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Steve Rance said:
v8ksn said:
Mr Rance, that is one SEXY car!!! 
Why thank you! Hows the search for a donor car for your next project?
I must say though, I am not missing the GT3 as much as I thought I would be but I am sure when the weather returns, the thirst will too.
On a completely unrelated side note, I drove an original Lotus Elise the other day on damp and greasy B roads, I didn't know they were such fun!
Cheib said:
g7jhp said:
IMI A said:
Yes the original Porsche GB demonstrator. I believe the only mint green 964 turbo in the UK and its a rare 3.6. What do you think the right money is if a good car with no stories is say £160k-£250k depending on mileage?
Well Paul Stephens have a black 37k mile 964 3.6 turbo up for £225k.I'd say that minty is one of a kind due to the colour scheme and history (pre-crash) so as long as the repair has been done properly it's still a very desirable car.
Would I pay £120k, no, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone did as it's so unique.
IMI A said:
I think someone would maybe buy it at £120k but it would need to be sold via a reputable Indy who know 964 turbos with a full health sign off and 12 month warranty. As a private sale anything above £100k let alone a classic is a tough sell.
Sounds like a lot to me - as mentioned earlier I got £k150 ish for my 3.6 Turbo about 13 months ago , Showroom perfect , top end re build , full bare metal respray , full Speedline refurb , Internal refurb , brake calliper refurb - literally everything was done on the car - it had 68,000 K - now this was a RHD car Ex Singapore (4 owners inc me) it was also not it's original colour - but £k 20 (max would have put that right) - so say £k 170 (if the original colour was important to the new owner) - It was 100 % immaculate in every way - still took 4 months to sell : hope that this helps 
Edited by RSVP911 on Thursday 3rd January 20:28
RSVP911 said:
Sounds like a lot to me - as mentioned earlier I got £k150 ish for my 3.6 Turbo about 13 months ago , Showroom perfect , top end re build , full bare metal respray , full Speedline refurb , Internal refurb , brake calliper refurb - top quality reproduction engine bay, colour code and underbonnet stickers- literally everything was done on the car - it had 68,000 K - now this was a RHD car Ex Singapore (4 owners inc me) it was also not it's original colour - but £k 20 (max would have put that right) - so say £k 170 (if the original colour was important to the new owner) - It was 100 % immaculate in every way - still took 4 months to sell : hope that this helps
Edited by RSVP911 on Thursday 3rd January 20:28
Slippydiff said:
RSVP911 said:
Sounds like a lot to me - as mentioned earlier I got £k150 ish for my 3.6 Turbo about 13 months ago , Showroom perfect , top end re build , full bare metal respray , full Speedline refurb , Internal refurb , brake calliper refurb - top quality reproduction engine bay, colour code and underbonnet stickers- literally everything was done on the car - it had 68,000 K - now this was a RHD car Ex Singapore (4 owners inc me) it was also not it's original colour - but £k 20 (max would have put that right) - so say £k 170 (if the original colour was important to the new owner) - It was 100 % immaculate in every way - still took 4 months to sell : hope that this helps
Edited by RSVP911 on Thursday 3rd January 20:28
Exactly , as I say , original owner bought it in Horizon Blue Metallic and immmediatly re coloured to Polar Silver all those years ago. So when I did the bare metal resprey I could have gone back to HBM but I decided that it should remain PS as it had been that colour for virtually all its life - hence the need for top quality (which they were - quite amazing actually) stickers. (would have needed these either way as you can’t do a full glass out respray and retain the original stickers no matter what colour you go for.)
Miss that car - it’s sooooo pretty
RSVP911 said:
Slippydiff said:
RSVP911 said:
Sounds like a lot to me - as mentioned earlier I got £k150 ish for my 3.6 Turbo about 13 months ago , Showroom perfect , top end re build , full bare metal respray , full Speedline refurb , Internal refurb , brake calliper refurb - top quality reproduction engine bay, colour code and underbonnet stickers- literally everything was done on the car - it had 68,000 K - now this was a RHD car Ex Singapore (4 owners inc me) it was also not it's original colour - but £k 20 (max would have put that right) - so say £k 170 (if the original colour was important to the new owner) - It was 100 % immaculate in every way - still took 4 months to sell : hope that this helps
Edited by RSVP911 on Thursday 3rd January 20:28
Exactly , as I say , original owner bought it in Horizon Blue Metallic and immmediatly re coloured to Polar Silver all those years ago. So when I did the bare metal resprey I could have gone back to HBM but I decided that it should remain PS as it had been that colour for virtually all its life - hence the need for top quality (which they were - quite amazing actually) stickers. (would have needed these either way as you can’t do a full glass out respray and retain the original stickers no matter what colour you go for.)
Miss that car - it’s sooooo pretty
Problem is, you're not comparing like for like. It's a UK car in a very desirable colour from the factory. There will be some premium in the colour alone - but I agree that it's difficult to value. There are no bargains out there although I think the Alzen car that sold recently represented fair value.
@RSVP911 - I think I tried to buy your old front bumper from RPM when your car was being restored. Didn't get it in the end but recently found another via ebay which was painted Mint Green at some stage in its life
@RSVP911 - I think I tried to buy your old front bumper from RPM when your car was being restored. Didn't get it in the end but recently found another via ebay which was painted Mint Green at some stage in its life
SignalGruen said:
Problem is, you're not comparing like for like. It's a UK car in a very desirable colour from the factory. There will be some premium in the colour alone - but I agree that it's difficult to value. There are no bargains out there although I think the Alzen car that sold recently represented fair value.
@RSVP911 - I think I tried to buy your old front bumper from RPM when your car was being restored. Didn't get it in the end but recently found another via ebay which was painted Mint Green at some stage in its life
Funny - small world @RSVP911 - I think I tried to buy your old front bumper from RPM when your car was being restored. Didn't get it in the end but recently found another via ebay which was painted Mint Green at some stage in its life
IMI A said:
RSVP911 said:
Slippydiff said:
RSVP911 said:
Sounds like a lot to me - as mentioned earlier I got £k150 ish for my 3.6 Turbo about 13 months ago , Showroom perfect , top end re build , full bare metal respray , full Speedline refurb , Internal refurb , brake calliper refurb - top quality reproduction engine bay, colour code and underbonnet stickers- literally everything was done on the car - it had 68,000 K - now this was a RHD car Ex Singapore (4 owners inc me) it was also not it's original colour - but £k 20 (max would have put that right) - so say £k 170 (if the original colour was important to the new owner) - It was 100 % immaculate in every way - still took 4 months to sell : hope that this helps
Edited by RSVP911 on Thursday 3rd January 20:28
Exactly , as I say , original owner bought it in Horizon Blue Metallic and immmediatly re coloured to Polar Silver all those years ago. So when I did the bare metal resprey I could have gone back to HBM but I decided that it should remain PS as it had been that colour for virtually all its life - hence the need for top quality (which they were - quite amazing actually) stickers. (would have needed these either way as you can’t do a full glass out respray and retain the original stickers no matter what colour you go for.)
Miss that car - it’s sooooo pretty
Edited by RSVP911 on Friday 4th January 09:41
RSVP911 said:
IMI A said:
RSVP911 said:
Slippydiff said:
RSVP911 said:
Sounds like a lot to me - as mentioned earlier I got £k150 ish for my 3.6 Turbo about 13 months ago , Showroom perfect , top end re build , full bare metal respray , full Speedline refurb , Internal refurb , brake calliper refurb - top quality reproduction engine bay, colour code and underbonnet stickers- literally everything was done on the car - it had 68,000 K - now this was a RHD car Ex Singapore (4 owners inc me) it was also not it's original colour - but £k 20 (max would have put that right) - so say £k 170 (if the original colour was important to the new owner) - It was 100 % immaculate in every way - still took 4 months to sell : hope that this helps
Edited by RSVP911 on Thursday 3rd January 20:28
Exactly , as I say , original owner bought it in Horizon Blue Metallic and immmediatly re coloured to Polar Silver all those years ago. So when I did the bare metal resprey I could have gone back to HBM but I decided that it should remain PS as it had been that colour for virtually all its life - hence the need for top quality (which they were - quite amazing actually) stickers. (would have needed these either way as you can’t do a full glass out respray and retain the original stickers no matter what colour you go for.)
Miss that car - it’s sooooo pretty
Edited by RSVP911 on Friday 4th January 09:41
I can understand why owners change colour though as I still get a tad annoyed with myself allowing an OPC salesman to talk me out of Gulf Blue when ordering my 997 turbo! School boy error not to trust my own judgement as I was recently quoted £30k to change the colour (to Porsche factory standard i.e. back to bare metal, then body in white etc).
n12maser said:
Yes, but particularly so for RHD cars 1989 to 1990 which have a pedal box with a (tiny) footrest between the clutch and brake pedals. Pretty unusable. 1991 onwards it has the better pedal box that carried over to the 993, i.e. a bigger footrest to the left of the clutch.
I never found the pedal box to be an issue in my RHD 1990. On most roads and track my left foot was always ready for use, gently resting on the clutch pedal until called upon. The few times that I needed to go on the motorway where the my left foot would see less action, I would you use the rest positioned behind and between the clutch and brake pedals. Soon became natural and comfortable.boxsey said:
I never found the pedal box to be an issue in my RHD 1990. On most roads and track my left foot was always ready for use, gently resting on the clutch pedal until called upon. The few times that I needed to go on the motorway where the my left foot would see less action, I would you use the rest positioned behind and between the clutch and brake pedals. Soon became natural and comfortable.
fair enough, each to own. personally it was the thing that annoyed me about my 964 more than anything else - maybe partly because I'm 6 2" and size 11 feet, I just could not get in a comfortable position vs the 993. My left leg would be bent at the knee and left foot on the car mat. just something to watch out for for prospective buyers I guess, may be a problem for some and not at all for others. Either way, Porsche probably changed the pedal box in 1991 for a reason!n12maser said:
fair enough, each to own. personally it was the thing that annoyed me about my 964 more than anything else - maybe partly because I'm 6 2" and size 11 feet, I just could not get in a comfortable position vs the 993. My left leg would be bent at the knee and left foot on the car mat. just something to watch out for for prospective buyers I guess, may be a problem for some and not at all for others. Either way, Porsche probably changed the pedal box in 1991 for a reason!
I agree it was a good change and probably done by Porsche after listening to initial complaints from owners. I neglected to mention that I also got rid of the padding in both footwells (like many they were soaking wet and rotting!) and replaced them with the 964 cup car style wooden floor boards which were better at supporting my heel. Gassing Station | Porsche Classics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff