Finally got a 718 GT4!

[fridaypassion]

Well they are but not necessarily just for braking performance it's the unsprung weight that really releases the steering feel. That's science. If course on track you can lean on them all day without a grumble or fade.

[F12DDE]

fridaypassion said:

Finally managed to get on track for the first time yesterday a peril of buying in December! got to Donington with RMA. Settled into it really quickly the EXC/TC was off on the second session such was my confidence in the handling. Brakes as ever were absolutely solid all day the PCCB is an essential option on these cars imho. I didn't get the chance to get on the Hunter before this trackday so the car is completely stock at the moment. The lack of camber on the front really shows with a bit of understeer on the GP circuit hairpin. This same lack of camber does really make the steering very nice on the road though!

So a good day its not the quickest thing in the world but certainly entertaining. I'm thinking of having the OPF bypass pipes I have been told they release a fair bit of power on the 718 does anyone have any feedback on this?

I done Donny GP last year in mine, really enjoyed it. I haven't gone all out on modifications on mine, but I have had some camber shims put on the front to allow for some increased camber adjustment, might be placebo affect but I feel like they really helped the handling. I was going to do OPF delete as well, but in the end I decided against it as I couldn't be bothered with the agg it would most likely bring, and would probably break noise restrictions on track as previously mentioned.

[cseven]

QQ, are you guys insured on track with your current provider or a 3rd party insurer or do you not bother (I'm in two minds atm myself)?

[honda_exige]

cseven said:

QQ, are you guys insured on track with your current provider or a 3rd party insurer or do you not bother (I'm in two minds atm myself)?

I'm insured via ClassicLine road/track policy. Cheap but an accident on track does affect no claims and has to be declared going forward I believe for all road policies.

Stand alone more expensive but crashes have no bearing on your road policy.

That's what I've been told anyway.

[fridaypassion]

I dont have insurance no. I take it fairly steady in the more expensive cars and stick to the lower number days. With RM there are about half the number of cars on track normally. It as a fully booked day but not a queue all day. A few red flags (because Donington) but generally quiet out on track.

[Armitage.Shanks]

honda_exige said:

Stand alone more expensive but crashes have no bearing on your road policy.

I'd check that because if you make a claim arising from an accident it may go on MID which is searched by insurers as part of policy acceptance. That's why non-fault claims go on there and still affect renewals as you have been identified as a 'risk'

[reddiesel]

fridaypassion said:

I dont have insurance no. I take it fairly steady in the more expensive cars and stick to the lower number days. With RM there are about half the number of cars on track normally. It as a fully booked day but not a queue all day. A few red flags (because Donington) but generally quiet out on track.

Fair play to you but you boys are the reason I steered clear of a GT4 and ended up with a GTS . Arse ragged out of the car whilst some bloke goes racing on the cheap then back into the OPC network and sold with one careful owner to some unsuspecting Buyer . Don't think I necessarily disapprove , perhaps we should start a Thread on the perils of buying a used GT4

[TDT]

You found your set of these in the frunk, right?!

FML.

[honda_exige]

reddiesel said:

fridaypassion said:

I dont have insurance no. I take it fairly steady in the more expensive cars and stick to the lower number days. With RM there are about half the number of cars on track normally. It as a fully booked day but not a queue all day. A few red flags (because Donington) but generally quiet out on track.

Fair play to you but you boys are the reason I steered clear of a GT4 and ended up with a GTS . Arse ragged out of the car whilst some bloke goes racing on the cheap then back into the OPC network and sold with one careful owner to some unsuspecting Buyer . Don't think I necessarily disapprove , perhaps we should start a Thread on the perils of buying a used GT4

Your GTS might have been one of the Porsche Experience Centre ones

But yeah but not buying the car you really wanted because it might have been on track at some point is absolutely wild.

[n12maser]

Often the track cars are better looked-after than the non track ones.

Maybe a few more stone chips. God forbid!

[fridaypassion]

reddiesel said:

Fair play to you but you boys are the reason I steered clear of a GT4 and ended up with a GTS . Arse ragged out of the car whilst some bloke goes racing on the cheap then back into the OPC network and sold with one careful owner to some unsuspecting Buyer . Don't think I necessarily disapprove , perhaps we should start a Thread on the perils of buying a used GT4

There are plenty of people that don't track them each to their own but it's a GT4 they are supposed to be hammered around track. Not all of them will be far from it actually. One with sofas is unlikely to be tracked I would say maybe have a close look at club sport cars with steel brakes that has to be the hardcore track drivers weapon of choice.

Edited by fridaypassion on Tuesday 12th March 20:16

[ChrisW.]

reddiesel said:

fridaypassion said:

I dont have insurance no. I take it fairly steady in the more expensive cars and stick to the lower number days. With RM there are about half the number of cars on track normally. It as a fully booked day but not a queue all day. A few red flags (because Donington) but generally quiet out on track.

Fair play to you but you boys are the reason I steered clear of a GT4 and ended up with a GTS . Arse ragged out of the car whilst some bloke goes racing on the cheap then back into the OPC network and sold with one careful owner to some unsuspecting Buyer . Don't think I necessarily disapprove , perhaps we should start a Thread on the perils of buying a used GT4

Didn't you know that porsche built these cars for "Rebels (to) Rebel On" ?

I've recently sold my GT4 which had done around 70 track days, used no oil between 3,500 mile oil changes, compression tested to within 1% across all cylinders, and passed a three hour detailed inspection by RPM Technik with flying colours ... total 35,000 miles in my ownership over eight years.

Porsche build VERY good cars ....

[LiamH66]

Spot on @ChrisW. I have done more than a few, but not loads of track days with my 981 GT4 so far. I have only replaced tyres, brake pads and discs so far, with genuine Porsche parts for the brakes. Doesn't use much oil, doesn't get too hot, never had the grease melt and leak out of the wheel bearings or any of the other stuff most road cars end up doing on track. Most of all, I have at least a modicum of mechanical sympathy, and it is clearly a car built for me to drive as hard as I dare without feeling like I am torturing it. They are built for it.

@reddiesel, the sad news is that I have a GTS 4.0 as well now, and a couple of people have told me you can do exactly the same with them too. (Although I'm not sure the brakes look built for the same level of resilience on a warm day. ) So you might have ended up with a GTS that's been doing the same job... I certainly wouldn't hesitate to drive it as quickly as I safely can on the track.

Many years back, a friend that had raced a lot of cars (and motorcycles) over the years reckoned his GT3 was the first road car he'd ever known that was genuinely built to put up with track days, and then going to work the next day. He made a good point, and it has survived him!

Liam