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Geneve

3,867 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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pete.g said:
I get it, right up until 'low mileage'.

Original, unmolested and meticulously well maintained would be a much better way of thinking.

What's the point in having a car that's great to drive if its value is enhanced by not driving it?
I was referring to the 'collectible' market where sale values are enhanced by lower mileage. For many others there is greater accessibility if higher mls is not a concern.

And it doesn't necessarily follow that low mileage cars don't get used. I know quite a few owners who drive modern Porsches, and the like, everyday, but have an aircooled 911 in the garage, under a cover and trickle charger, that will do a couple of thousand mls pa when the weather and mood suits.

LordHaveMurci

12,045 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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anonymous said:
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I read a post on a 996 forum recently where an owner stated that they hoped values DIDN'T rise as that would probably result in them being wary of using the car they bought to ENJOY, ever mindful of the new 'value' of the car.



rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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I'm with CMoose on this one. I've sold several cars in the past year because putting miles on them reduced their value. I understand where Mike is coming from,but then he knows some very wealthy guys for whom having a 2.7RS under a cover in the garage alongside a Sport Classic is a very real situation. And I don't mean that as an insult in any way, Mike. But, 'keeping it real'.....

....I think that's why Boxsters seem such good value for money - buy a 3.2S for as little as £4k and drove it without worrying about the mies devaluing it! Now that 996s are being talked up in value, watch the price of the C2S/C4S rise again...

Geneve

3,867 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Sorry, the point was making wasn't to do with values, it was all to do with the unique pleasure I believe the 'aircooled' 911s provide - whether spending £30k or £100k++.

In this context, I particularly like the 3.2s/964s/993s models, which offer reasonable affordability, with some capital protection, a good service/parts network, modern(ish) features and, for me and many, a driving experience that is always rewarding.

I know it's a much used analogy, but I put these, and the pre-74 911s, in the same category as vinyl albums, 35mm rangefinders, mechanical chronometers........yes, you can still use them everyday (and for many years I did), but probably best savoured on the right occasion.


Geneve

3,867 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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anonymous said:
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Anyone who drives around in a "clapped out old car with extensive rot" is deluded.

I'm referring to cars that are in optimal condition, sometimes to original ex-factory spec, sometimes with subtle mods, set up and maintained to modern standards.



PistonBroker

2,420 posts

227 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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rubystone said:
Now that 996s are being talked up in value, watch the price of the C2S/C4S rise again...
I note there's a 996 in this month's Classic Cars mag. An article about Porsches tipped to rise.

I just wish my bank balance could keep up with my aspirations!

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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Geneve said:
Sorry, the point was making wasn't to do with values, it was all to do with the unique pleasure I believe the 'aircooled' 911s provide - whether spending £30k or £100k++.

In this context, I particularly like the 3.2s/964s/993s models, which offer reasonable affordability, with some capital protection, a good service/parts network, modern(ish) features and, for me and many, a driving experience that is always rewarding.

I know it's a much used analogy, but I put these, and the pre-74 911s, in the same category as vinyl albums, 35mm rangefinders, mechanical chronometers........yes, you can still use them everyday (and for many years I did), but probably best savoured on the right occasion.
Couldn't have put it better. Everyday (10 miles to work, each way) I choose between my 2004 C4S manual coupe and my 964 C4 manual cab. If the weather's fine, I grab the 964 keys every time! It's just so...analogue.

KIPSTER

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216 posts

199 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Well.......slight change of plan. I have decided to work with 911 Retro Works and am now on the lookout for a GOOD impact bumper 911.
This will open a whole new can of worms amongst the forum members and the purists........
So any suggestions where to find a decent example (may have dodgy bodywork) but mechanically sound, please let me know.
Regards,
Martin

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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KIPSTER said:
Well.......slight change of plan. I have decided to work with 911 Retro Works and am now on the lookout for a GOOD impact bumper 911.
This will open a whole new can of worms amongst the forum members and the purists........
So any suggestions where to find a decent example (may have dodgy bodywork) but mechanically sound, please let me know.
Regards,
Martin
still buy the best as you can afford dodgy bodywork can easy be £20k to fix right !

you want the best start imo.

Desert Dragon

1,445 posts

85 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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anonymous said:
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Accent aside you'll be interested to watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sQDR1-ns8s

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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KIPSTER said:
Well.......slight change of plan. I have decided to work with 911 Retro Works and am now on the lookout for a GOOD impact bumper 911.
This will open a whole new can of worms amongst the forum members and the purists........
So any suggestions where to find a decent example (may have dodgy bodywork) but mechanically sound, please let me know.
Regards,
Martin
I look forward to seeing this project unfold! The IB scene seems very vibrant: https://www.impactbumpers.com

I see that Retro Works is in Mirfield. These guys are good and may know of something coming up for sale: http://www.revolution-porsche.co.uk/about-us