Which Porsche would you modify/hot rod and why?
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Funny you mention this, I weighed it the other day and it came as follows:
FL- 196.3kg FR- 191kg Front total 387.6kg
RL- 370.8kg RR-376.9kg Rear total 747.7kg
Total: 1135kg or 1101kg dry.
This is however fully carpeted, all trim and 4 seats/seat belts... so another 44kg potential which would mean a theoretical 1057kg is possible and still be road legal. Also I haven't trimmed much out of the wiring harnesses. So my feeling is somewhere is the region of 1050kg (dry) 1083.5kg (wet but no fuel) is possible.
Thanks RichardFL- 196.3kg FR- 191kg Front total 387.6kg
RL- 370.8kg RR-376.9kg Rear total 747.7kg
Total: 1135kg or 1101kg dry.
This is however fully carpeted, all trim and 4 seats/seat belts... so another 44kg potential which would mean a theoretical 1057kg is possible and still be road legal. Also I haven't trimmed much out of the wiring harnesses. So my feeling is somewhere is the region of 1050kg (dry) 1083.5kg (wet but no fuel) is possible.
Good to see you have weighed car now and confirmed the deductions, and that is a lite 996.
Has anyone got a real on the road weight for a 997 GT3 comfort please. Mines a real poker 1495 kg and that’s with a Kline exhaust and manifolds Recaro buckets + half cage and 3/4 tank of fuel no driver.
Since then done liteblox battery, removed air bags (all) rear and side window Perspex, removed radio, sat nav, amp, speakers and added OZ alloys. So another 59 kg saving that’s about 1430 kg ( TBC) only 35kg heavier than Porsche claim WTF!
Orangecurry said:
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Off topic. That reminds me when I was club racing, fuel was always the minimum needed to finish.CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Screenwash fluid drained -1kg
I remember once waiting on the grid, thinking I wasn't happy with the fuel level and maybe I needed another 5 litres. An hour later, I spluttered to an ignominious halt on the last lap whilst in.... P1. D'oh!!
I've had a few old 911s over the years. This one was a very tired, very rattly, mildly rusty 1982 3.0SC when I bought it a decade ago.
I didn't set out to "backdate" it as such in order to copy a particular model, but I wanted a more classic look and more modern performance. I cherrypicked bits from throughout the Porsche back catalogue; trims from the 60's, panels from the early 70's, seat's from the early 90's, engine from a Varioram 993 and a few custom bits thrown in too. If it's there it's because I like it that way, regardless of whether a man with a clipboard and an adenoidal voice thinks it should be.
It now weighs a smidge under 1100kg and has a smidge over 300bhp. I have other cars that would show it a clean pair of heels, but it's fast enough to be involving and brings a smile every time I take it out. It cost me well under 6-figures to build, including the car which was bought at a time when you could get an MoT'd, driving, aircooled 911 for less than an engine these days.
I didn't set out to "backdate" it as such in order to copy a particular model, but I wanted a more classic look and more modern performance. I cherrypicked bits from throughout the Porsche back catalogue; trims from the 60's, panels from the early 70's, seat's from the early 90's, engine from a Varioram 993 and a few custom bits thrown in too. If it's there it's because I like it that way, regardless of whether a man with a clipboard and an adenoidal voice thinks it should be.
It now weighs a smidge under 1100kg and has a smidge over 300bhp. I have other cars that would show it a clean pair of heels, but it's fast enough to be involving and brings a smile every time I take it out. It cost me well under 6-figures to build, including the car which was bought at a time when you could get an MoT'd, driving, aircooled 911 for less than an engine these days.
BrewsterBear said:
I've had a few old 911s over the years. This one was a very tired, very rattly, mildly rusty 1982 3.0SC when I bought it a decade ago.
I didn't set out to "backdate" it as such in order to copy a particular model, but I wanted a more classic look and more modern performance. I cherrypicked bits from throughout the Porsche back catalogue; trims from the 60's, panels from the early 70's, seat's from the early 90's, engine from a Varioram 993 and a few custom bits thrown in too. If it's there it's because I like it that way, regardless of whether a man with a clipboard and an adenoidal voice thinks it should be.
It now weighs a smidge under 1100kg and has a smidge over 300bhp. I have other cars that would show it a clean pair of heels, but it's fast enough to be involving and brings a smile every time I take it out. It cost me well under 6-figures to build, including the car which was bought at a time when you could get an MoT'd, driving, aircooled 911 for less than an engine these days.
Well played Sir, beautiful car and the pictures are top draw. A decade of hard work to now be savored and enjoyed I didn't set out to "backdate" it as such in order to copy a particular model, but I wanted a more classic look and more modern performance. I cherrypicked bits from throughout the Porsche back catalogue; trims from the 60's, panels from the early 70's, seat's from the early 90's, engine from a Varioram 993 and a few custom bits thrown in too. If it's there it's because I like it that way, regardless of whether a man with a clipboard and an adenoidal voice thinks it should be.
It now weighs a smidge under 1100kg and has a smidge over 300bhp. I have other cars that would show it a clean pair of heels, but it's fast enough to be involving and brings a smile every time I take it out. It cost me well under 6-figures to build, including the car which was bought at a time when you could get an MoT'd, driving, aircooled 911 for less than an engine these days.
BrewsterBear said:
I've had a few old 911s over the years. This one was a very tired, very rattly, mildly rusty 1982 3.0SC when I bought it a decade ago.
I didn't set out to "backdate" it as such in order to copy a particular model, but I wanted a more classic look and more modern performance. I cherrypicked bits from throughout the Porsche back catalogue; trims from the 60's, panels from the early 70's, seat's from the early 90's, engine from a Varioram 993 and a few custom bits thrown in too. If it's there it's because I like it that way, regardless of whether a man with a clipboard and an adenoidal voice thinks it should be.
It now weighs a smidge under 1100kg and has a smidge over 300bhp. I have other cars that would show it a clean pair of heels, but it's fast enough to be involving and brings a smile every time I take it out. It cost me well under 6-figures to build, including the car which was bought at a time when you could get an MoT'd, driving, aircooled 911 for less than an engine these days.
Exhaust not my thing, but everything else about it is absolutely stunning. I didn't set out to "backdate" it as such in order to copy a particular model, but I wanted a more classic look and more modern performance. I cherrypicked bits from throughout the Porsche back catalogue; trims from the 60's, panels from the early 70's, seat's from the early 90's, engine from a Varioram 993 and a few custom bits thrown in too. If it's there it's because I like it that way, regardless of whether a man with a clipboard and an adenoidal voice thinks it should be.
It now weighs a smidge under 1100kg and has a smidge over 300bhp. I have other cars that would show it a clean pair of heels, but it's fast enough to be involving and brings a smile every time I take it out. It cost me well under 6-figures to build, including the car which was bought at a time when you could get an MoT'd, driving, aircooled 911 for less than an engine these days.
Consider my hat well and truly doffed to you sir.
THAT, is a Porsche hotrod.
If it's any consolation, I'm not a fan of the items Singer use either
Singer's design should really ape the originals (IMO) in both size and spacing :
Either fabricated from some nice thickwall stainless steel (brushed) or the same but ceramic coated in the colour of your choice (within reason ...)
Singer's design should really ape the originals (IMO) in both size and spacing :
Either fabricated from some nice thickwall stainless steel (brushed) or the same but ceramic coated in the colour of your choice (within reason ...)
Edited by Slippydiff on Sunday 18th October 19:37
Cunno said:
Thanks Richard
Good to see you have weighed car now and confirmed the deductions, and that is a lite 996.
Has anyone got a real on the road weight for a 997 GT3 comfort please. Mines a real poker 1495 kg and that’s with a Kline exhaust and manifolds Recaro buckets + half cage and 3/4 tank of fuel no driver.
Since then done liteblox battery, removed air bags (all) rear and side window Perspex, removed radio, sat nav, amp, speakers and added OZ alloys. So another 59 kg saving that’s about 1430 kg ( TBC) only 35kg heavier than Porsche claim WTF!
That’s interesting to read cos a while ago another PHer had his 996.2 GT3 weighted at CG and it came in at 1380kg which was exactly the same as the Porsche’s claimed weight. And his car had the heavy leather ‘sofas’ (no cage but unsure of fuel level).Good to see you have weighed car now and confirmed the deductions, and that is a lite 996.
Has anyone got a real on the road weight for a 997 GT3 comfort please. Mines a real poker 1495 kg and that’s with a Kline exhaust and manifolds Recaro buckets + half cage and 3/4 tank of fuel no driver.
Since then done liteblox battery, removed air bags (all) rear and side window Perspex, removed radio, sat nav, amp, speakers and added OZ alloys. So another 59 kg saving that’s about 1430 kg ( TBC) only 35kg heavier than Porsche claim WTF!
BrewsterBear said:
I've had a few old 911s over the years. This one was a very tired, very rattly, mildly rusty 1982 3.0SC when I bought it a decade ago.
I didn't set out to "backdate" it as such in order to copy a particular model, but I wanted a more classic look and more modern performance. I cherrypicked bits from throughout the Porsche back catalogue; trims from the 60's, panels from the early 70's, seat's from the early 90's, engine from a Varioram 993 and a few custom bits thrown in too. If it's there it's because I like it that way, regardless of whether a man with a clipboard and an adenoidal voice thinks it should be.
It now weighs a smidge under 1100kg and has a smidge over 300bhp. I have other cars that would show it a clean pair of heels, but it's fast enough to be involving and brings a smile every time I take it out. It cost me well under 6-figures to build, including the car which was bought at a time when you could get an MoT'd, driving, aircooled 911 for less than an engine these days.
That's bite the back of your hand beautiful. Stunning. I didn't set out to "backdate" it as such in order to copy a particular model, but I wanted a more classic look and more modern performance. I cherrypicked bits from throughout the Porsche back catalogue; trims from the 60's, panels from the early 70's, seat's from the early 90's, engine from a Varioram 993 and a few custom bits thrown in too. If it's there it's because I like it that way, regardless of whether a man with a clipboard and an adenoidal voice thinks it should be.
It now weighs a smidge under 1100kg and has a smidge over 300bhp. I have other cars that would show it a clean pair of heels, but it's fast enough to be involving and brings a smile every time I take it out. It cost me well under 6-figures to build, including the car which was bought at a time when you could get an MoT'd, driving, aircooled 911 for less than an engine these days.
[quote=CarreraLightweightRacing]Good to see you back posting on PH Steve
If I was to go crazy with another Pork flavoured project I'd be taking a 997.1C2S, giving it the Sport Classic look, removing all BS and 200kg, then fit a 4.0l engine, that should make quite an interesting proposition.
I've gone this route, minus the 4.0 engine (unless mine goes pop)
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If I was to go crazy with another Pork flavoured project I'd be taking a 997.1C2S, giving it the Sport Classic look, removing all BS and 200kg, then fit a 4.0l engine, that should make quite an interesting proposition.
I've gone this route, minus the 4.0 engine (unless mine goes pop)
Cunno said:
Thanks Richard
Good to see you have weighed car now and confirmed the deductions, and that is a lite 996.
Has anyone got a real on the road weight for a 997 GT3 comfort please. Mines a real poker 1495 kg and that’s with a Kline exhaust and manifolds Recaro buckets + half cage and 3/4 tank of fuel no driver.
Since then done liteblox battery, removed air bags (all) rear and side window Perspex, removed radio, sat nav, amp, speakers and added OZ alloys. So another 59 kg saving that’s about 1430 kg ( TBC) only 35kg heavier than Porsche claim WTF!
Mines a comfort-spec, with A/C, Nav etc.Good to see you have weighed car now and confirmed the deductions, and that is a lite 996.
Has anyone got a real on the road weight for a 997 GT3 comfort please. Mines a real poker 1495 kg and that’s with a Kline exhaust and manifolds Recaro buckets + half cage and 3/4 tank of fuel no driver.
Since then done liteblox battery, removed air bags (all) rear and side window Perspex, removed radio, sat nav, amp, speakers and added OZ alloys. So another 59 kg saving that’s about 1430 kg ( TBC) only 35kg heavier than Porsche claim WTF!
Last time I had it corner-weighted, the figures came out as follows:
Total weight: 1545.5Kg with 76Kg driver, and 1/2 tank of fuel. Porky by name....
Kettmark said:
CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Good to see you back posting on PH Steve
If I was to go crazy with another Pork flavoured project I'd be taking a 997.1C2S, giving it the Sport Classic look, removing all BS and 200kg, then fit a 4.0l engine, that should make quite an interesting proposition.
I've gone this route, minus the 4.0 engine (unless mine goes pop)
I like the idea of a 4.0 engine. Addresses the ordinary (In context of the rest of the car) part of the Sport Classic....the drivetrain. If I was to go crazy with another Pork flavoured project I'd be taking a 997.1C2S, giving it the Sport Classic look, removing all BS and 200kg, then fit a 4.0l engine, that should make quite an interesting proposition.
I've gone this route, minus the 4.0 engine (unless mine goes pop)
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