Who builds the best outlaw 911 in the UK

[1602Mark]

I'm gutted that I missed the boat on getting an air cooled 911. Are there any good looking outlaw 996?

[Cheib]

I much prefer the look of the blue car that GTRene posted. The yellow car to me looks like a Singer pastiche and is none the better for it....Singer are in a class of their own and trying to impersonate one is always going to be very,very difficult. Their builds are about unrivalled build quality and attention to details. I quite like the look of the blue car but don't like the interior colour and whilst I can see the appeal for some of the Turbo motor I suspect traction will be a major issue....all you would ever need in a longhood car is 280 to 300 bhp and there are plenty of options to do that with a naturally aspirated engine.

[Yellow491]

If thats the best they can do to fit the rear bumper On the yellow car or spend on a quality moulding,i wonder what else there is you cant see!
Nothing wrong with traction and turbo if done correctly, just a shame about the Ali welding that's on full view, after All these cars wont be cheap.

[PhantomPH]

I keep looking at the advert for the green airride car for sale at Duke of London. Seems like a great price and plenty of scope for 'backdating' when I can justify the spends....

(I really like the long hood/bonnet look of the earlier cars of the 60's)

[pete.g]

1602Mark said:

I'm gutted that I missed the boat on getting an air cooled 911. Are there any good looking outlaw 996?

You can still buy an air-cooled 911.

I'm not sure about the whole outlaw, backdate, resto-mod thing, but I definitely would not start with a 996 if that was the look I wanted.

Maybe a ducktail spoiler and Fuchs alloys might work but beyond that I think you'd be better to buy a car with the looks you want in the first place.

[GTRene]

See, this is what I like, relative standard, its (engine etc) overhauled just to make it better, also given it a bit more hp, racaro's, a half cage behind the seats, a few lightweight items, just a lovely 911 carrera for not to much.

[1602Mark]

pete.g said:

1602Mark said:

I'm gutted that I missed the boat on getting an air cooled 911. Are there any good looking outlaw 996?

You can still buy an air-cooled 911.

I'm not sure about the whole outlaw, backdate, resto-mod thing, but I definitely would not start with a 996 if that was the look I wanted.

Maybe a ducktail spoiler and Fuchs alloys might work but beyond that I think you'd be better to buy a car with the looks you want in the first place.

I should have been clearer. I meant I couldn't get one at my kind of price point / budget, which would be at 996 level at best.

[CarreraLightweightRacing]

1602Mark said:

I should have been clearer. I meant I couldn't get one at my kind of price point / budget, which would be at 996 level at best.

I know of a pretty decent one that might be going to auction fairly soon Mark

Edited by CarreraLightweightRacing on Saturday 2nd January 13:15

[Cheib]

The problem with hot rodding 911’s is it is so bloody expensive. That’s largely driven by the value of the better cars because there are queues of people willing to spend a minimum of £100k on restoring say a 67 S it kind of puts a floor on the costs of all those bodywwork, engine, interior specialists

[1602Mark]

CarreraLightweightRacing said:

1602Mark said:

I should have been clearer. I meant I couldn't get one at my kind of price point / budget, which would be at 996 level at best.

I know of a pretty decent one that might be going to auction fairly soon Mark

Edited by CarreraLightweightRacing on Saturday 2nd January 13:15

Any more details?

Really like the pedals pictured above. One of the reasons I wanted a LHD 1602 is because of the Porsche like floor hinged pedals. I may try and mimic those.

[pete.g]

1602Mark said:

pete.g said:

1602Mark said:

I'm gutted that I missed the boat on getting an air cooled 911. Are there any good looking outlaw 996?

You can still buy an air-cooled 911.

I'm not sure about the whole outlaw, backdate, resto-mod thing, but I definitely would not start with a 996 if that was the look I wanted.

Maybe a ducktail spoiler and Fuchs alloys might work but beyond that I think you'd be better to buy a car with the looks you want in the first place.

I should have been clearer. I meant I couldn't get one at my kind of price point / budget, which would be at 996 level at best.

No problem - I fully understand. I am trying to go back in time myself, having a 20 year old 986 and a thirty year old Golf GTI 8v, I'm now looking at 40-50 year old German cars, but project cars are very expensive.

The problem is that this has become a big business and a car that might have cost £30 to buy and £20k to restore not long ago is now £40-60k to buy and the same again or more to restore/modify

[Paynewright]

I think buying one privately already built is the way to go. When an owner has gone off piste with their build, 90% of potential Porsche buyers will be put off as not factory. Rarely is the sale price greater than the build costs.

I’m in the same boat - would love a simpler, earlier air cooled but will likely stick with my clean and useable 996.2 C2. Either that or buy an MGB GT :-0

[Steve Rance]

GTRene said:

See, this is what I like, relative standard, its (engine etc) overhauled just to make it better, also given it a bit more hp, racaro's, a half cage behind the seats, a few lightweight items, just a lovely 911 carrera for not to much.

Nice car. Where is it for sale?

[Cheib]

Paynewright said:

I think buying one privately already built is the way to go. When an owner has gone off piste with their build, 90% of potential Porsche buyers will be put off as not factory. Rarely is the sale price greater than the build costs.

I’m in the same boat - would love a simpler, earlier air cooled but will likely stick with my clean and useable 996.2 C2. Either that or buy an MGB GT :-0

Yup...these cars (unless they’re Singer’s!) always fetch less than build cost. They’re not easy cars to buy though...a lot of due diligence needed! What amazes me is how they often come up for sale relatively soon after they’ve been built.

[GTRene]

Steve Rance said:

Nice car. Where is it for sale?

in Almelo the Netherlands, I did not mentioned that and more because I maybe take a look myself in a few weeks if its still there, its not widely on many car sale websites advertised, so not for to many eyes to see.

[dinkel]

Bij wie Rene?

[Taffy66]

http://www.911-retro-works.co.uk/index.html
These guys have a great reputation and and don't take the mickey on prices.

[Cheib]

Taffy66 said:

http://www.911-retro-works.co.uk/index.html
These guys have a great reputation and and don't take the mickey on prices.

Not seen them before Taffy. How much is a typical build ?

[hot66]

They look rank though ! .

[Taffy66]

Cheib said:

Not seen them before Taffy. How much is a typical build ?

I phoned them last year and they quoted me about £100k including the donor car which they supply. The main point is they don't seem to overcharge on 'Porsche Tax' and keep the quality high at the same time. Lovely guy to speak to on the phone with some great down to earth advice.