PORSCHE 911 SC Targa - £39,950 ??????

[xftdr]

Found this car at Charles Ironsides Alton - www.charlesironside.co.uk

£40 for 911sc ... supreme optimism?

[a4ash]

The way things are going with Porsche's someone will probably buy it. I've been looking lately and everything seems to be going up. I pretty much decided that an early 997 was the way to go for me as I can't make my self fall in love with the dated look and interior of 996 and will never find a good enough 993 or 964 for my budget. When I started looking there were plenty about around the £19-20k mark and now similar cars can be over £25k. My other consideration was a 996tt which were around £20k but now making nearer £30k. Everytime I get close to saving up enough the prices nudge up out of reach.

[g7jhp]

a4ash said:

The way things are going with Porsche's someone will probably buy it. I've been looking lately and everything seems to be going up. I pretty much decided that an early 997 was the way to go for me as I can't make my self fall in love with the dated look and interior of 996 and will never find a good enough 993 or 964 for my budget. When I started looking there were plenty about around the £19-20k mark and now similar cars can be over £25k. My other consideration was a 996tt which were around £20k but now making nearer £30k. Everytime I get close to saving up enough the prices nudge up out of reach.

You really are confused!

Seriously the 996 interior car be nice place if you pick the right one (the 996 turbo probably helps with more leather).

[david hockney]

To be fair the targa SC looks mint and is low miles.....still, it's 10k over price

[Haves1979]

Not sure if its the same car, but I looked at one very similar to that about 2yrs ago when it was for sale at Tom Ferguson (about £10k then....). Same colour and and similar miles, and was on a private plate of RBZ something. If it is the same car it has had some serious work as it needed some serious bodywork attention then.

[IMI A]

Car looks fantastic. I'm not sure why its regarded as overpriced as its in a gorgeous period colour and low miles. If its an original car with no restoration I think it may well be cheap car. Nothing like a targa for high days.

[Wozy68]

IMI A said:

Car looks fantastic. I'm not sure why its regarded as overpriced as its in a gorgeous period colour and low miles. If its an original car with no restoration I think it may well be cheap car. Nothing like a targa for high days.

Blimey how things change. The SC Targa was just about the cheapest 911 you could buy 5 years ago ..... nobody wanted them, low mileage or not.
What has altered? That's low mileage 993 money.

[IMI A]

Wozy68 said:

IMI A said:

Car looks fantastic. I'm not sure why its regarded as overpriced as its in a gorgeous period colour and low miles. If its an original car with no restoration I think it may well be cheap car. Nothing like a targa for high days.

Blimey how things change. The SC Targa was just about the cheapest 911 you could buy 5 years ago ..... nobody wanted them, low mileage or not.
What has altered? That's low mileage 993 money.

Show me a straight low mileage manual 993 C2 for £40k pls. That horse flew about 2 years ago. I've honestly not seen a good low miles 993 C2 for sale at that sort of money since 2012.

If people are now waking up to what a fun car an SC or 3.2 targa is surely thats a good thing? As i said before if that car is unrestored it may be good buy. If its a rust bucket thats been fixed up shouldn't be any more than £20k-£25k IMO. Its virtually impossible to find a car which is that old that is not rusty so could be a real find. Looks lovely to me anyway.

Edited to say i will raise you. If I did not have one already I'd have no qualms buying this car. Its lovely.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Edited by IMI A on Tuesday 9th December 18:21

[utgjon]

In general, SC Targa's are not particularly desirable variants.....

but cars in the condition of the one posted don't come up very often. I think it's probably worth every penny.

[Crimp]

xftdr said:

Found this car at Charles Ironsides Alton - www.charlesironside.co.uk

£40 for 911sc ... supreme optimism?

Good luck to the seller I'm sure its a nice thing.
I think I'd look at my 40k before buying that sorry.

[mollytherocker]

Lets assume its mint. In every way.

A 911SC Targa with 56k on it in a nice colour? How do you value that, it will be virtually unique.

Is it worth 40k? Sounds crazy doesnt it?

Look at it like this, a no option 981 or this?

[IMI A]

Crimp said:

xftdr said:

Found this car at Charles Ironsides Alton - www.charlesironside.co.uk

£40 for 911sc ... supreme optimism?

Good luck to the seller I'm sure its a nice thing.
I think I'd look at my 40k before buying that sorry.

Crimp I have a 1989 3.2C coupe in black with 66k miles. Nice original car with sports seats, short shift and LSD. Dealer has offered me £50k for it which means he has punter who will pay £55k-£60k for it. Thats double the money I paid for it exactly 12 months ago. I'm not selling as to replace it with a similar car like the one I've seen at Dick Lovett (which is nice but not as good as mine) is £75k! By way of comparison OPC Hatfield have an earlier long hood targa which has been fully restored so less desirable (to me) and apparently they have 3-4 potential buyers lined up at circa £140k for it. I'm not sure what this all means as I've bought mine to hoon in but the gold car for £40k doesn't seem overly pricey if it really is a mint car. It is difficult to stomach as I remember not long ago very nice Carrera 3.2 Coupes changing hands for £15k

[Wozy68]

IMI A said:

Wozy68 said:

IMI A said:

Car looks fantastic. I'm not sure why its regarded as overpriced as its in a gorgeous period colour and low miles. If its an original car with no restoration I think it may well be cheap car. Nothing like a targa for high days.

Blimey how things change. The SC Targa was just about the cheapest 911 you could buy 5 years ago ..... nobody wanted them, low mileage or not.
What has altered? That's low mileage 993 money.

Show me a straight low mileage manual 993 C2 for £40k pls. That horse flew about 2 years ago. I've honestly not seen a good low miles 993 C2 for sale at that sort of money since 2012.

If people are now waking up to what a fun car an SC or 3.2 targa is surely thats a good thing? As i said before if that car is unrestored it may be good buy. If its a rust bucket thats been fixed up shouldn't be any more than £20k-£25k IMO. Its virtually impossible to find a car which is that old that is not rusty so could be a real find. Looks lovely to me anyway.

Edited to say i will raise you. If I did not have one already I'd have no qualms buying this car. Its lovely.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Edited by IMI A on Tuesday 9th December 18:21

Then you have been looking in the wrong place ref the 993. I know of two straight NBs that sold privately with less than 70K on each for circa 40K within the last 4 months.

The link to the Supersport Targa. Silly money. I just can't see why anyone would want to spend that kind of money on that model low mileage 911. For what reason other than to store it. Again these were 15K five years ago, not at that mileage mind. The world is going mad, which I guess is good for me.
I just cant see the pleasure in ownership.

[IMI A]

Wozy68 said:

IMI A said:

Wozy68 said:

IMI A said:

Car looks fantastic. I'm not sure why its regarded as overpriced as its in a gorgeous period colour and low miles. If its an original car with no restoration I think it may well be cheap car. Nothing like a targa for high days.

Blimey how things change. The SC Targa was just about the cheapest 911 you could buy 5 years ago ..... nobody wanted them, low mileage or not.
What has altered? That's low mileage 993 money.

Show me a straight low mileage manual 993 C2 for £40k pls. That horse flew about 2 years ago. I've honestly not seen a good low miles 993 C2 for sale at that sort of money since 2012.

If people are now waking up to what a fun car an SC or 3.2 targa is surely thats a good thing? As i said before if that car is unrestored it may be good buy. If its a rust bucket thats been fixed up shouldn't be any more than £20k-£25k IMO. Its virtually impossible to find a car which is that old that is not rusty so could be a real find. Looks lovely to me anyway.

Edited to say i will raise you. If I did not have one already I'd have no qualms buying this car. Its lovely.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Edited by IMI A on Tuesday 9th December 18:21

Then you have been looking in the wrong place ref the 993. I know of two straight NBs that sold privately with less than 70K on each for circa 40K within the last 4 months.

The link to the Supersport Targa. Silly money. I just can't see why anyone would want to spend that kind of money on that model low mileage 911. For what reason other than to store it. Again these were 15K five years ago, not at that mileage mind. The world is going mad, which I guess is good for me.
I just can't see the pleasure in ownership.

Yes the red 911v 993 was good buy. Don't know the other one but all you're really saying is that 993 is undervalued even in current market which I agree with. Why wouldn't you use a low mileage car? I use mine at literally every given opportunity. Was out and about all day in my 964 today and loved every minute of it

I personally prefer that targa at Paragon to a similar priced 991 or 997. in fact a 991 targa would be circa £100k + and its never as cool as the classic targa and will only be worth £50k after 3 years. I do not understand why spending £70k on a classic car is silly money and buying a 991 and losing £50k seems okay.

[Wozy68]

IMI A said:

Yes the red 911v 993 was good buy. Don't know the other one but all you're really saying is that 993 is undervalued even in current market which I agree with. Why wouldn't you use a low mileage car? I use mine at literally every given opportunity. Was out and about all day in my 964 today and loved every minute of it

I personally prefer that targa at Paragon to a similar priced 991 or 997. in fact a 991 targa would be circa £100k + and its never as cool as the classic targa and will only be worth £50k after 3 years. I do not understand why spending £70k on a classic car is silly money and buying a 991 and losing £50k seems okay.

I can understand your thinking and it does make sense, especially if you don't mind using it. Just, that before prices went silly atraga 911 and especially a targa Supersport were not seen as good 911 drivers cars. Saying that, I've driven aircooled 911s for years, maybe owners today look at other reasons to own them.

I do believe the 993 C2/C4 are well under priced. IMO the 993 is the best real world standard 911 since the 911E of 1972/73.

[mollytherocker]

IMI A said:

I do not understand why spending £70k on a classic car is silly money and buying a 991 and losing £50k seems okay.

This is one of the factors that is pushing prices up. I was talking to the owner of a respected indy a couple of weeks ago who is building a high quality ST replica for a client. Its costing well over 100k.

I asked about the client and he said he had spent a fortune on new Astons, Ferraris etc over the years and had come to the realisation is what he actually wanted was his dream 911ST. But, a new one.

Its perfectly logical is'nt it?

[david hockney]

IMI A said:

I personally prefer that targa at Paragon to a similar priced 991 or 997. in fact a 991 targa would be circa £100k + and its never as cool as the classic targa and will only be worth £50k after 3 years. I do not understand why spending £70k on a classic car is silly money and buying a 991 and losing £50k seems okay.

This is the irony,a £100k 991 is never as cool as a classic- any Bobby Trendy would prefer to cruise the A1 in an SC rather than a new 911. You don't get many bankers or estate agents driving the old skool cars.
Keep it real- '915 not PDK' is the motto to adhere to when buying a 911.

[utgjon]

IMI A said:

Crimp I have a 1989 3.2C coupe in black with 66k miles. Nice original car with sports seats, short shift and LSD. Dealer has offered me £50k for it which means he has punter who will pay £55k-£60k for it. Thats double the money I paid for it exactly 12 months ago. I'm not selling as to replace it with a similar car like the one I've seen at Dick Lovett (which is nice but not as good as mine) is £75k! By way of comparison OPC Hatfield have an earlier long hood targa which has been fully restored so less desirable (to me) and apparently they have 3-4 potential buyers lined up at circa £140k for it. I'm not sure what this all means as I've bought mine to hoon in but the gold car for £40k doesn't seem overly pricey if it really is a mint car. It is difficult to stomach as I remember not long ago very nice Carrera 3.2 Coupes changing hands for £15k

That long hood targa car is absolutely stunning, though. Saw it at the Porsche Brands event this year and it got my 'vote' on the concourse.

In other news, the car that OPC Newcastle built (924 Turbo) was reportedly receiving offers over £30k just before i got my silver rose. OPC's line was that Porsche themselves wanted the car for their collection/museum.

[Haves1979]

Found a pic, not sure if it was the same car but v similar:

[mollytherocker]

Haves1979 said:

Found a pic, not sure if it was the same car but v similar:

Maybe, but I can remember when you could buy a reasonable house for £10999. And a Curly Wurly was 4p.

Change happens.