post up some pics once collected..
I think I spec'd mine to about £140k last autumn when slots were flying about (not that I was successful of course) and I thought that a really nice balance.
As for feeling special, we're all very different. I tried Ferrari and McLaren last summer when we were looking and as lovely as some of those fantastic cars are and yes, of course they are special. But, a special Porsche is still a very special thing despite it being one of thousands of Boxsters out there.
I met some petrolheads on a night out Friday, when they found out what I drove (A Manthey GT3) they couldn't have been more excited, wanting to come out and take a look over it. Same with one of my daughters school friends when he (at 5 years old) found out there's a 911 in town. Great stuff.
Special Porsches are special things, the Spyder RS will be a real niche over the years. If they ever built a manual version it would be off the scale for me.
As for feeling special, we're all very different. I tried Ferrari and McLaren last summer when we were looking and as lovely as some of those fantastic cars are and yes, of course they are special. But, a special Porsche is still a very special thing despite it being one of thousands of Boxsters out there.
I met some petrolheads on a night out Friday, when they found out what I drove (A Manthey GT3) they couldn't have been more excited, wanting to come out and take a look over it. Same with one of my daughters school friends when he (at 5 years old) found out there's a 911 in town. Great stuff.
Special Porsches are special things, the Spyder RS will be a real niche over the years. If they ever built a manual version it would be off the scale for me.
Hello gents,
It would be marvelous if one of you early European owners could do a full review of your SRS? Those of us in America and elsewhere are starving for lack of information and reviews about the SRS.
My Spyder RS began production today, but European delivery isn't until the end of August. Myself and everyone on rennlist are quite eager to read the reviews of European SRS owners that have taken delivery of their cars.
Cheers
It would be marvelous if one of you early European owners could do a full review of your SRS? Those of us in America and elsewhere are starving for lack of information and reviews about the SRS.
My Spyder RS began production today, but European delivery isn't until the end of August. Myself and everyone on rennlist are quite eager to read the reviews of European SRS owners that have taken delivery of their cars.
Cheers
Here are my thoughts... I received my PTS SRS in December and have now done 1350 miles. I have a 718 Spyder and GT4RS amongst other stuff. The first thing I did was put on PS4s as the weather was soo bad. My initial thoughts were that it was a very soft and compliant ride, soaking up potholes very well which makes it perfectly suited for the UK B-roads however this did came at a cost and that was the front was quite floaty and a little understeery which wasn’t ideal however the steering was still direct and sharp, just not so much when pushing on into corners. After 700miles or so, the car went to String Theory for a geo and alignment. After their magic, the car felt (and looked) much much better as they put in some camber and reduced the ride height (the stock front end sits noticeably higher than the 4RS) and hence, dialled out much of the understeer. This won’t be my track car and so I didn’t go with a very aggressive set up but I suspect others may want to. I feel I have a very good all-rounder now and suits the character of the car. The exhaust, at low RPM, is quieter than the 4RS which I’m sure some will prefer and the tone in my opinion is better than the 4RS as it feels less ‘tinny’ however I have now put on a JCR silenced rear on and it sounds 100% amazing as you’d would expect. Its not overly louder, just gives a much better quality of sound. The roof was probably my biggest concern and for the first couple of months, I was quite disheartened with it as it was a faff as it would literally take 4-5 minutes to get it up or down – however, I am very pleased to say that after some practice and patience, it is actually pretty straightforward. I have no concerns at all with the roof and if anyone else does, its because they haven’t given it time to learn and practice. Yes, you still need to account for 2-3 minutes to get it up or down, but its by no means hassle – well, not much more than the 718 Spyder is anyway. I get that all of the above is subjective - its just my view about the car which I think is outstanding and most people will be very very pleased when they get theirs
I should probably mention the GT3 engine too lol. It's phenomenal in this car... its massively intoxicating and hugely addictive
I should probably mention the GT3 engine too lol. It's phenomenal in this car... its massively intoxicating and hugely addictive
Edited by 23wn_4f2 on Tuesday 9th April 12:45
I can give you my initial impressions.
I Picked the car up mid December and was in storage until the 1st of April the weather over here has been pretty bad, the car has done 500 run in miles in the last week so my impressions are not fully formed yet. I usually base my own reviews on what I call the LSD scale. Looks, Sound and Drivability (LSD), so -
Looks - subjective I know everyone will have their own opinion, I like its stance on the road, the carbon touches, it look more aggressive that the 981, 718 Spyder’s and importantly the proportions look just right, great looking car as are all the Spyders. Some of the modern Porsche’s look too big for our uk roads, just my opinion.
Sound - Wow!!!, you watch the few YouTube videos that are out there and it sounds great but nothing prepares you for the assault on your ears when you sit in the driving seat and start pushing through the gears, absolutely fantastic, there is a whole range of noises to be experienced you just don’t hear on the videos. Is it too much for long cross continent drives possibly, but for a daily run out on B roads with friends or on your own its an absolute hoot and i’ve not had it to 9000rpm yet. Not much noise under 3000rpm if you are light on the throttle.
Drivability - brakes, its on ceramics, I am used to the ceramics on my 991.2 GT3 and the RS feels sharper you don’t have to push as hard to get the initial bite, stopping power great.
Suspension, slightly stiffer than the previous Spyder’s but very compliant on uk B roads which can be challenging, so no complaints here rides great for what it is, an RS car.
Steering, sharp off the centre point, turns in great can be a bit twitchy coming out of the corners, not pushed it hard enough to be able to give a full response yet its on Dunlop Race 2’s and still cold over here but initial impression are good, will be going in shortly for a full geo set up.
Engine and drive train, it’s a GT3 engine don’t need to say much more, shorter gear ratios with the PDK lightning quick, gave me a fright first time I planted the throttle to over take, the bark and volume in my right ear when it dropped a couple of gears wow, great when you know its coming.
The hood, yes it can be described as a pain, but once you have done it a few times you get used to it, I see it as the price you pay for driving one of the best sports car on the road today. Wind noise is more that the other Spyder’s both with the hood fully up and with the sunsail, I think the air whistles more round the airbox and fins. I have driven the car in heavy rain with just the sunsail on and can confirm the water does not come into the cabin albeit the car was not stopped at any point during the downpour
Great car look forward to exploring its potential more and scores very high on my LSD scale
I Picked the car up mid December and was in storage until the 1st of April the weather over here has been pretty bad, the car has done 500 run in miles in the last week so my impressions are not fully formed yet. I usually base my own reviews on what I call the LSD scale. Looks, Sound and Drivability (LSD), so -
Looks - subjective I know everyone will have their own opinion, I like its stance on the road, the carbon touches, it look more aggressive that the 981, 718 Spyder’s and importantly the proportions look just right, great looking car as are all the Spyders. Some of the modern Porsche’s look too big for our uk roads, just my opinion.
Sound - Wow!!!, you watch the few YouTube videos that are out there and it sounds great but nothing prepares you for the assault on your ears when you sit in the driving seat and start pushing through the gears, absolutely fantastic, there is a whole range of noises to be experienced you just don’t hear on the videos. Is it too much for long cross continent drives possibly, but for a daily run out on B roads with friends or on your own its an absolute hoot and i’ve not had it to 9000rpm yet. Not much noise under 3000rpm if you are light on the throttle.
Drivability - brakes, its on ceramics, I am used to the ceramics on my 991.2 GT3 and the RS feels sharper you don’t have to push as hard to get the initial bite, stopping power great.
Suspension, slightly stiffer than the previous Spyder’s but very compliant on uk B roads which can be challenging, so no complaints here rides great for what it is, an RS car.
Steering, sharp off the centre point, turns in great can be a bit twitchy coming out of the corners, not pushed it hard enough to be able to give a full response yet its on Dunlop Race 2’s and still cold over here but initial impression are good, will be going in shortly for a full geo set up.
Engine and drive train, it’s a GT3 engine don’t need to say much more, shorter gear ratios with the PDK lightning quick, gave me a fright first time I planted the throttle to over take, the bark and volume in my right ear when it dropped a couple of gears wow, great when you know its coming.
The hood, yes it can be described as a pain, but once you have done it a few times you get used to it, I see it as the price you pay for driving one of the best sports car on the road today. Wind noise is more that the other Spyder’s both with the hood fully up and with the sunsail, I think the air whistles more round the airbox and fins. I have driven the car in heavy rain with just the sunsail on and can confirm the water does not come into the cabin albeit the car was not stopped at any point during the downpour
Great car look forward to exploring its potential more and scores very high on my LSD scale
Too early for me to “review” the car as I only got it today and it needs running in.
However, the ride is so much more suited to B roads than the 4RS was. You can tell that almost immediately. I have so far found the car not to understeer particularly but it is early days. Mine is on the Michelins.
The induction sound from behind your head is great. Some fragile souls felt their 4RS’s were too loud. The Spyder has this covered, either because the roof is off or because you have some fabric “sound deadening” with the roof on. But you still get that epic induction sound track to accompany you.
Looking forward to putting more miles on the car and getting to know it properly.
However, the ride is so much more suited to B roads than the 4RS was. You can tell that almost immediately. I have so far found the car not to understeer particularly but it is early days. Mine is on the Michelins.
The induction sound from behind your head is great. Some fragile souls felt their 4RS’s were too loud. The Spyder has this covered, either because the roof is off or because you have some fabric “sound deadening” with the roof on. But you still get that epic induction sound track to accompany you.
Looking forward to putting more miles on the car and getting to know it properly.
Great to see quite a few Spyder RS filtering through now. Interested to understand how big the waiting list is/are there many people “on a promise” or waiting patiently in line? If it’s true they are planning building the SRS till MY2026 then suspect most folks who want one should actually get one….
av185 said:
Think it would be reasonable to assume the Spyder RS will be well under £200k by Autumn especially seeing as it is subject to seasonal demand.
just checked tonight and10 SRS for sale now on Autotrader, spread from £209- £225k but realistically who do the sellers think is the target buyer? With what else you can buy at that price I think you would really have to want one badly to pay anything like that money . I have no doubt the SRS is a great car and those that have an allocation are sitting pretty with a car at list but at those figures, at a third of the cost, in my head it shows how much of a bargain a standard Spyder is.
I have said this on the csc chat, I am sure some of us currently with a 718 Spyder would love to own one, I for one would but with no chance of an allocation for a new car , buying used is the only option I have , taking the £225k OPC car , I would need to hand them £150,000 and my 2022 Spyder PDK, basically giving my car away, I don't see any Spyder owner jumping at that deal anytime soon, I could keep my car and have a Mclaren 720s for the same outlay which if I do anything is likely the path I will go down.
going forward I can't see anything other than prices falling from the crazy overs currently asked. There does seem to be quite a few cars coming through and people getting allocations so I will be surprised if they do not follow the pattern that the GT4RS did.
Will be interesting to revisit this later in the year.
JeffC said:
av185 said:
Think it would be reasonable to assume the Spyder RS will be well under £200k by Autumn especially seeing as it is subject to seasonal demand.
just checked tonight and10 SRS for sale now on Autotrader, spread from £209- £225k but realistically who do the sellers think is the target buyer? With what else you can buy at that price I think you would really have to want one badly to pay anything like that money . I have no doubt the SRS is a great car and those that have an allocation are sitting pretty with a car at list but at those figures, at a third of the cost, in my head it shows how much of a bargain a standard Spyder is.
I have said this on the csc chat, I am sure some of us currently with a 718 Spyder would love to own one, I for one would but with no chance of an allocation for a new car , buying used is the only option I have , taking the £225k OPC car , I would need to hand them £150,000 and my 2022 Spyder PDK, basically giving my car away, I don't see any Spyder owner jumping at that deal anytime soon, I could keep my car and have a Mclaren 720s for the same outlay which if I do anything is likely the path I will go down.
going forward I can't see anything other than prices falling from the crazy overs currently asked. There does seem to be quite a few cars coming through and people getting allocations so I will be surprised if they do not follow the pattern that the GT4RS did.
Will be interesting to revisit this later in the year.
I would be amazed if many (any really) will pay the crazy overs that people are chancing their hands with just now. The SRS will I strongly suspect follow the GT4RS downward trajectory to bringing it much closer to list over the coming months. As such the vast bulk of buyers will hang tight
finmac said:
I would be amazed if many (any really) will pay the crazy overs that people are chancing their hands with just now. The SRS will I strongly suspect follow the GT4RS downward trajectory to bringing it much closer to list over the coming months. As such the vast bulk of buyers will hang tight
I suspect most would be on SOR so no risk to the sellers and it's free advertising for the dealers that have them up for saleCobra28 said:
I can give you my initial impressions.
I Picked the car up mid December and was in storage until the 1st of April the weather over here has been pretty bad, the car has done 500 run in miles in the last week so my impressions are not fully formed yet. I usually base my own reviews on what I call the LSD scale. Looks, Sound and Drivability (LSD), so -
Looks - subjective I know everyone will have their own opinion, I like its stance on the road, the carbon touches, it look more aggressive that the 981, 718 Spyder’s and importantly the proportions look just right, great looking car as are all the Spyders. Some of the modern Porsche’s look too big for our uk roads, just my opinion.
Sound - Wow!!!, you watch the few YouTube videos that are out there and it sounds great but nothing prepares you for the assault on your ears when you sit in the driving seat and start pushing through the gears, absolutely fantastic, there is a whole range of noises to be experienced you just don’t hear on the videos. Is it too much for long cross continent drives possibly, but for a daily run out on B roads with friends or on your own its an absolute hoot and i’ve not had it to 9000rpm yet. Not much noise under 3000rpm if you are light on the throttle.
Drivability - brakes, its on ceramics, I am used to the ceramics on my 991.2 GT3 and the RS feels sharper you don’t have to push as hard to get the initial bite, stopping power great.
Suspension, slightly stiffer than the previous Spyder’s but very compliant on uk B roads which can be challenging, so no complaints here rides great for what it is, an RS car.
Steering, sharp off the centre point, turns in great can be a bit twitchy coming out of the corners, not pushed it hard enough to be able to give a full response yet its on Dunlop Race 2’s and still cold over here but initial impression are good, will be going in shortly for a full geo set up.
Engine and drive train, it’s a GT3 engine don’t need to say much more, shorter gear ratios with the PDK lightning quick, gave me a fright first time I planted the throttle to over take, the bark and volume in my right ear when it dropped a couple of gears wow, great when you know its coming.
The hood, yes it can be described as a pain, but once you have done it a few times you get used to it, I see it as the price you pay for driving one of the best sports car on the road today. Wind noise is more that the other Spyder’s both with the hood fully up and with the sunsail, I think the air whistles more round the airbox and fins. I have driven the car in heavy rain with just the sunsail on and can confirm the water does not come into the cabin albeit the car was not stopped at any point during the downpour
Great car look forward to exploring its potential more and scores very high on my LSD scale
Thank you both very much for the review of your cars. I Picked the car up mid December and was in storage until the 1st of April the weather over here has been pretty bad, the car has done 500 run in miles in the last week so my impressions are not fully formed yet. I usually base my own reviews on what I call the LSD scale. Looks, Sound and Drivability (LSD), so -
Looks - subjective I know everyone will have their own opinion, I like its stance on the road, the carbon touches, it look more aggressive that the 981, 718 Spyder’s and importantly the proportions look just right, great looking car as are all the Spyders. Some of the modern Porsche’s look too big for our uk roads, just my opinion.
Sound - Wow!!!, you watch the few YouTube videos that are out there and it sounds great but nothing prepares you for the assault on your ears when you sit in the driving seat and start pushing through the gears, absolutely fantastic, there is a whole range of noises to be experienced you just don’t hear on the videos. Is it too much for long cross continent drives possibly, but for a daily run out on B roads with friends or on your own its an absolute hoot and i’ve not had it to 9000rpm yet. Not much noise under 3000rpm if you are light on the throttle.
Drivability - brakes, its on ceramics, I am used to the ceramics on my 991.2 GT3 and the RS feels sharper you don’t have to push as hard to get the initial bite, stopping power great.
Suspension, slightly stiffer than the previous Spyder’s but very compliant on uk B roads which can be challenging, so no complaints here rides great for what it is, an RS car.
Steering, sharp off the centre point, turns in great can be a bit twitchy coming out of the corners, not pushed it hard enough to be able to give a full response yet its on Dunlop Race 2’s and still cold over here but initial impression are good, will be going in shortly for a full geo set up.
Engine and drive train, it’s a GT3 engine don’t need to say much more, shorter gear ratios with the PDK lightning quick, gave me a fright first time I planted the throttle to over take, the bark and volume in my right ear when it dropped a couple of gears wow, great when you know its coming.
The hood, yes it can be described as a pain, but once you have done it a few times you get used to it, I see it as the price you pay for driving one of the best sports car on the road today. Wind noise is more that the other Spyder’s both with the hood fully up and with the sunsail, I think the air whistles more round the airbox and fins. I have driven the car in heavy rain with just the sunsail on and can confirm the water does not come into the cabin albeit the car was not stopped at any point during the downpour
Great car look forward to exploring its potential more and scores very high on my LSD scale
Great to hear that she is as impressive to see in the flesh as one would hope. I'm also excited for a fun sports car that is appropriately sized. 992 GT cars are just getting huge.
Also great to hear the PCCBs work well, and the engine! Just exciting that they were able to fit a GT3/RS engine and with a lightening fast 991.2 RS PDK box.
Sounds like handling is good but could be tweaked a bit based on driver preferences.
My Spyder RS finally began production yesterday and I'm extremely excited to have a go later this summer via European Delivery!
Edited by Bedrock on Saturday 13th April 15:48
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JeffC said:
just checked tonight and10 SRS for sale now on Autotrader, spread from £209- £225k but realistically who do the sellers think is the target buyer? With what else you can buy at that price I think you would really have to want one badly to pay anything like that money .
I have no doubt the SRS is a great car and those that have an allocation are sitting pretty with a car at list but at those figures, at a third of the cost, in my head it shows how much of a bargain a standard Spyder is.
I have said this on the csc chat, I am sure some of us currently with a 718 Spyder would love to own one, I for one would but with no chance of an allocation for a new car , buying used is the only option I have , taking the £225k OPC car , I would need to hand them £150,000 and my 2022 Spyder PDK, basically giving my car away, I don't see any Spyder owner jumping at that deal anytime soon, I could keep my car and have a Mclaren 720s for the same outlay which if I do anything is likely the path I will go down.
going forward I can't see anything other than prices falling from the crazy overs currently asked. There does seem to be quite a few cars coming through and people getting allocations so I will be surprised if they do not follow the pattern that the GT4RS did.
Will be interesting to revisit this later in the year.
My PTS Spyder finally began production yesterday. Here in america most have to also pay a dealer markup. My dealer markup was actually on the lower side compared to many, but still my PTS WP Spyder RS will cost $245,000 or £197,000. I have no doubt the SRS is a great car and those that have an allocation are sitting pretty with a car at list but at those figures, at a third of the cost, in my head it shows how much of a bargain a standard Spyder is.
I have said this on the csc chat, I am sure some of us currently with a 718 Spyder would love to own one, I for one would but with no chance of an allocation for a new car , buying used is the only option I have , taking the £225k OPC car , I would need to hand them £150,000 and my 2022 Spyder PDK, basically giving my car away, I don't see any Spyder owner jumping at that deal anytime soon, I could keep my car and have a Mclaren 720s for the same outlay which if I do anything is likely the path I will go down.
going forward I can't see anything other than prices falling from the crazy overs currently asked. There does seem to be quite a few cars coming through and people getting allocations so I will be surprised if they do not follow the pattern that the GT4RS did.
Will be interesting to revisit this later in the year.
It is worth it to me to pay this much for the Spyder RS because mine is a custom personal build, PTS, european delivery, and the Spyder RS is the end of an era, and there will be no cars like it again. And the SRS comes with warranty compared to used supercars.
That said, I agree that used SRS prices will drop later this year and particularly next year. I would not pay £197,000 for someone else's spec.
If I'm paying for a used car anyway, then I would likely instead buy a 458 spider or 720s spider.
Edited by Bedrock on Saturday 13th April 18:03
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