944 turbo, underrated?
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blade7 said:
IMI A said:
blade7 said:
I have to admit the turbo feels quite ordinary until it comes on boost. Apparently a 3.0 conversion changes that though.
Post a pic of yours - love hat car 
When they were raced the legal boost was checked. Apparently it could be fiddled higher when the front wheels were turning. It's only cheating if you get caught.
280-300bhp but very torquey just with a tune. I was v.respectful of mine it had an over boost issue for years and Jaz always used to comment how quick she was. No one inc Porsche could fix it but I never noticed. The Porsche tech goes at 100k miles it feels nice but you will grenade your engine. Fine for years and another 30-40k miles but I once went for a ride with a vey good driver and it was blistering fast cross country compared to other traffic of the day.
400bhp possible with big turbo but its a mans car and very fast. I'd crash this first corner mine was far easier to drive. A 997 turbo response by comparison is like a na car 20x easier to drive. 991 turbo s is a fighter jet and 100x easier
https://www.augmentautomotive.co.uk/augment-automo...
I love their chat too. Very mad max
400bhp possible with big turbo but its a mans car and very fast. I'd crash this first corner mine was far easier to drive. A 997 turbo response by comparison is like a na car 20x easier to drive. 991 turbo s is a fighter jet and 100x easier
https://www.augmentautomotive.co.uk/augment-automo...
I love their chat too. Very mad max
https://www.augmentautomotive.co.uk/944-turbo-race...
Now running more like 375 BHP / 500Nm courtesy of a new ported head, custom throttle body, hybrid turbo and some proper mapping. Rebuild LSD with custom dog plates and more aggressive ramp angles. Fully rose jointed suspension all round. 928 S4 front brake conversion. Being an early car we have a bias valve and no ABS.
1180kg wet weight.
70-130 it pulls 3 car lengths on my 996.1 GT3 K400 Manthey.... Love it...
Now running more like 375 BHP / 500Nm courtesy of a new ported head, custom throttle body, hybrid turbo and some proper mapping. Rebuild LSD with custom dog plates and more aggressive ramp angles. Fully rose jointed suspension all round. 928 S4 front brake conversion. Being an early car we have a bias valve and no ABS.
1180kg wet weight.
70-130 it pulls 3 car lengths on my 996.1 GT3 K400 Manthey.... Love it...
IMI A said:
Porsche I think ran with circa 410bhp at Le Mans no mech probs at all. Finished 7th not 5th but a top 10 finish miraculous. Amazing 944 you have built what tyres were you on out of interest?
The GTP Le Mans car was an absolute beast - had a chance to look at one from very close up and personal. They run a 16v head - it made a huge difference. I have a friend who converted his NA aspirated 2.5 16v to a Turbo on wet Darton sleeves, Woessner pistons, Pankl rods, ball bearing Garett, custom headers etc, MoTec and a few other bits and pieces - 500bhp on Shell V-Power all day long. His dad financed the project and has owned the car from new... Our car was on Yokohama A048 at the time. Now on R888Rs and Dunlop Direzza DZ03
Edited by Cheburator mk2 on Friday 27th March 09:11
Cheburator mk2 said:
IMI A said:
Porsche I think ran with circa 410bhp at Le Mans no mech probs at all. Finished 7th not 5th but a top 10 finish miraculous. Amazing 944 you have built what tyres were you on out of interest?
The GTP Le Mans car was an absolute beast - had a chance to look at one from very close up and personal. They run a 16v head - it made a huge difference. I have a friend who converted his NA aspirated 2.5 16v to a Turbo on wet Darton sleeves, Woessner pistons, Pankl rods, ball bearing Garett, custom headers etc, MoTec and a few other bits and pieces - 500bhp on Shell V-Power all day long. His dad financed the project and has owned the car from new... Our car was on Yokohama A048 at the time. Now on R888Rs and Dunlop Direzza DZ03
Edited by Cheburator mk2 on Friday 27th March 09:11
Penguinracer said:
Alex, do you still have your 928's?
Very much so - the 928 GTS Manual has been restored back to concourse condition, but has been stuck in storage since January. The 928 GTS Manual race car is about to receive a custom LSD, but the season looks dead in the water. The 928 S4 Manual restoration is proceeding at a steady pace. As a matter of fact I am about to put back the fuel tank having changed all fuel lines and associated hardware as well as steam cleaned the naked chassis underneath...I sat in the passenger seat of a 944 Turbo Cap car running on slicks at the 2020 RS dat at Oulton Park.
OK ... it was driven by Dan who is one of the best drivers I have sat in the passenger seat with ... but it was, honestly, amazing.
The Cups are certainly vastly under-rated ... I'm not advertising when I say that Car-Iconics have made it their business to have two ...I hope I may be doing somebody a favour !
OK ... it was driven by Dan who is one of the best drivers I have sat in the passenger seat with ... but it was, honestly, amazing.
The Cups are certainly vastly under-rated ... I'm not advertising when I say that Car-Iconics have made it their business to have two ...I hope I may be doing somebody a favour !
Just in case anyone is reading this who has a 944 turbo with a damaged engine - with time on my hands I am considering what I thought would be impossible and building my 3 litre mark 2 engine into a car myself.
It would be a big project. The engine is very special indeed and it would need a different radiator system, inter-cooler, turbo and engine management system - but I must do something to finish it off and if no one is interested in taking it on - I am just wondering if I would have the energy left to do it at home.
Anyway - any cars out there that might be suitable?
Baz
It would be a big project. The engine is very special indeed and it would need a different radiator system, inter-cooler, turbo and engine management system - but I must do something to finish it off and if no one is interested in taking it on - I am just wondering if I would have the energy left to do it at home.
Anyway - any cars out there that might be suitable?
Baz
I had a ‘91 (I think) bridge spoiler SE with the M030 pack for a couple of years.
It was a great car. It was driven hard, and it was extremely reliable.
The best thing about it was the suspension. It was agile, but extremely tied down, even on bumpy as hell back roads. Not an easy car to control a slide though... the engine power delivery characteristics and throttle modulation sometimes made it very tricky accelerating out of corners.
Way too much money now though.
It was a great car. It was driven hard, and it was extremely reliable.
The best thing about it was the suspension. It was agile, but extremely tied down, even on bumpy as hell back roads. Not an easy car to control a slide though... the engine power delivery characteristics and throttle modulation sometimes made it very tricky accelerating out of corners.
Way too much money now though.
blade7 said:
Impressive lurking Simon 
. TBH I'll be surprised if Barry finishes the engine. I think he has a fair bit of money in it already, and he's been looking to get most of it out for a while. Added to that it's still a work in progress, and there seems to be a question about turbo gearbox repair parts too.
what has become NLA? We opened the gearbox on the 944T race car - it was a matching Nr cars - it had 260k miles so I guess the same on the gearbox. The verdict - not bad at all actually.. TBH I'll be surprised if Barry finishes the engine. I think he has a fair bit of money in it already, and he's been looking to get most of it out for a while. Added to that it's still a work in progress, and there seems to be a question about turbo gearbox repair parts too.Worn synchro 3d gear - check, worn pinion bearing check, LSD plates - still serviceable, but it would have been a shame not to do it properly. The rest of the box was mint, even after a season of hard racing on it...
I owned one briefly a few years ago. I bought it from a salvage auction after the engine caught fire (common issue as the rubber hoses perish and pour fuel over the manifolds). Fixed the car by replacing all the burnt wires and drove it for a while.
It was a whole lot of fun. I ended up selling it because I had a 928 S4 which I was also playing with. In hindsight, I should have kept it and unloaded the 928 which is a lot less exciting. They've gone up in value recently. I don't think that they can be called under valued. Maybe in a few months as all values drop.
It was a whole lot of fun. I ended up selling it because I had a 928 S4 which I was also playing with. In hindsight, I should have kept it and unloaded the 928 which is a lot less exciting. They've gone up in value recently. I don't think that they can be called under valued. Maybe in a few months as all values drop.
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