Gmund cars knaresborough

Gmund cars knaresborough

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nickpan

375 posts

134 months

Friday 14th June
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BertBert said:
Or it could be that PH doesn't want to deal with the inevitable lawyer ste that turns up when you allow naming and shaming.
Go on...I’m intrigued.

911-32

80 posts

168 months

Monday 24th June
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Other forums that I know (maybe PH as well), have ended up settling claims from lawyers acting for named and shamed outfits. Even if the shaming is 100% true, the fallout from it falls on the forum owner not the poster, hence easier to have a no name and shame policy.

There is still freedom of speech - you can use your own Facebook, Twitter or whatever account to shout whatever you like. By posting it here you are basically getting PH to shout it for you and you are free of consequence.

BTW, I am not for a second defending any particular SOR dealers. Posted elsewhere, there is now a CCJ against Gmund as a matter of record.

andymc

6,326 posts

152 months

Monday 24th June
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are they still advertising on here?

BlackGT3

1,421 posts

155 months

Wednesday 26th June
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ChrisW. said:
Sorry to read about Andrew's fall from grace ... I'm sure he won't be the only dealer to fall.

Times are particularly tough for those dealers who rely predominately on classic car sales.

Seller beware ...
He has been at it for years. Hopefully, the people who have been affected by this will be able to prosecute Mearns and his Wife and recover some money.

hopeydaze

245 posts

95 months

Wednesday 26th June
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Such a bad situation for the people who put cars up for sale by SOR and have lost out. It just shows how risky SOR can be. I’ve used it to sell and didn’t realise the potential risks involved.

AW10

3,561 posts

194 months

Wednesday 26th June
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911-32 said:
Posted elsewhere, there is now a CCJ against Gmund as a matter of record.
And now a winding up petition has been filed.

MDMA .

5,063 posts

46 months

Friday 5th July
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AW10 said:
911-32 said:
Posted elsewhere, there is now a CCJ against Gmund as a matter of record.
And now a winding up petition has been filed.
https://m.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3323872

MrC986

2,403 posts

136 months

Monday 5th August
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There’s an update today on 911uk though the excerpt below will give an idea of how many unlucky people have lost serious £s.... (hopefully the Mods won’t remove it the information is in the public domain)

PS2018

216 posts

18 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Is this an issue at both ends of the transaction? The seller hasn’t received funds from the sale and the buyer may be at risk of losing the car too? or is the buyer afforded protection as the V5 has been transferred so I guess it’s eg not a stolen car (effectively it is) but an outstanding issue between seller and dealer.
Not sure how a dealer in that part of the country can chew through £2m in that time frame putting cars up for sale on SOR - unless it’s being embezzled elsewhere.

MrC986

2,403 posts

136 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Reading the posts it seems the sellers haven’t been receiving the proceeds of sale according the updates on the 911uk forum & it was the increasing frustration of non payment that led to the administration of the business by one of the members affected as well as the Google reviews campaign to try & stop anyone else becoming a victim of the companies actions. 911uk took a strong position on it & decided to let the truth be published on their platform unlike others whose advertising income seems to have taken priority scratchchin

PS2018

216 posts

18 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Yes, debatable - I get the PH stance on these types of threads but I applaud the 911uk forum policy on that.

supersport

2,890 posts

172 months

Tuesday 6th August
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PS2018 said:
Is this an issue at both ends of the transaction? The seller hasn’t received funds from the sale and the buyer may be at risk of losing the car too? or is the buyer afforded protection as the V5 has been transferred so I guess it’s eg not a stolen car (effectively it is) but an outstanding issue between seller and dealer.
Not sure how a dealer in that part of the country can chew through £2m in that time frame putting cars up for sale on SOR - unless it’s being embezzled elsewhere.
Not sure what the location in the country has to do with it.

Over the years Spec cars have had multiple 918s and Carrera GTs in stock at the same time and Gmund has had some very expensive cars in stock, although maybe not to that level. But Original 911R, 356 Speedsters - it soon adds up.

Just look at the stock ar Redline literally round the corner in Knaresborough, they make both of these look cheap.

PS2018

216 posts

18 months

Tuesday 6th August
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yes sorry @supersport - agree with your post - in terms of location i was just referring to general overheads and rent of space in what i would guess is a cheaper part of the country to have showroom space as opposed to eg central london and the general cash burn of an operation like that.
lets hypothetically assume that 100% of the stock was SOR, i couldn't see how the overheads could run above £7digits in that timeframe that the court proceedings illustrate. not my area of expertise at all i am just watching this play out and i feel for those unfortunate enough to be involved,



Edited by PS2018 on Tuesday 6th August 11:22

supersport

2,890 posts

172 months

Tuesday 6th August
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On that respect you would be right, the costs aren't remotely close to those in central London.

It wasn't like it some glass and metal shiny showroom, just a painted windowless industrial unit that, wooden sheds down the side.

The second unit was pretty much the same.

ChrisW.

3,184 posts

200 months

Tuesday 6th August
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I popped in to see Nick at RPM on Saturday.

He (they) did a fabulous job changing the clutch and associated mechanicals of my first 964RS and I pop in from time to time to pick up a can of high temperature Wurth wax ... great for retaining the originality of old cars whilst killing surface rust ...

He was saying that despite having no association with Gmund they have been caught in the cross-fire ... not what he, Andy and the team had wished for after 15 years working hard to build their business and keeping their customers coming back !

I hope this post helps to set the record straight for them ... one only has to look at McLaren residuals to realise how essential the independent dealers are to all us "Porsche nuts" !

MrC986

2,403 posts

136 months

Tuesday 6th August
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ChrisW. said:
I popped in to see Nick at RPM on Saturday.

He (they) did a fabulous job changing the clutch and associated mechanicals of my first 964RS and I pop in from time to time to pick up a can of high temperature Wurth wax ... great for retaining the originality of old cars whilst killing surface rust ...

He was saying that despite having no association with Gmund they have been caught in the cross-fire ... not what he, Andy and the team had wished for after 15 years working hard to build their business and keeping their customers coming back !

I hope this post helps to set the record straight for them ... one only has to look at McLaren residuals to realise how essential the independent dealers are to all us "Porsche nuts" !
^ the same point has been raised on 911uk as it’s unfortunate that other local specialists are affected by a different businesses sharp practices.

AW10

3,561 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th August
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PS2018 said:
as the V5 has been transferred so I guess it’s eg not a stolen car
The V5 proves absolutely nothing with respect to ownership - it merely shows the registered keeper.

darreni

2,433 posts

215 months

Wednesday 7th August
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ChrisW. said:
I popped in to see Nick at RPM on Saturday.

He (they) did a fabulous job changing the clutch and associated mechanicals of my first 964RS and I pop in from time to time to pick up a can of high temperature Wurth wax ... great for retaining the originality of old cars whilst killing surface rust ...

He was saying that despite having no association with Gmund they have been caught in the cross-fire ... not what he, Andy and the team had wished for after 15 years working hard to build their business and keeping their customers coming back !

I hope this post helps to set the record straight for them ... one only has to look at McLaren residuals to realise how essential the independent dealers are to all us "Porsche nuts" !
Chris, what is the name of the wurth product that you use, I could use something similar for my CSL

Paynewright

346 posts

22 months

Wednesday 7th August
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Centre Gravity use Wurth 0893081 which is described as cavity wax. They sprayed it on my coffin arms to stop corrosion delaminating the metalastic bushes.

I’m planning to use bilt hamber dynax wax on mine with a gun and compressor.

Edited by Paynewright on Wednesday 7th August 08:55

ChrisW.

3,184 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th August
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Wurth Schutzwachs .... Wurth Protective Wax smile

Temperature resistant up to 120C ...