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Looking for advice, what to pay for the above.
Possibly 2 owners form new, always garaged, 54000 miles in Red
Not had a proper look as yet, not sure on service history yet but I think it wes looked after every year (yet to see if thats correct)
Its been sorn since around May 2016.
Been offered it but not sure what its worth. the guy don't know what its worth either?
What do you all think, ?
Will get it trailered away due to being sat for a while.
Thanks.
Possibly 2 owners form new, always garaged, 54000 miles in Red
Not had a proper look as yet, not sure on service history yet but I think it wes looked after every year (yet to see if thats correct)
Its been sorn since around May 2016.
Been offered it but not sure what its worth. the guy don't know what its worth either?
What do you all think, ?
Will get it trailered away due to being sat for a while.
Thanks.
As I'm sure you know, all 944s have gone up in value a fair bit over the last few years, finally moving away from their bottomed out depreciation curve. The S2 is the second most desirable/valuable after the Turbos.
Pricing an S2 is pretty tricky because it will depend on why the owner is selling - are they moving on a project/hobby car to a new owner or looking to cash in on an investment? Depending on their mindset, the value of the car is very different!
On the plus sides, your car sounds as though it hasn't been abused, is very low mileage, and low owners, all of which are desirable.
On the downsides, you'll be wanting to do a full (expensive) service including all the belts, waterpump, and brakes given the 5 years off the road and any other niggles you get from a 31 year old car. That's without seeing any pictures of the paintwork or condition of the sills (which can rust horribly).
All that in mind, you're looking at around £5/6k if it needs extensive work doing to it, £8/9k if it just needs recommissioning, and £10-15k once it's on the road in top condition. Do bare in mind that it's very difficult to place an exact value on something without knowing more details and also in a fast moving and variable marketplace.
Btw, definitely go for it
Can't beat those pop up lights!
Pricing an S2 is pretty tricky because it will depend on why the owner is selling - are they moving on a project/hobby car to a new owner or looking to cash in on an investment? Depending on their mindset, the value of the car is very different!
On the plus sides, your car sounds as though it hasn't been abused, is very low mileage, and low owners, all of which are desirable.
On the downsides, you'll be wanting to do a full (expensive) service including all the belts, waterpump, and brakes given the 5 years off the road and any other niggles you get from a 31 year old car. That's without seeing any pictures of the paintwork or condition of the sills (which can rust horribly).
All that in mind, you're looking at around £5/6k if it needs extensive work doing to it, £8/9k if it just needs recommissioning, and £10-15k once it's on the road in top condition. Do bare in mind that it's very difficult to place an exact value on something without knowing more details and also in a fast moving and variable marketplace.
Btw, definitely go for it
Can't beat those pop up lights!Thanks for that, details are a little unknown at the moment.
I have known the of the car for a 10 years or so, its just been put to ons side as other cars were purchased.
Elderly couple just did not want to part with it, now its just in the way lol..
Yes will need all belts and a good going over, body work is in good order the last time a saw it, but need to check the cills.
I have known the of the car for a 10 years or so, its just been put to ons side as other cars were purchased.
Elderly couple just did not want to part with it, now its just in the way lol..
Yes will need all belts and a good going over, body work is in good order the last time a saw it, but need to check the cills.
AMG V12 said:
As I'm sure you know, all 944s have gone up in value a fair bit over the last few years, finally moving away from their bottomed out depreciation curve. The S2 is the second most desirable/valuable after the Turbos.
Pricing an S2 is pretty tricky because it will depend on why the owner is selling - are they moving on a project/hobby car to a new owner or looking to cash in on an investment? Depending on their mindset, the value of the car is very different!
On the plus sides, your car sounds as though it hasn't been abused, is very low mileage, and low owners, all of which are desirable.
On the downsides, you'll be wanting to do a full (expensive) service including all the belts, waterpump, and brakes given the 5 years off the road and any other niggles you get from a 31 year old car. That's without seeing any pictures of the paintwork or condition of the sills (which can rust horribly).
All that in mind, you're looking at around £5/6k if it needs extensive work doing to it, £8/9k if it just needs recommissioning, and £10-15k once it's on the road in top condition. Do bare in mind that it's very difficult to place an exact value on something without knowing more details and also in a fast moving and variable marketplace.
Btw, definitely go for it Can't beat those pop up lights!
Pricing an S2 is pretty tricky because it will depend on why the owner is selling - are they moving on a project/hobby car to a new owner or looking to cash in on an investment? Depending on their mindset, the value of the car is very different!
On the plus sides, your car sounds as though it hasn't been abused, is very low mileage, and low owners, all of which are desirable.
On the downsides, you'll be wanting to do a full (expensive) service including all the belts, waterpump, and brakes given the 5 years off the road and any other niggles you get from a 31 year old car. That's without seeing any pictures of the paintwork or condition of the sills (which can rust horribly).
All that in mind, you're looking at around £5/6k if it needs extensive work doing to it, £8/9k if it just needs recommissioning, and £10-15k once it's on the road in top condition. Do bare in mind that it's very difficult to place an exact value on something without knowing more details and also in a fast moving and variable marketplace.
Btw, definitely go for it
Can't beat those pop up lights!My first Porsche was a champaign metallic 944S2 (G reg, 1989) bought in 1995. Put 40,000 miles on it in 4 years taking it to 70,000 and suffered exactly £1,000 in depreciation when I traded it for a 968CS. Now that's a real "one that got away"! Sold it for £13k to a mate on 57,000 miles in, I think, 2005 as I wasn't using it 'cos by then I'd had my first 911 for around 2 years, and didn't have the garage room. Doh!
S2 was a great all rounder. 30mpg, cheap to service and insure and plenty of luggage/golf club room in the back. Oh, and those headlights........
Get it bought and enjoy.
S2 was a great all rounder. 30mpg, cheap to service and insure and plenty of luggage/golf club room in the back. Oh, and those headlights........
Get it bought and enjoy.
GTSjohn said:
My first Porsche was a champaign metallic 944S2 (G reg, 1989) bought in 1995. Put 40,000 miles on it in 4 years taking it to 70,000 and suffered exactly £1,000 in depreciation when I traded it for a 968CS. Now that's a real "one that got away"! Sold it for £13k to a mate on 57,000 miles in, I think, 2005 as I wasn't using it 'cos by then I'd had my first 911 for around 2 years, and didn't have the garage room. Doh!
S2 was a great all rounder. 30mpg, cheap to service and insure and plenty of luggage/golf club room in the back. Oh, and those headlights........
Get it bought and enjoy.
Wow, thats not bad going.S2 was a great all rounder. 30mpg, cheap to service and insure and plenty of luggage/golf club room in the back. Oh, and those headlights........
Get it bought and enjoy.
Rust and cam chain are the two main issues. The cam cover needs to come off to check the condition of the chain and the sprockets which are part of the camshafts.
Rust is prevalent: if you can see ANY hint of corrosion then the car will need a lot of expensive welding. 'Surface rust' is something that vendors and buyers try to kid each other and themselves about. If you can see it then the sills have gone and it is likely that the inner sills and the floors, A-pillar base and area where the torsion tube carrier mounts are all corroded too.
Rust is prevalent: if you can see ANY hint of corrosion then the car will need a lot of expensive welding. 'Surface rust' is something that vendors and buyers try to kid each other and themselves about. If you can see it then the sills have gone and it is likely that the inner sills and the floors, A-pillar base and area where the torsion tube carrier mounts are all corroded too.
Edited by 944 Man on Sunday 14th February 16:42
944 Man said:
Rust and cam chain are the two main issues. The cam cover needs to come off to check the condition of the chain and the sprockets which are part of the camshafts.
Rust is prevalent: if you can see ANY hint of corrosion then the car will need a lot of expensive welding. 'Surface rust' is something that vendors and buyers try to kid each other and themselves about. If you can see it then the sills have gone and it is likely that the inner sills and the floors, A pillar lase and area where the torsion tube carrier mounts are all corroded too.
Going to arrange a visit, and pick it over then will know whats what. Rust is prevalent: if you can see ANY hint of corrosion then the car will need a lot of expensive welding. 'Surface rust' is something that vendors and buyers try to kid each other and themselves about. If you can see it then the sills have gone and it is likely that the inner sills and the floors, A pillar lase and area where the torsion tube carrier mounts are all corroded too.
Thanks for all the comments so far.
john_1983 said:
I bought my 1991 S2 in July for 10k. 143k miles on it but absolutely mint, no rust - the previous owner had been using the local main dealer.
I've no doubt I paid top money but the car is immaculate with nothing needed
Everyone would like this and many cars are sold suggesting that they are in this condition. I have been involved with 944s for long enough that this used to be the case, but it really isn't any longer and it hasn't been for a long time. I've no doubt I paid top money but the car is immaculate with nothing needed
Go looking for what I have described and you will find it in virtually every FrontRunner that you look at.
Agreed, it's going to need considerable work. They just do. Especially after sitting around not getting used. Don't write it off of it needs some body work though. As you won't find one that doesn't unless it's been restored and then you're into big numbers.
Go look at it with the aim of it being worth 15k in top condition. But don't underestimate the cost of getting it there.
You could also do what I've done and just enjoy an imperfect Car at a fraction of the price of a garage queen. These cars don't have to be immaculate to be enjoyed. Quite the opposite is often the case.
Go look at it with the aim of it being worth 15k in top condition. But don't underestimate the cost of getting it there.
You could also do what I've done and just enjoy an imperfect Car at a fraction of the price of a garage queen. These cars don't have to be immaculate to be enjoyed. Quite the opposite is often the case.
johnoz said:
Looking for advice, what to pay for the above.
Possibly 2 owners form new, always garaged, 54000 miles in Red
Not had a proper look as yet, not sure on service history yet but I think it wes looked after every year (yet to see if thats correct)
Its been sorn since around May 2016.
Been offered it but not sure what its worth. the guy don't know what its worth either?
What do you all think, ?
Will get it trailered away due to being sat for a while.
Thanks.
Looks like this ain't going to happen now, the old boy might do it up and have some fun with it.Possibly 2 owners form new, always garaged, 54000 miles in Red
Not had a proper look as yet, not sure on service history yet but I think it wes looked after every year (yet to see if thats correct)
Its been sorn since around May 2016.
Been offered it but not sure what its worth. the guy don't know what its worth either?
What do you all think, ?
Will get it trailered away due to being sat for a while.
Thanks.
Funny he had no interest in it, but now the thought of it going has sparked an interest again.
Having now seen it, it was in very good condition, shame, let's see what will happen as time goes on.
944 Cabrios have come into my radar of late, looked at one about 7 year ago but decided the rear seat was no use to a 9 year old but he's 15 now and rarely comes out with us!
Checked a few ebay offerings out on "MoT history" and rust does seem a common problem.
ps don't tell the TVR guys I've been here - you ain't seen me right!
Checked a few ebay offerings out on "MoT history" and rust does seem a common problem.
ps don't tell the TVR guys I've been here - you ain't seen me right!
Hi guys, new on here so just saying hello and adding to the thread on 944 pricing.My first car was a 2.5 version 87,88, long time ago in 1993 , dropped a cam belt and bent 14 valves, new belt at that. Had a 911sc with cable clutch, bad on leg muscle so had to go, then a Boxter, great fun and should Never have sold It.
So finally found a 1989 944 2.7 eight valve 154k on clock , no welding. In Black with white upholstery. Less than 1k since having 8k engine out , suspension rebuild . All belts pulleys seals gadgets done, fully documented from new.
The old boy even fitted set of 911 turbo wheels and tyres on it. I Fitted full Dansk stainless system last week and what a difference that made well worth the 500 quid.
Paid 9k for the car and well worth it. Paul
So finally found a 1989 944 2.7 eight valve 154k on clock , no welding. In Black with white upholstery. Less than 1k since having 8k engine out , suspension rebuild . All belts pulleys seals gadgets done, fully documented from new.
The old boy even fitted set of 911 turbo wheels and tyres on it. I Fitted full Dansk stainless system last week and what a difference that made well worth the 500 quid.
Paid 9k for the car and well worth it. Paul
Trapshot said:
Hi guys, new on here so just saying hello and adding to the thread on 944 pricing.My first car was a 2.5 version 87,88, long time ago in 1993 , dropped a cam belt and bent 14 valves, new belt at that. Had a 911sc with cable clutch, bad on leg muscle so had to go, then a Boxter, great fun and should Never have sold It.
So finally found a 1989 944 2.7 eight valve 154k on clock , no welding. In Black with white upholstery. Less than 1k since having 8k engine out , suspension rebuild . All belts pulleys seals gadgets done, fully documented from new.
The old boy even fitted set of 911 turbo wheels and tyres on it. I Fitted full Dansk stainless system last week and what a difference that made well worth the 500 quid.
Paid 9k for the car and well worth it. Paul
Pics or it didn't happen! So finally found a 1989 944 2.7 eight valve 154k on clock , no welding. In Black with white upholstery. Less than 1k since having 8k engine out , suspension rebuild . All belts pulleys seals gadgets done, fully documented from new.
The old boy even fitted set of 911 turbo wheels and tyres on it. I Fitted full Dansk stainless system last week and what a difference that made well worth the 500 quid.
Paid 9k for the car and well worth it. Paul
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