Porsche 928 40th anniversary in 2017

[rich888]

K-Cee said:

Here,s the " Engine room".., underside is fully detailed as well .

Wow, you could eat your dinner off that, is great to see a few examples that have been well cared for by their owners, at least a few of us care.

If you have the time you ought to have a drive over to the Porsche meet at Chatsworth House on Sunday 5th July 2015, well always assuming the weather is dry and sunny.

OlberJ said:

Falling back in love with my 928 after the 964 left.

Just rmb'd it : https://youtu.be/snP7n9paA5Q



Getting about 15mpg but do need to sort out my vac lines asap.

Beautiful pic and the scenery isn't bad either

[Land Shark GT]

Loch Morlich at Sundown a few years ago

[Land Shark GT]

The GT on the Dukes Pass

[rich888]

A few pics of my 928 at the Porsche meet at Chatsworth House in 2014.

[Land Shark GT]

[quote=rich888]A few pics of my 928 at the Porsche meet at Chatsworth House in 2014.

Your car looks superb in Guards with those Cups.
I changed back to my d90s with correct offset, what a difference, the
car is like a bally dancer now, but cups look better

[Pickled]

2 months and 8000 miles into the second year of ownership of my 86.5 S2, still loving it. Just had its annual service and MOT which it passed with no advisories or unexpected bills - despite all the horror stories that surround the 928.

I have noticed prices seem to be on the up as well, I do wonder whether any cars actually sell for some of the advertised amounts though

Edited by Pickled on Sunday 14th June 11:22

[Bo_apex]

rich888 said:

Very nice indeed and with 23 years behind you the 928 must be part of your soul.

A colleague of mine has an identical coloured 928S that he is currently doing up at his leisure, though I think his may be an auto. I just think they look so good from most angles and sound so damn impressive with that low pitch rumble from the exhaust pipe that few other cars can match.

I was lucky enough to hitch a ride in a manual GT last year (late November) down to the annual 928 meet at the Merry Miller pub and was quite astonished at how different the manual 928s are compared to the autos. Despite the weather not being very favourable it was very enjoyable trip down and the pub car-park was packed solid with 928s to such an extent that there were very little spaces left for any other customers, was truly astounding. I took a few pics of the event and posted the pics on my Flickr account: https://www.flickr.com/photos/100047767@N07/sets/7...

I agree. Fortunate to have good examples of both S4/GT variants, with the GT definitely feeling even more alive through handling and power.
The differential between them is akin to the Testarossa and 512 TR evolution. Both S4 and GT are great fun, massively capable in their own right

[OlberJ]

Land Shark GT said:

The GT on the Dukes Pass

Nice one. We did the pass at many knots in April with a bunch of gt3s and my PSD had a bit of a freak out. Not exactly built for that road but it is a hoot.

Vac lines under the manifold, i believe they can crack due to age, so I'll replace them with fresh stuff and see if it cures my sometimes lumpy idle.

Got a few other tweaks to try too.

The rmb is glorious. Really, really lets it breathe. Will have a look at doing the x pipe too for some actual gains.

[Land Shark GT]

OlberJ said:

Nice one. We did the pass at many knots in April with a bunch of gt3s and my PSD had a bit of a freak out. Not exactly built for that road but it is a hoot.

Vac lines under the manifold, i believe they can crack due to age, so I'll replace them with fresh stuff and see if it cures my sometimes lumpy idle.

Got a few other tweaks to try too.

The rmb is glorious. Really, really lets it breathe. Will have a look at doing the x pipe too for some actual gains.

The main issue is the road surface it is crap.

I did the X pipe and then a live tune and managed 356 bhp on rolling road using
V power racing

[Land Shark GT]

Bo_apex said:

I agree. Fortunate to have good examples of both S4/GT variants, with the GT definitely feeling even more alive through handling and power.
The differential between them is akin to the Testarossa and 512 TR evolution. Both S4 and GT are great fun, massively capable in their own right

The GT is a far different experience, having owned both I know. The Auto is
good though lazy and soft in comparison, it has to be prodded. To have full control
and manipulation of the big V8 with the clutch pedal is a unique experience virtually unrivalled
in any other car, a feeling of unbridled power akin to a Jaguar Lister or Aston Martin V8

[rich888]

Land Shark GT said:

Bo_apex said:

I agree. Fortunate to have good examples of both S4/GT variants, with the GT definitely feeling even more alive through handling and power.
The differential between them is akin to the Testarossa and 512 TR evolution. Both S4 and GT are great fun, massively capable in their own right

The GT is a far different experience, having owned both I know. The Auto is
good though lazy and soft in comparison, it has to be prodded. To have full control
and manipulation of the big V8 with the clutch pedal is a unique experience virtually unrivalled
in any other car, a feeling of unbridled power akin to a Jaguar Lister or Aston Martin V8

Totally agree with what you have said, the manual does feel more alive, whilst the auto is just plain lazy when you want it to be, but it needs to be remembered that the auto is no slouch, if you select '3' in auto at standstill it will quite happily select 1st gear, spin the rear wheels, and charge right up to 121mph if driven in anger before 4th gear needs to selected, my first 928 S4 which I purchased back in the early 1990s used to change up at 60 for 1st gear, 90 for 2nd gear, and 121 for 3rd gear, and bearing in mind autos tend to pull off in 2nd gear if left in 'D' means that 928s can pull away from standstill to 90mph with no gear-change which tends to crush everything in their path.

I actually chased an early manual 928 S2 back in the 1980s along the main road on my super-bike which at that time was king of the road, and I have to say the 928 sounded awesome as it went through the gears, and though the bike was faster to 100mph I chose not to overtake it because it sounded just so good, and it was a wise decision because when this thing pulled off the main road onto the side-road it was quite astonishing to watch it accelerate through the corners whilst I was hanging on for dear life. Absolutely stunning, awesome... it was just sensational...

Ought to mention I'm a far more experienced and patient driver nowadays so haven't actually tried these redline antics with my current 928 S4, plus there are far too many taxpayer funded safety [tax revenue?] camera jobsworths looking to justify their parasitic existence, which rather ruins the whole driving experience.

[Bo_apex]

Pickled said:

I have noticed prices seem to be on the up as well, I do wonder whether any cars actually sell for some of the advertised amounts though

Edited by Pickled on Sunday 14th June 11:22

quite a few mint GTS's have sold in the late 30's to 40's recently, and a rare manual just sold for £60K. Seems collectors are in and prices are on the up

[Cheburator mk2]

Bo_apex said:

quite a few mint GTS's have sold in the late 30's to 40's recently, and a rare manual just sold for £60K. Seems collectors are in and prices are on the up

Are you sure the £60k Targa Florio GTS 5-spd has actually sold? If yes, that is great news for those who have a GTS 5-spd and really bad news for those that want to buy one, since by all accounts it was a good car and not an exceptional car. The last exceptional car that sold was the 33k mile, one family owned from new Midnight Blue 1994 5-spd GTS, which went for £40k... In light of today's prices, that was a bargain...

[Bo_apex]

Cheburator mk2 said:

Are you sure the £60k Targa Florio GTS 5-spd has actually sold? If yes, that is great news for those who have a GTS 5-spd and really bad news for those that want to buy one, since by all accounts it was a good car and not an exceptional car. The last exceptional car that sold was the 33k mile, one family owned from new Midnight Blue 1994 5-spd GTS, which went for £40k... In light of today's prices, that was a bargain...

It's listed as sold, alongside the black manual. The red one was snapped up PDQ.

[Land Shark GT]

So Porsche 928 is 40 shortly and also rumours of a new 928 type model regardless
of what it wil lbe called it will have a nod to the 928 model, may be 929?
I think what we are seeing at the moment is the begining of the best 928 models
somersaulting in value.

[rich888]

Land Shark GT said:

So Porsche 928 is 40 shortly and also rumours of a new 928 type model regardless
of what it wil lbe called it will have a nod to the 928 model, may be 929?
I think what we are seeing at the moment is the begining of the best 928 models
somersaulting in value.

I think you will find the replacement is already available, though has grown quite substantially in girth and weight and is called the Cayenne

When the 928 was first unveiled back in the 1970s I seem to remember it seemed quite a large car, but nowadays it seems quite low, lean and mean, possibly because modern day cars have just gotten bigger, heavier and fatter!

The 928 has aged remarkably well considering it was unleashed onto the market back in the 1970s when slab sided cars were the fashion, just watch an episode of Fawlty Towers to appreciate just how bad the average cars were in those days, I seem to remember cars on the road such as Maxi, Allegro [Aggro], Princess, Cortina, etc, even sports cars were going flab sided like the Esprit and the TVR, so the Porsche 928 must have looked like it had dropped out of the sky from a different planet. I seem to recollect it was marketed against the likes of the Jaguar 5.3 V12 and the Mercedes 500 SEC, when in actual fact it was a far more accomplished supercar than the Lamborghini Countach or the Ferrari 512BB, both of which were true supercars in the 1980s, but not very practical.

Fast forward to 2015 and I feel that the exterior shape hasn't aged too badly at all and looks good from most angles, whilst the interior is just perfect whether in light or dark colours, everything fits where it ought to, visibility front and rear is good, and thankfully the digital dash is clear and precise, with Porsche refusing to clutter up the display. The sweeping centre console design is fantastic.

It's no wonder that good quality examples of the 928 are finally being snapped up by collectors from around the world who have finally realised just how good the 928 is in everything it does. Sure there are cheap and tatty examples out there which will cost a fortune to maintain, but isn't that the case for most cars that have been badly neglected.

Porsche 928 S4 auto - 5 litre V8 - 320 horse power - 21 MPG - 4 seats - 168mph top speed - how many modern day cars offer such a combination?

[OlberJ]

Do you mean Panamera?

Can't see the Cayenne link myself.

[rich888]

OlberJ said:

Do you mean Panamera?

Can't see the Cayenne link myself.

Was being a little sarcastic with my comment about the Cayenne so don't read too much into it.

I've not actually seen that many Panameras on the road, though did see a couple parked up at last years Porsche meet at Chatsworth House, I wasn't actually paying too much attention to it at the time but did think it was massive.

However, the Porsche Cayenne seems to be very popular at the moment, I can only assume that drivers are wanting something a bit more unique than the Range Rover which do seem to be everywhere, but each time I see a Cayenne I always think of it as a 928 on stilts. And apologies to anyone owning a Cayenne, it wasn't my intention to cause offence, just a casual observation.

[rich888]

Land Shark GT said:

rich888 said:

A few pics of my 928 at the Porsche meet at Chatsworth House in 2014.

Your car looks superb in Guards with those Cups.
I changed back to my d90s with correct offset, what a difference, the
car is like a bally dancer now, but cups look better

Cheers for that, as regards to the correct offset I took my 928 down to Paul Anderson who is one of the more established 928 specialists who commented on the offset and managed to improve the handling characteristics quite substantially, it no longer darts about on white lines and tracks perfectly. I don't think I'm a good enough driver to push it anywhere near its limits and having stuffed one off the road backwards many years ago when I was a lot younger have great respect for it. It's like a Rottweiler, you don't push it too hard or it will bite you.

Incidentally, your comment about the 'bally dancer' made me laugh, did you mean ballet dancer or belly dancer, or for that matter pole dancer

[Modern Classics]

rich888 said:

Cheers for that, as regards to the correct offset I took my 928 down to Paul Anderson who is one of the more established 928 specialists who commented on the offset and managed to improve the handling characteristics quite substantially, it no longer darts about on white lines and tracks perfectly. I don't think I'm a good enough driver to push it anywhere near its limits and having stuffed one off the road backwards many years ago when I was a lot younger have great respect for it. It's like a Rottweiler, you don't push it too hard or it will bite you.

Incidentally, your comment about the 'bally dancer' made me laugh, did you mean ballet dancer or belly dancer, or for that matter pole dancer

I found that with the correct D90s the car was nimble and agile, light on its toes and turns
on a sixpence.......Need to use it more.

The Cups look better granted however the extra weight is very noticeable, so for all you
guys running Cups you are ruining the natural feel of your car, get the D90S back on
(correct ones) 245 45 16s on the rear and 205 50 to the front, have it properly tracked
and camber set, and boy, its a different car.

P.S. I know the GTS runs Cups, however they are real Porsche items, a lot of copy
Cups going about, when you weigh them you see the difference....