944T/968 how many years owned?

944T/968 how many years owned?

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2Btoo

2,019 posts

162 months

Wednesday 11th March
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blade7 said:
I've always wonder how different a 968CS is to drive, compared to a similar spec late 944 turbo?
Good 944S2 to a 968 was not much of a jump at all. The S2 was lighter and had only a small amount less power. There was more engine excitement from the 968 as it had the variocam doodah (and the one I drove had it working as well, which is not always the case.)

I've never driven a 951 back-to-back with a 968 but I expect there would be more difference between the engines than anywhere else.

blade7

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9,756 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th March
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2Btoo said:
blade7 said:
I've always wonder how different a 968CS is to drive, compared to a similar spec late 944 turbo?
Good 944S2 to a 968 was not much of a jump at all. The S2 was lighter and had only a small amount less power. There was more engine excitement from the 968 as it had the variocam doodah (and the one I drove had it working as well, which is not always the case.)

I've never driven a 951 back-to-back with a 968 but I expect there would be more difference between the engines than anywhere else.
I was very close to buying a 968 years ago, but it didn't seem much quicker than my out going E36 328 Coupe. In contrast the 944 turbo I bought felt much quicker. And it had most of the MO30 as standard.

RiccardoG

1,246 posts

231 months

Thursday 12th March
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Anyone owns/ed the cabriolet versions (944/968)?

I quite like the looks and what with the rear seats (for children) I think it would be one way to get the whoke family out together on ocassion. But the indy that services my 997 suggested they're not that great to drive. I tend to respect his view as he is well reputed, has been in business for years and originally cut his teeth with the transaxle cars when he set up ~20+yrs ago.

There are very few cabriolets about and my time is limited, so would welcome some views on what they're like from actual owners.

Lowtimer

4,203 posts

127 months

Thursday 12th March
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blade7 said:
Gixer968CS said:
All that said, I owned it for 5 years and if used for what it was meant for it was a hoot. One particular track day at Bedford Autodrome sticks in the mind where I was black flagged and when I came in looking puzzled I was advised to slow down as my four wheel drifts were looking pretty full on around the final right hand bend on to the pit-straight. It was so easy, and trust me that isn't the kind of thing I do!!
I've always wonder how different a 968CS is to drive, compared to a similar spec late 944 turbo?
These days nothing that gets tracked is on original suspension so in reality you would probably have identical suspension and brakes on both, so the only differences you'd be likely to find are:
- that the limited slip diff was an expensive and quite infrequent option on the 968, whereas it was standard on the late 944T
- that the 968 is much more linear and immediate in throttle response, weighed against the superior performance of even a 250hp 944T (and surely no-one with a K26/8 has less than about 290hp these days).

Lowtimer

4,203 posts

127 months

Thursday 12th March
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RiccardoG said:
Anyone owns/ed the cabriolet versions (944/968)?

I quite like the looks and what with the rear seats (for children) I think it would be one way to get the whoke family out together on ocassion. But the indy that services my 997 suggested they're not that great to drive. I tend to respect his view as he is well reputed, has been in business for years and originally cut his teeth with the transaxle cars when he set up ~20+yrs ago.

There are very few cabriolets about and my time is limited, so would welcome some views on what they're like from actual owners.
The rear seats are really extremely limited, and the cars are a lot less rigid than coupes, and expensive too. You can get a nice 944/968 coupe and some kind of proper four seat convertible like an E-Class Merc for the price of a 944/968 cabrio, and get best of both worlds

blade7

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9,756 posts

175 months

Thursday 12th March
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968 Cabrios used to be the cheapest, and with good reason.

shawn 968cs

218 posts

162 months

Thursday 12th March
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968CS since 2007 and still doing 2 or 3 track days per year, as intended when I bought it.
Sublime handling, and more than once got me out of jail when I've overcooked it.
Use to have supercharger on it, and use to embarrass a lot of modern cars, until it let go, now back to standard.
Every time I go now, someone always comes along and taps on the window, saying its too good to go on track! or wants to buy it.
It's a Keeper for sure

blade7

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9,756 posts

175 months

Thursday 12th March
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Lowtimer said:
These days the only differences you'd be likely to find are:
- that the limited slip diff was an expensive and quite infrequent option on the 968, whereas it was standard on the late 944T
- that the 968 is much more linear and immediate in throttle response, weighed against the superior performance of even a 250hp 944T (and surely no-one with a K26/8 has less than about 290hp these days).
My take on it is there would be nothing in it in the twisty stuff, and the turbo would pull away on straights. 12 years ago when I was looking for a weekend car the 968 and M3 Evo were in the mix, the BMW had a much better engine for me though.

RiccardoG

1,246 posts

231 months

Friday 13th March
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Thanks for the feedback on the cabriolets, sounds like this might not be the best option...

NJH

3,021 posts

168 months

Friday 13th March
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As always it depends greatly on what you want to achieve, personally I like the idea of a Mustang GT 5.0 convertible, get the rumbly V8 soundtrack with decent space etc. Going the other way we used to have an MX5. The problem for me with the 944/968 convertibles is that they are neither fish nor fowl sort of cars. For some they will work OK and some just love the way they look. For a long time there wasn't a plethora of cheap boxsters to choose from either so that kept interest in them high. Never held any attraction for me, completely loose the amazing relative practically of the 944/968 and its stifness, but don't gain any great sound or performance. They do look pretty though.

nick_968

544 posts

197 months

Monday 23rd March
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shawn 968cs said:
968CS since 2007 and still doing 2 or 3 track days per year, as intended when I bought it.
Sublime handling, and more than once got me out of jail when I've overcooked it.
Use to have supercharger on it, and use to embarrass a lot of modern cars, until it let go, now back to standard.
Every time I go now, someone always comes along and taps on the window, saying its too good to go on track! or wants to buy it.
It's a Keeper for sure
Good to hear you are still tracking your 968 Shawn must hook up on a track one day when I get back to tracking mine.

GC8

19,397 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st April
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I started in 1992, so I have 28yrs experience, but not all with the same car.

MarkKo

150 posts

156 months

Wednesday 23rd September
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Had a 944 Turbo since 1993,was without one from 96/97 till 03/04, Went to owning 3 at one point down two a more reasonable 2 now.Would like one as a minimum till i stop driving.
Owned my 968 CS racecar since 2011 broke it in 2014 needs lots of work will get around to it at some point.

blade7

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9,756 posts

175 months

Thursday 24th September
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I'm not usually a fan of red, but yours is a really nice car.

carspath

730 posts

136 months

Saturday 26th September
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1988 944 turbo 220 bhp
Kept it for 12 years and did about 80,000 miles

Fantastic car , brilliant build quality , many , many enjoyable drives in it , and some truly memorable drives which I will never forget .

Really loved that car , but it was expensive to maintain properly

MarkKo

150 posts

156 months

Monday 28th September
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blade7 said:
I'm not usually a fan of red, but yours is a really nice car.
Thanks smile As an alround package it makes a nice road car still.Don't drive it nearly enough sadly next summer now the AC is back at full tilt!!!

blade7

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9,756 posts

175 months

Monday 28th September
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Ever had any regrets about fitting that huge turbo, or thought about fitting something more modern?

edh

3,495 posts

228 months

Tuesday 29th September
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MarkKo said:
blade7 said:
I'm not usually a fan of red, but yours is a really nice car.
Thanks smile As an alround package it makes a nice road car still.Don't drive it nearly enough sadly next summer now the AC is back at full tilt!!!
The only problem with that car is the effect on an any 944 that parks next to it... I remember my old 944 turbo sat next to it on a dyno day, which was quite a tidy car, but instantly looked rather shabby..

924S/944T/944S2 since early 2000's here...currently contemplating the end of my 944 ownership for a while.. (although I still fancy owning an early series 1 car on fuchs, so I'll leave that on my list)

GC8

19,397 posts

149 months

Tuesday 29th September
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Why are you selling Ed?

edh

3,495 posts

228 months

Tuesday 29th September
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GC8 said:
Why are you selling Ed?
Bit of rationalisation going on.... I lost my rented garage for the 944 so it's been living outside for the last 9 months. Not ideal. Decided to combine the 996 and 944 into a single car.. also missing having a convertible. Finally, I had a minor issue problem at the DN24 trackday which cost me the last 2 hours of track time, so am currently cross with the car smile .

996 was sold 2 weeks ago, I'm picking up the 944 from Germany next week.A friend of mine is interested in the car, so I might retain visiting rights..

Current plan is to buy a 987 Boxster, fit proper seats, suspension, (plus oiling mods) so it can be a road / track car.

Medium term we have a plan to build a new house, including more garage space...