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Sandy59

2,706 posts

211 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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thewildblue said:
In mid May I took my S2 on my first trip to the ring. It was just a long weekend, but the car was great. Averaged ~31mpg for the overall trip. Only did 5 laps of the ring, my first 2 were wet/dry with a spin on my first lap at Kallenhard ( that scared me a little). But by lap 4 I had managed a 9:06 BTG with loads of room for improvement. I didn't time when driving and just reviewed Gopro footage afterwards. Felt quite pleased, not bad for a car that ticked over 190k on the trip.

That's me very early in the vid clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyW2v0-kmGU NS2Rs arent great in the wet....well thats my excuse anyway.. ;-)
One of my most enjoyable track days ever was in my first Porsche - an S2 - in torrential rain at Knockhill, with very little tread on the rear tyres.
I thought it would be a recipe for disaster, but was amazed at the grip actually available, and how easy and enjoyable the car was to control on the limit of that grip in the corners.

blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Sandy59 said:
One of my most enjoyable track days ever was in my first Porsche - an S2 - in torrential rain at Knockhill, with very little tread on the rear tyres.
I thought it would be a recipe for disaster, but was amazed at the grip actually available, and how easy and enjoyable the car was to control on the limit of that grip in the corners.
Ultimately probably little difference on the road between an S2 and a 968 in similar mechanical condition. I believe the power difference is offset by the S2 being lighter.

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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blade7 said:
Ultimately probably little difference on the road between an S2 and a 968 in similar mechanical condition. I believe the power difference is offset by the S2 being lighter.
..but we both know what the fastest transaxle car is?.....

...roger and out.. smile

blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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edh said:
..but we both know what the fastest transaxle car is?.....

...roger and out.. smile
Is it an anorexic 924.....rolleyes

Sandy59

2,706 posts

211 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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blade7 said:
Sandy59 said:
One of my most enjoyable track days ever was in my first Porsche - an S2 - in torrential rain at Knockhill, with very little tread on the rear tyres.
I thought it would be a recipe for disaster, but was amazed at the grip actually available, and how easy and enjoyable the car was to control on the limit of that grip in the corners.
Ultimately probably little difference on the road between an S2 and a 968 in similar mechanical condition. I believe the power difference is offset by the S2 being lighter.
I'd kind of agree with that. On the same track day I mentioned I later had a good few laps in a dealer 968 CS which was new then, I don't remember thinking there was any massive difference between the 2 cars at the time. Again it was in torrential rain, may have been more of a difference in the dry, maybe not.

Richair

1,021 posts

197 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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blade7 said:
edh said:
..but we both know what the fastest transaxle car is?.....

...roger and out.. smile
Is it an anorexic 924.....rolleyes
laugh how is the PCGB forum these days chaps?

diver944

1,843 posts

276 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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Very very quiet

blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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diver944 said:
Very very quiet
Maybe part of that is because when some nobber turns up spouting a load of guff you can't say boo to them anymore....

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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blade7 said:
Maybe part of that is because when some nobber turns up spouting a load of guff you can't say boo to them anymore....
Don't be too hard on yourself.... hehe

I'm still hoping he'll learn

blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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Good luck with that...

thewildblue

351 posts

173 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Ah the superlightweight jobby..... I find those threads rather amusing.....

Richair

1,021 posts

197 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Cor! What a big crank you have rotate



Going backwards now... But at least the journals are all in good nick, can't say the same about a couple of the mains eek There's some very strange marks on the nose bearing, almost like tool marks... But the crank has very little visible wear. I didn't think the motor had ever been open before, but now I'm not so sure. Very odd!









It's now with the machine shop for a quick re-polish of the journals and rebalance to suit the new Fidanza flywheel. I did consider having every last ounce of material machined off it, along with some 'speed holes' for good measure, but well, I'm not an idiot laugh

blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Offset grind it ya wimp, that'll get some weight off too biggrin.

Richair

1,021 posts

197 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Haha I do want to drive it again this decade!! A 2.8 stroker is on the agenda for when I give it a full rebuild... This is supposed to be just a refresh (well, it's supposed to be just a sodding clutch change!!).

blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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With the engine that far apart I'd stick an S2 crank and some suitable pistons in it now.

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Richair said:
Cor! What a big crank you have rotate

Going backwards now... But at least the journals are all in good nick, can't say the same about a couple of the mains eek There's some very strange marks on the nose bearing, almost like tool marks... But the crank has very little visible wear. I didn't think the motor had ever been open before, but now I'm not so sure. Very odd!
Very odd mark - could some debris have got stuck in there?

hmmm..where to find a 3.0 crank? smile



blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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edh said:
Very odd mark - could some debris have got stuck in there?

hmmm..where to find a 3.0 crank? smile

Needs the matching crank damper/pulley too...

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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blade7 said:
Needs the matching crank damper/pulley too...
yep - I don't have a pic of that though, is buried in the garage somewhere smile

Richair

1,021 posts

197 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Don't do this to me!!! I'm easily distracted tongue out

In all seriousness though the pistons are staying put as I rebuilt the top end only 2 years back (less than 5k miles on it). With it now being a race car I figure that it probably won't be all that long until its apart again and then I'll be looking at options for the next stage... Currently mulling over whether I should just look to acquire a 16v motor to build up when this one goes back in. Whichever way you look at it increasing capacity isn't going to be cheap, so I may as well go balls out evil Plus a 16v would make great power without needing to run much boost, which is bonus. Also a must for the next build will be the ability to run proper rod bearings!!

But I should really keep my focus on the task in hand! I may well drop you a line though Ed.

blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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edh said:
blade7 said:
Needs the matching crank damper/pulley too...
yep - I don't have a pic of that though, is buried in the garage somewhere smile
I don't think some engine builders know the 3.0 crank needs the matching harmonic pulley/balancer.