Alternative heating

Alternative heating

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Russwhitehouse

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962 posts

132 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
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Gents
Anyone have any experience of decent alternatives to exhaust heat exchangers to heat early 911's? Mine is a 1969 car built for rallying, as a result, the heat exchangers and all heater related hoses are gone to keep weight down. All well and good, but at this time of year the car can get uncomfortably cold, particularly for the navigator, making it hard to concentrate. Also getting problems with demisting of windscreen. Any ideas that don't involve reinstating heat exchangers? The controls on the dash are still there as is the gubbins on the other side under the bonnet, but as it stands obviously only let cold air in. I believe there was a petrol powered heater made by Webasto, but it sounds a little too "bomb like" to me!

thegoose

8,075 posts

211 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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A heated windscreen and thermal underwear?

www.heatedwindscreen.com

graemel

7,035 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Heated front screen definitely. But in truth you need to reinstate the heat exchangers to make it work.

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Mixed reviews and of limited effect but for £11 its better than nothing?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Carpoint-Powerful-Heater-D...

Yellow491

2,925 posts

120 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Webasto type petrol heater,works a treat

Russwhitehouse

Original Poster:

962 posts

132 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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I just have misgivings about a heater that uses petrol as fuel and is installed right next to the tank! Particularly in a competition car, I don't think it would get through scrutineering apart from anything else. Electric would seem the way to go, but the ones on the market all seem a bit crap.

AW10

4,440 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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The problem with electric heaters is their power source - the alternator. Let's say your alternator is rated at 100 amps - that only 1200 watts. If your fuel pump and lights and driving lights are using perhaps 3-400 watts that only leaves you 800 watts. That's not a lot of heat in a moving car where cold fresh air will be coming in through vents and leaks. And any which way an electric heater needs to be wired to the battery to be capable of much help - through a lighter plug you'll struggle to get more than 15 amps = 180 watts.

Yellow491

2,925 posts

120 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Russwhitehouse said:
I just have misgivings about a heater that uses petrol as fuel and is installed right next to the tank! Particularly in a competition car, I don't think it would get through scrutineering apart from anything else. Electric would seem the way to go, but the ones on the market all seem a bit crap.
The electric heaters are useless,front heated screen is good.I have been running as have porsche petrol heater for years,no problem with scrutts either so far!
The petrol heater can be fitted into the smugglers box,i have seen flexy pipe fitted run inside because of no heater channels,connected back up to heat exchangers etc.

Fishy Dave

1,027 posts

246 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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I can recommend heated jacket liners, I used Gerbings products for years in my unheated Caterham race car and Motorbike. smile

smudger911

496 posts

259 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Russwhitehouse said:
Gents
Anyone have any experience of decent alternatives to exhaust heat exchangers to heat early 911's? Mine is a 1969 car built for rallying, as a result, the heat exchangers and all heater related hoses are gone to keep weight down. All well and good, but at this time of year the car can get uncomfortably cold, particularly for the navigator, making it hard to concentrate. Also getting problems with demisting of windscreen. Any ideas that don't involve reinstating heat exchangers? The controls on the dash are still there as is the gubbins on the other side under the bonnet, but as it stands obviously only let cold air in. I believe there was a petrol powered heater made by Webasto, but it sounds a little too "bomb like" to me!
Have you been over to Impactbumpers or DDK forums? Lots of bods over there who run very similar 911s.

Richard Hamilton

523 posts

262 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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smudger911 said:
Russwhitehouse said:
Gents
Anyone have any experience of decent alternatives to exhaust heat exchangers to heat early 911's? Mine is a 1969 car built for rallying, as a result, the heat exchangers and all heater related hoses are gone to keep weight down. All well and good, but at this time of year the car can get uncomfortably cold, particularly for the navigator, making it hard to concentrate. Also getting problems with demisting of windscreen. Any ideas that don't involve reinstating heat exchangers? The controls on the dash are still there as is the gubbins on the other side under the bonnet, but as it stands obviously only let cold air in. I believe there was a petrol powered heater made by Webasto, but it sounds a little too "bomb like" to me!
Have you been over to Impactbumpers or DDK forums? Lots of bods over there who run very similar 911s.
I seem to recall a chap on impactbumpers.com named ?Johnny Hart? who made some electric heaters for his SC some time ago.