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GC8 said:
Fat Albert said:
Jeremy, you would not believe how much money I have spent having this car welded. You might not believe how much filler was in the sills after you paid a specialist good money to repair them, too.rufusgti said:
GC8 said:
Fat Albert said:
Jeremy, you would not believe how much money I have spent having this car welded. You might not believe how much filler was in the sills after you paid a specialist good money to repair them, too.Hi...I’m just about to make an Ofer on a private sale 944 (not advertised)...
It’s had a fair amount of work done to it as a restoration project by the current owner, but would like to know what’s the headline items to look out for with a 944...?
I’ve had a lot of Porsche’s over the years, but not a front drive model.
Thanks in advance..
It’s had a fair amount of work done to it as a restoration project by the current owner, but would like to know what’s the headline items to look out for with a 944...?
I’ve had a lot of Porsche’s over the years, but not a front drive model.
Thanks in advance..
Errr, it’s not front drive. Just front-engined. Rear wheel drive via the transaxle.
;)
I’m sure you knew that. But, you know ...
https://www.hagerty.com/media/buying-and-selling/p...
;)
I’m sure you knew that. But, you know ...
https://www.hagerty.com/media/buying-and-selling/p...
Edited by Pilotguy on Monday 25th May 18:57
Edited by Pilotguy on Monday 25th May 18:58
Pilotguy said:
Errr, it’s not front drive. Just front-engined. Rear wheel drive via the transaxle.
;)
I’m sure you knew that. But, you know ...
https://www.hagerty.com/media/buying-and-selling/p...
Ha! Yes, phrased badly! Oops! ;)
I’m sure you knew that. But, you know ...
https://www.hagerty.com/media/buying-and-selling/p...
Edited by Pilotguy on Monday 25th May 18:57
Edited by Pilotguy on Monday 25th May 18:58
Thanks for the link, I’ll have a look.
No problem. Here’s another good link to 944 development history
https://silodrome.com/porsche-944-history/
https://silodrome.com/porsche-944-history/
MrVert said:
Hi...I’m just about to make an Ofer on a private sale 944 (not advertised)...
It’s had a fair amount of work done to it as a restoration project by the current owner, but would like to know what’s the headline items to look out for with a 944...?
I’ve had a lot of Porsche’s over the years, but not a front drive model.
Thanks in advance..
Rust. (What sort of restoration is this?)It’s had a fair amount of work done to it as a restoration project by the current owner, but would like to know what’s the headline items to look out for with a 944...?
I’ve had a lot of Porsche’s over the years, but not a front drive model.
Thanks in advance..
Clutch (expensive job so watch out if very heavy or juddery on decel)
Make sure everything works
There are more specific things on 16v and turbo cars to watch out for
Edited by edh on Tuesday 26th May 07:21
MrVert said:
Hi...I’m just about to make an Ofer on a private sale 944 (not advertised)...
It’s had a fair amount of work done to it as a restoration project by the current owner, but would like to know what’s the headline items to look out for with a 944...?
I’ve had a lot of Porsche’s over the years, but not a front drive model.
Thanks in advance..
Belts. If you cannot be confident that they have been changed recently then get them done ASAP.It’s had a fair amount of work done to it as a restoration project by the current owner, but would like to know what’s the headline items to look out for with a 944...?
I’ve had a lot of Porsche’s over the years, but not a front drive model.
Thanks in advance..
I wouldn't give a monkey about the belts: this is <£2k car advice. Values have risen and belts still cost the same.
Rust, rust & rust. Everyone will tell you that theirs doesnt have any. Then they'll tell you that it is just a spot on the outside of the sill... And so it will go on. Now, at this age, 944s are suffering terribly from corrosion and faith in galvanising (I thought tgat tgey were galvanised...? etc) is misplaced and misunderstood. It is a sacrificial process and it only has so much to give. Most 944s have rust; many have extremely serious rust (outer sill, rear inner sill, into the rear axle mountings, inner sills to floors, footwell to bulkhead, battery box [series two cars] and the base of the A pillar into the bulkhead) and even more have been bodged to hide it, because these were cheap cars.
Engines: most good engines stripped and measured aren't great and virtually all 16v engines need knowledgeable work to see them making anything like their qouted output (static timing related) and 16v cars have issues with timing chain and cam wear too, which is serious and expensive.
This applies to 968 engines too, but at least these have always been costly with used parts seldom found. With 944s everything is extremely costly for what it is, due to increased values and every chancer thinking that it is pay day.
Dashboards on all series are now likely to be cracked. On series one cars they'll be terrible.
Rust, rust & rust. Everyone will tell you that theirs doesnt have any. Then they'll tell you that it is just a spot on the outside of the sill... And so it will go on. Now, at this age, 944s are suffering terribly from corrosion and faith in galvanising (I thought tgat tgey were galvanised...? etc) is misplaced and misunderstood. It is a sacrificial process and it only has so much to give. Most 944s have rust; many have extremely serious rust (outer sill, rear inner sill, into the rear axle mountings, inner sills to floors, footwell to bulkhead, battery box [series two cars] and the base of the A pillar into the bulkhead) and even more have been bodged to hide it, because these were cheap cars.
Engines: most good engines stripped and measured aren't great and virtually all 16v engines need knowledgeable work to see them making anything like their qouted output (static timing related) and 16v cars have issues with timing chain and cam wear too, which is serious and expensive.
This applies to 968 engines too, but at least these have always been costly with used parts seldom found. With 944s everything is extremely costly for what it is, due to increased values and every chancer thinking that it is pay day.
Dashboards on all series are now likely to be cracked. On series one cars they'll be terrible.
GC8 said:
I wouldn't give a monkey about the belts: this is <£2k car advice. Values have risen and belts still cost the same.
Rust, rust & rust. Everyone will tell you that theirs doesnt have any. Then they'll tell you that it is just a spot on the outside of the sill... And so it will go on. Now, at this age, 944s are suffering terribly from corrosion and faith in galvanising (I thought tgat tgey were galvanised...? etc) is misplaced and misunderstood. It is a sacrificial process and it only has so much to give. Most 944s have rust; many have extremely serious rust (outer sill, rear inner sill, into the rear axle mountings, inner sills to floors, footwell to bulkhead, battery box [series two cars] and the base of the A pillar into the bulkhead) and even more have been bodged to hide it, because these were cheap cars.
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Dashboards on all series are now likely to be cracked. On series one cars they'll be terrible.
Mostly rubbish.Rust, rust & rust. Everyone will tell you that theirs doesnt have any. Then they'll tell you that it is just a spot on the outside of the sill... And so it will go on. Now, at this age, 944s are suffering terribly from corrosion and faith in galvanising (I thought tgat tgey were galvanised...? etc) is misplaced and misunderstood. It is a sacrificial process and it only has so much to give. Most 944s have rust; many have extremely serious rust (outer sill, rear inner sill, into the rear axle mountings, inner sills to floors, footwell to bulkhead, battery box [series two cars] and the base of the A pillar into the bulkhead) and even more have been bodged to hide it, because these were cheap cars.
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Dashboards on all series are now likely to be cracked. On series one cars they'll be terrible.
blade7 said:
The 944 comes from the time when Porsche weren't building their cars down to a price. And they didn't make them easy to work on either. Add to that they're mostly 30+ years old, and unless it's a turbo most 944's don't make much financial sense to properly restore.
Mostly true.Really? My approaching 30yrs owning the cars, from an M758 and new CS to my current 1988 Turbo (and series one competition car, 2.7L and '86 automatic) would suggest otherwise.
Are you mistaking my knowing and referencing a lot of things that you do not know about as my talking rubbish? You will find plenty of people who will call me a , but none will say that I do not know more about FrontRunners than most and certainly more than you.
Add to this that I have just had to have most of this work done to my Turbo, at grest expense. My friends Turbo S was a little shinier but he has had to have even more done.
Are you mistaking my knowing and referencing a lot of things that you do not know about as my talking rubbish? You will find plenty of people who will call me a , but none will say that I do not know more about FrontRunners than most and certainly more than you.
Add to this that I have just had to have most of this work done to my Turbo, at grest expense. My friends Turbo S was a little shinier but he has had to have even more done.
Simon is on the money as far as rust goes. He might be rude & grumpy but that's just the Yorkshire in him I think...
Most 944's were well used and not really cared for that well. They definitely rust. He highlighted the main problem areas.
Low mileage garage queens may be a different case.
Most 944's were well used and not really cared for that well. They definitely rust. He highlighted the main problem areas.
Low mileage garage queens may be a different case.
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