968 - the best spec...
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blade7 said:
dry664 said:
92k mile Sport in good condition has to be worth £15k minimum in the current market.
A good E46 M3 makes more sense to me at that money. People say its a small scale thing - it isn't they all crack and will do at some point. Been there and done that with a few E46 M3's
I'm wanting a 968 sport - way more scarce and prices will surely rise over the long term
lord trumpton said:
Ive trodden the m3 path in many genres - E30, E36, E46 and E90. The E46 is an amazing car and the S54 engine is a relatively bulletproof masterpiece (HGF and Cracking vanos cog aside) but it has a real achilles heel and that is the rear axel carrier panel to which the subframe bolts - they crack. Some can be nipped in the bud, welded and plated but some can need a complete new panel (major surgery) at £4k.
New panels were fitted because BMW were picking up the bill up to 10 years old, a properly plated and welded floor will likely be stronger than a new panel. Good luck in your 968 search.One of the bills in the history file from my 968 was well over £3k more than a decade ago for new cams and top end rebuild, they had a batch of cams that had duff case hardening which I recall effected late S2s and early 968s. That and gearbox pinion bearings were the achilles heal on this car if one was unlucky enough to get caught by them.
I fitted new cams to my last 968 shortly after I bought it in 2001 but found out that it needed another new set around 30k miles later when a well known Porsche specialist subsequently owned it as his personal car. I had the pinion bearings done by another very well known specialist but they were whining worse than ever when I sold it! It also snapped 2 balance shaft belts in my ownership (about 25k miles) too.
It was by far the most troublesome of my 8 Porsches over the last 20 years. I did have a soft spot for it and owned it for 6 years but there's no way I'd swap my gen 1 Cayman S for one now.
It was by far the most troublesome of my 8 Porsches over the last 20 years. I did have a soft spot for it and owned it for 6 years but there's no way I'd swap my gen 1 Cayman S for one now.
So, just to conclude this thread; with the help and advice from you guys I am now the owner of a lovely '95 968 sport in a silvery blue colour.
It's a lovely car and very original too, all the keys and spare porsche immobiliser fobs, book pack, stamped service history, all the bills plus the original dealer stickers in the window - all that kinda crap. A very straight and original car.
I', going to spend some days over the winter months titivating it so I'll start a thread detailing the progress etc
Thanks to all for the advice and input
It's a lovely car and very original too, all the keys and spare porsche immobiliser fobs, book pack, stamped service history, all the bills plus the original dealer stickers in the window - all that kinda crap. A very straight and original car.
I', going to spend some days over the winter months titivating it so I'll start a thread detailing the progress etc
Thanks to all for the advice and input
Well done that man. Happy Christmas motoring 
...... ...... and of course the most important of them all, the original spec sticker stuck to the boot floor.
You'd be amazed how many Club Sports had those missing when I was looking for a CS.
...... ...... and of course the most important of them all, the original spec sticker stuck to the boot floor.
You'd be amazed how many Club Sports had those missing when I was looking for a CS.
Edited by Wozy68 on Thursday 24th December 21:22
The sticker is of interest, but of no real importance and it is certainly not important in the way that people suggest. That is received wisdom, at best. Repeated and enhanced until people daresnt buy a car from which it is missing, which is ridiculous.
The same sticker can be found in the service book on page three.
The same sticker can be found in the service book on page three.
GC8 said:
The sticker is of interest, but of no real importance and it is certainly not important in the way that people suggest. That is received wisdom, at best. Repeated and enhanced until people daresnt buy a car from which it is missing, which is ridiculous.
The same sticker can be found in the service book on page three.
From what I understood GC8, the significance of it being still in the boot was an indication that the rear end ain't been bashed in or even replaced. A sign of originality etcThe same sticker can be found in the service book on page three.
lord trumpton said:
GC8 said:
The sticker is of interest, but of no real importance and it is certainly not important in the way that people suggest. That is received wisdom, at best. Repeated and enhanced until people daresnt buy a car from which it is missing, which is ridiculous.
The same sticker can be found in the service book on page three.
From what I understood GC8, the significance of it being still in the boot was an indication that the rear end ain't been bashed in or even replaced. A sign of originality etcThe same sticker can be found in the service book on page three.
The sticker in my Turbo is original. Barely stuck on by a corner like a parking ticket, with the backing on the rest. Where does this leave 'original' theories?
Yes the stickers presence would suggest that the car hasn't been involved in a serious rear end collision, but that it an extremely tenuous reason for venerating it: most Porsches are crashed whilst going forward after all.
I will add btw, that I have been an enthusiastic owner for almost 25yrs, whereas most of the build sticker enthusiasts have come and gone after relatively brief periods of ownership.
Yes the stickers presence would suggest that the car hasn't been involved in a serious rear end collision, but that it an extremely tenuous reason for venerating it: most Porsches are crashed whilst going forward after all.
I will add btw, that I have been an enthusiastic owner for almost 25yrs, whereas most of the build sticker enthusiasts have come and gone after relatively brief periods of ownership.
. It does amuse me though when traders claim a factory LSD and include a pic of the sticker that shows no such option 
Sticker is no guarantee of a car not being crashed. My S2 when I bought it back in 2001 had the boot sticker all present and correct. My brother was a bodyshop tech at the time was sure the rear end and quarter had been replaced but that it was a 'perfect' repair as in almost impossible to spot. Many years later when pulling the car apart to build it into a race I car I found loads of glass trapped under one of the glued down sections of rear carpet indicating that it had in fact been through some extensive body work repair following a crash.
Good choice. Got any more pics?
I don't think you'll regret it. I've had mine for years and yes, on a long straight it could use a bit more power but on a twisty circuit or a mountain road (or a hillclimb, see pic) it's still a superb car.
I don't think you'll regret it. I've had mine for years and yes, on a long straight it could use a bit more power but on a twisty circuit or a mountain road (or a hillclimb, see pic) it's still a superb car.
Edited by probably chalk on Wednesday 6th January 13:17
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