Resto/Mod Backdating costs...

[Cheib]

julian987R said:

This looks a lovely restomod

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12881888

I can’t say that does anything for me…what looks like a chrome finish on the Fuchs, they’ve put what looks like an imitation 356 steering wheel in it and the seats don’t look very good quality. Most importantly the owner has felt the need to put electric power steering on probably because to imitate the Singer they’ve put bigger wheels and tyres on it….meaning the steering is too heavy at low speeds. That will have sacrificed steering feel which is the wrong answer if you want to drive these cars.

In an any Porsche less is more. There are numerous threads on here where people discuss the need to reduce unstrung weight…should they tick the PCCB box or get some lightweight aftermarket wheels. With a lot of restomods this mantra seems to go out of the window…it is beyond me. The fundamental balance of the car is being ruined.

[LeakUpTest]

Cheib said:

I can’t say that does anything for me…what looks like a chrome finish on the Fuchs, they’ve put what looks like an imitation 356 steering wheel in it and the seats don’t look very good quality. Most importantly the owner has felt the need to put electric power steering on probably because to imitate the Singer they’ve put bigger wheels and tyres on it….meaning the steering is too heavy at low speeds. That will have sacrificed steering feel which is the wrong answer if you want to drive these cars.

In an any Porsche less is more. There are numerous threads on here where people discuss the need to reduce unstrung weight…should they tick the PCCB box or get some lightweight aftermarket wheels. With a lot of restomods this mantra seems to go out of the window…it is beyond me. The fundamental balance of the car is being ruined.

Totally agree. If there's one thing I would change it would be the heavy steering on mine at low speeds. But I know the sacrifice. That car isn't worth anywhere near that when you take a closer look. But it would have cost almost that too build. There's little money to be made if any in these restomods today.

[Wilmslowboy]

julian987R said:

This looks a lovely restomod

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12881888

That looks absolutely great - but £150k

These things are like an arms race, I’m already in at £50k (my existing car), but contemplating upgrading.

[LeakUpTest]

Wilmslowboy said:

That looks absolutely great - but £150k

These things are like an arms race, I’m already in at £50k (my existing car), but contemplating upgrading.

What are you considering?

[Wilmslowboy]

LeakUpTest said:

What are you considering?

Something more usable…

Everything from a 930 (probably ruled out now), 993, 997 GT3, to potentially just move further along the restomod route.

My car (‘76 911) is bloody great - good ride, comfortable interior, a joy to drive, delightful engine, no cage etc etc

But it’s not quite ‘usable’ enough for the wife and I to consider it for trips together at weekends.

[BertBert]

My restored 69t with e motor cost 70k. It's fab, but the motor was wheezy. Got a 2.4s spec motor complete with mfi to swap in for 9k, sold old motor for 4k cost 3k to put on and get sorted (incl front arb).

So 78k all in. New motor made 195bhp on rr. Even allowing for rr ambitiousness, that's plenty fast enough!

[ferrariboi]

The Spanish £200,000 build 1970 restomod failed to sell on Collecting Cars this evening. High bid was £63k.

I guess that answers the OP’s original question.

[Wilmslowboy]

ferrariboi said:

The Spanish £200,000 build 1970 restomod failed to sell on Collecting Cars this evening. High bid was £63k.

I guess that answers the OP’s original question.

I'm shocked it got bid to that amount.

[Cheib]

Wilmslowboy said:

ferrariboi said:

The Spanish £200,000 build 1970 restomod failed to sell on Collecting Cars this evening. High bid was £63k.

I guess that answers the OP’s original question.

I'm shocked it got bid to that amount.

+1

That was a good price for it. So bad it was only worth what the parts were worth.

[julian987R]

Wilmslowboy said:

ferrariboi said:

The Spanish £200,000 build 1970 restomod failed to sell on Collecting Cars this evening. High bid was £63k.

I guess that answers the OP’s original question.

I'm shocked it got bid to that amount.

me too! amazed it got higher than £30K to be honest.

[BertBert]

But such a lovely unique car with 4 tailpipes for 6 cylinders... Inspired

That guy Graham Ridgway seemed at least to get the engine spec nailed

[GT3Manthey]

ferrariboi said:

The Spanish £200,000 build 1970 restomod failed to sell on Collecting Cars this evening. High bid was £63k.

I guess that answers the OP’s original question.

Interesting many Tks .

Certainly food for thought

[Dick Dastardly]

julian987R said:

This looks a lovely restomod

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12881888

I’m pretty sure that’s the car I looked at in HR Owen Cheltenham about 3 years ago. It appeared to be a quality job. It was £110k then so quite a good investment if it goes for the new asking price.

[GT3Manthey]

julian987R said:

me too! amazed it got higher than £30K to be honest.

Was that the targa resto ?

[julian987R]

GT3Manthey said:

julian987R said:

me too! amazed it got higher than £30K to be honest.

Was that the targa resto ?

Yep that was the one.
For what i suspect they wanted for it, considering the 200K build, at that level of money I would prefer a beauty like
https://jzmporsche.com/cars/porsche-911-24e-p0164/

...now showing as reserved but I think was around £150/160K. To me thats a far better proposition than that odd CC Targa restomod.

[squirdan]

I had 2 hot rods. Both were based on 72/73 cars and had correct mfi engines. On a good day; mega. To look at - amazing. For a few laps of a track, or a short B road blast, a lot of fun. But…

Not really that good as cars. You have to be committed and maybe I just wasn’t. Other half not keen. Crashing used to weigh on my mind; tiny A pillars, no airbag etc.
Leaks. Poor ventilation. Noisy. Etc etc

I do wish I still had one but got to be honest for 95pc of fun trips my Cayman R is just so much more usable.. and still makes a good noise and is delicate and fun to drive.

The bills on the above 2 were eye watering

Instagram gold, but unless you’ve got a v fat budget, a warm dry garage and at least 3 other cars I wouldn’t bother

[julian987R]

This is good timing to be released...

Guntherwerks 993: Porsche 911 Restomod - Road Review | Catchpole on Carfection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7US81iYwU7I

maybe this is the way to go for for the OP.

[Slippydiff]

julian987R said:

This is good timing to be released...

Guntherwerks 993: Porsche 911 Restomod - Road Review | Catchpole on Carfection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7US81iYwU7I

maybe this is the way to go for for the OP.

Not watched it yet, but spotted it a couple of hours ago and it's on my list of jobs to do this evening, but that aside, I presume you're aware how much they cost Julian ???

As far as I know, they're already all sold, but they'll build you a rag top version if your pockets are deep enough.

I think the GW mechanicals are awesome, but the bodywork whilst superb quality, is an epic fail aesthetically.

Now if you were to fit those mechanicals into this :



this :



or this :



or indeed this :



I'd be at the front of the queue.

[GT3Manthey]

squirdan said:

I had 2 hot rods. Both were based on 72/73 cars and had correct mfi engines. On a good day; mega. To look at - amazing. For a few laps of a track, or a short B road blast, a lot of fun. But…

Not really that good as cars. You have to be committed and maybe I just wasn’t. Other half not keen. Crashing used to weigh on my mind; tiny A pillars, no airbag etc.
Leaks. Poor ventilation. Noisy. Etc etc

I do wish I still had one but got to be honest for 95pc of fun trips my Cayman R is just so much more usable.. and still makes a good noise and is delicate and fun to drive.

The bills on the above 2 were eye watering

Instagram gold, but unless you’ve got a v fat budget, a warm dry garage and at least 3 other cars I wouldn’t bother

I’ve pretty much come to this conclusion.

Weighing up the costs either to build or maintain one already built doesn’t make viable sense for intended use .

Cayman R might well be better proposition

Tks for all the replies

[Slippydiff]

GT3Manthey said:

squirdan said:

I had 2 hot rods. Both were based on 72/73 cars and had correct mfi engines. On a good day; mega. To look at - amazing. For a few laps of a track, or a short B road blast, a lot of fun. But…

Not really that good as cars. You have to be committed and maybe I just wasn’t. Other half not keen. Crashing used to weigh on my mind; tiny A pillars, no airbag etc.
Leaks. Poor ventilation. Noisy. Etc etc

I do wish I still had one but got to be honest for 95pc of fun trips my Cayman R is just so much more usable.. and still makes a good noise and is delicate and fun to drive.

The bills on the above 2 were eye watering

Instagram gold, but unless you’ve got a v fat budget, a warm dry garage and at least 3 other cars I wouldn’t bother

I’ve pretty much come to this conclusion.

Weighing up the costs either to build or maintain one already built doesn’t make viable sense for intended use .

Cayman R might well be better proposition

Tks for all the replies

In my experience the 996 GT3, is a happy halfway house between the old school aircooled stuff and the more modern W/C GT cars : Compact, tactile, engaging and visceral, but not hard work like the older stuff, but more fun to drive at sane speeds on the road compared with the newer stuff.