993 C4S 3.8 - what's the market and value

[mjharrisonnz]

Hi,

A friend of mine is looking at a 993 C4S 3.8 done about 40-45 miles.

Obviously these are rare with the 3.8 engine etc. what do people think is the current value and desirability of these.

The car is a standard 'S' bodyshell.

Great condition and 6 speed manual.

Cheers.

[mollytherocker]

I guess this is the powerkit RS engine option?

If so, it will have a fairly high value, especially with that mileage. Assuming its a good, straight car of course.

Maybe 60k?

[Koln-RS]

Depends on lots of factors, but the very best, low mls, dealer C2S/C4Ss seem to be c.£40-60k in the current optimistic market.

[mollytherocker]

Looks like Malton have one for sale.

http://www.specialistcarsltd.co.uk/vehicle/porsche...

[Cheib]

There was one of these for sale a couple of years ago for more money than 993 turbos were at the time....took forever to sell and clearly may not gave sold for close to asking. It was 60 to 70k when 993 turbos were 50 to 60k

[mjharrisonnz]

Thanks for the info. I have confirmed it was the RS power kit upgrade option. Not sure how many were built but it does look cool. Seems as though 60-70 is the number....

[jimmy p]

mollytherocker said:

Looks like Malton have one for sale.

http://www.specialistcarsltd.co.uk/vehicle/porsche...

That wood interior is awful!! Nice on the outside but that interior is going to make that a hard sell.

[medieval]

Wood in a Porsche - I don't think so...


On reflection, ooh err

[mollytherocker]

I wouldn't get too hung up on the wood. It can be replaced quite easily.

[mjharrisonnz]

Thanks for the info.

By comparison what is the current market price for a RHD 993 RS done say 30-40 miles?

Cheers

[mollytherocker]

mjharrisonnz said:

Thanks for the info.

By comparison what is the current market price for a RHD 993 RS done say 30-40 miles?

Cheers

Probably nearly treble.

[Ryanodine]

mollytherocker said:

Probably nearly treble.

If you can find one.

[mjharrisonnz]

So about 180-220 then?

[Gary11]

mollytherocker said:

I guess this is the powerkit RS engine option?

If so, it will have a fairly high value, especially with that mileage. Assuming its a good, straight car of course.

Maybe 60k?

MTR
Its not an RS engine merely a 3.8 unit,was available in Germany as an option sadly much rarer here ,I had one in Indian red a German LHD car pre vario ram too, no sunroof or rear wiper how I wish I still had it Im trying to remember the option code and VIL designation.




This quote from another forum will give an idea of the many RS internal differences,

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The part list is a compendious one to show that factory and retrofit engine kits do not have exact identical parts as they explain in the paragraph before the list comparison.
part numbers 993.100.903.00/04 include DME, ported heads, wider valves, plastic trumpets, etc. (basically M64/20 parts) like the M64/22 S kit
Maybe I'm blind but I do not see where it says anything about DME, ported heads, wider valves, plastic trumpets, etc. (basically M64/20 parts) like the M64/22 S kit

The vram intakes were on
M64/20 the RS, M64/21 manual trans RoW(OBD1) engine, M64/22 tip trans RoW(OBD1) engine,

M64/23 is US(OBD2 w/ SAI)) manual trans. M64/24 is US(OBD2 w/ SAI)) tip trans

The non vram were on
M64/05 manual trans RoW(OBD1) engine, M64/06 tip trans RoW(OBD1) engine, M64/07 US(OBD1 w/ SAI)) manual trans. M64/08 US(OBD1 w/ SAI)) tip trans

the intake trumpets are incompatible between vram and non-vram there were basic differences in sizing and material between the /20(RS) and other vram intakes as well

there is a more complete kit for vrams that costs ~$16k US which includes;*pistons and cylinders,*o-rings,*cylinder heads,intake valves*,*exhaust valves,*camshafts,*intake connections,sealing rings,*intake manifolds,*control unit,*mufflers,*resistor, pulley, wheel hub. these cyls have the 109mm bases which require boring the case, the cylinder base gaskets are larger and require a groove in the case wall be machined in as well. The parts are all plain RS stuff.

Edited by Gary11 on Saturday 7th June 21:09