KHAN CARS @ BRADFORD
Discussion
Anybody any experience of these guys - I know they are part of Khan Designs who do the modified Range Rovers et al much beloved by footballers - but they seem to be buying up as many LHD supercars as they can find and selling them in the UK.
Are there any real disadvantages to LHD in the UK? (Apart from the obvious car park machine issue)?
The cars seem to be reasonably priced and if they are UK registered/MOT'd etc then may be worth a look. Obviously I would get a PPI before committing....
Any comments would be appreciated.
Are there any real disadvantages to LHD in the UK? (Apart from the obvious car park machine issue)?
The cars seem to be reasonably priced and if they are UK registered/MOT'd etc then may be worth a look. Obviously I would get a PPI before committing....
Any comments would be appreciated.
bigbadandy76 said:
Anybody any experience of these guys - I know they are part of Khan Designs who do the modified Range Rovers et al much beloved by footballers - but they seem to be buying up as many LHD supercars as they can find and selling them in the UK.
Are there any real disadvantages to LHD in the UK? (Apart from the obvious car park machine issue)?
The cars seem to be reasonably priced and if they are UK registered/MOT'd etc then may be worth a look. Obviously I would get a PPI before committing....
Any comments would be appreciated.
We've had an influx of clients who are after LHD's in the UK.Are there any real disadvantages to LHD in the UK? (Apart from the obvious car park machine issue)?
The cars seem to be reasonably priced and if they are UK registered/MOT'd etc then may be worth a look. Obviously I would get a PPI before committing....
Any comments would be appreciated.
I would advise bringing one over yourself. It'll be a lot cheaper than buying from one already in the UK.
There is the obvious car park machine issue, but let's not forget the obvious "difficulty in seeing what's coming the other way issue". This could be a problem when trying to overtake and you find yourself sat, in what is essentially, the passenger seat!
F430's are quite wide, you'll probably have to place at least half of the car on the opposite side of the road, in to the path of oncoming traffic, before you can get a full picture of exactly what's coming the other way - Not for me thank you.
I don't doubt that demand for LHD cars in this country has increased..... Although I suspect this is largely because our country is now bursting at the seems with people from other parts of the world, who want a familiar LHD car for when they're here in the UK - Rather than UK customers suddenly deciding that they prefer the steering wheel on the wrong side!
I'm also in agreement with others on the history being harder to piece together but regardless of that, I just wouldn't really want to spend what is still a considerable amount of money, on a left hand drive Ferrari - Unless of course you plan to spend an awful lot of time driving in Europe.
F430's are quite wide, you'll probably have to place at least half of the car on the opposite side of the road, in to the path of oncoming traffic, before you can get a full picture of exactly what's coming the other way - Not for me thank you.
I don't doubt that demand for LHD cars in this country has increased..... Although I suspect this is largely because our country is now bursting at the seems with people from other parts of the world, who want a familiar LHD car for when they're here in the UK - Rather than UK customers suddenly deciding that they prefer the steering wheel on the wrong side!
I'm also in agreement with others on the history being harder to piece together but regardless of that, I just wouldn't really want to spend what is still a considerable amount of money, on a left hand drive Ferrari - Unless of course you plan to spend an awful lot of time driving in Europe.
allister said:
There is the obvious car park machine issue, but let's not forget the obvious "difficulty in seeing what's coming the other way issue". This could be a problem when trying to overtake and you find yourself sat, in what is essentially, the passenger seat!
F430's are quite wide, you'll probably have to place at least half of the car on the opposite side of the road, in to the path of oncoming traffic, before you can get a full picture of exactly what's coming the other way - Not for me thank you.
I don't doubt that demand for LHD cars in this country has increased..... Although I suspect this is largely because our country is now bursting at the seems with people from other parts of the world, who want a familiar LHD car for when they're here in the UK - Rather than UK customers suddenly deciding that they prefer the steering wheel on the wrong side!
I'm also in agreement with others on the history being harder to piece together but regardless of that, I just wouldn't really want to spend what is still a considerable amount of money, on a left hand drive Ferrari - Unless of course you plan to spend an awful lot of time driving in Europe.
You're entitled to your opinion of course.F430's are quite wide, you'll probably have to place at least half of the car on the opposite side of the road, in to the path of oncoming traffic, before you can get a full picture of exactly what's coming the other way - Not for me thank you.
I don't doubt that demand for LHD cars in this country has increased..... Although I suspect this is largely because our country is now bursting at the seems with people from other parts of the world, who want a familiar LHD car for when they're here in the UK - Rather than UK customers suddenly deciding that they prefer the steering wheel on the wrong side!
I'm also in agreement with others on the history being harder to piece together but regardless of that, I just wouldn't really want to spend what is still a considerable amount of money, on a left hand drive Ferrari - Unless of course you plan to spend an awful lot of time driving in Europe.
Both my previous Ferraris have been LHD and I have owned and driven many LHD cars here (and RHD abroad!!). Driving them, if you're sensible, is not an issue. Especially a powerful LHD car. You just simply drop back a bit, which is most probably a better way to drive anyway.
History and car parks of course are valid points. For driving the only time I find it a problem is approaching a big roundabout where the access road splays left so your rear three quarter view over your shoulder becomes obscured. Simple solution though, just don't go so far forward to the edge of the roundabout by say a couple of car lengths and you won't have veered left. You can see clearly out of the RH window and merge in when safe easily.
Going back to the poster quoted above's point on positioning, I think for general driving on our narrow roads you can actually position the car far more accurately. LHD per se shouldn't put you off.
Never used Khan so no comment there.
YMMV of course.
_Superleggera_ said:
We've had an influx of clients who are after LHD's in the UK.
I would advise bringing one over yourself. It'll be a lot cheaper than buying from one already in the UK.
The influx of people looking for LHD cars in the UK is mainly because there are no longer any bargain RHD 2 seater cars for sale at the moment. I would advise bringing one over yourself. It'll be a lot cheaper than buying from one already in the UK.
Even the comparatively unloved 348 is a £50K~£70K car in RHD right now, and are there are not that many on the market (now we're at the end of the Ferrari driving season there are three or four for sale, but for most of the year, the number of RHD 348's for sale was basically one [and another one that keeps being advertised even though the owner has no intention of selling it] ).
These are cars that 5 years ago were selling for £18K~£22K, and buyers were spoilt for choice. Today, RHD 348's are hard to find!
As for Khan cars, they are one of two or three dealerships that suddenly started to import LHD 348's when the Ferrari market took off properly @ 2 years ago, hoping to cash in by buying LHD cars cheap from the Continent, and then selling them at a premium in the UK.
They've had their LHD 348's up for sale for the best part of a year now and they not selling, even though they are priced @ 1/2 to 2/3rds the price of a RHD car.
Whilst LHD can be a bargain way to get into Ferrari ownership in the UK, it should also be noted that they can be hard to sell on, and if the Ferrari market bubble should burst any time soon (as some are predicting), there will be an awful lot of LHD's for sale in the UK market!
allister said:
There is the obvious car park machine issue, but let's not forget the obvious "difficulty in seeing what's coming the other way issue". This could be a problem when trying to overtake and you find yourself sat, in what is essentially, the passenger seat!
F430's are quite wide, you'll probably have to place at least half of the car on the opposite side of the road, in to the path of oncoming traffic, before you can get a full picture of exactly what's coming the other way - Not for me thank you.
I don't doubt that demand for LHD cars in this country has increased..... Although I suspect this is largely because our country is now bursting at the seems with people from other parts of the world, who want a familiar LHD car for when they're here in the UK - Rather than UK customers suddenly deciding that they prefer the steering wheel on the wrong side!
I'm also in agreement with others on the history being harder to piece together but regardless of that, I just wouldn't really want to spend what is still a considerable amount of money, on a left hand drive Ferrari - Unless of course you plan to spend an awful lot of time driving in Europe.
Spot on!...although the plus side of people buying cheaper LHD cars, is that it will inevitably put pressure on the ridiculously high prices of RHD exotic cars.F430's are quite wide, you'll probably have to place at least half of the car on the opposite side of the road, in to the path of oncoming traffic, before you can get a full picture of exactly what's coming the other way - Not for me thank you.
I don't doubt that demand for LHD cars in this country has increased..... Although I suspect this is largely because our country is now bursting at the seems with people from other parts of the world, who want a familiar LHD car for when they're here in the UK - Rather than UK customers suddenly deciding that they prefer the steering wheel on the wrong side!
I'm also in agreement with others on the history being harder to piece together but regardless of that, I just wouldn't really want to spend what is still a considerable amount of money, on a left hand drive Ferrari - Unless of course you plan to spend an awful lot of time driving in Europe.
4rephill said:
The influx of people looking for LHD cars in the UK is mainly because there are no longer any bargain RHD 2 seater cars for sale at the moment.
Even the comparatively unloved 348 is a £50K~£70K car in RHD right now, and are there are not that many on the market (now we're at the end of the Ferrari driving season there are three or four for sale, but for most of the year, the number of RHD 348's for sale was basically one [and another one that keeps being advertised even though the owner has no intention of selling it] ).
These are cars that 5 years ago were selling for £18K~£22K, and buyers were spoilt for choice. Today, RHD 348's are hard to find!
As for Khan cars, they are one of two or three dealerships that suddenly started to import LHD 348's when the Ferrari market took off properly @ 2 years ago, hoping to cash in by buying LHD cars cheap from the Continent, and then selling them at a premium in the UK.
They've had their LHD 348's up for sale for the best part of a year now and they not selling, even though they are priced @ 1/2 to 2/3rds the price of a RHD car.
Whilst LHD can be a bargain way to get into Ferrari ownership in the UK, it should also be noted that they can be hard to sell on, and if the Ferrari market bubble should burst any time soon (as some are predicting), there will be an awful lot of LHD's for sale in the UK market!
The Ferrari market is going crazy and some of the prices are just plain stupid. Even in its day, the 348 was crap - the NSX was miles better, and even 10 years ago, they couldn't give the 348s away. Now all of a sudden, the 348 has become a £50k car....nuts!!Even the comparatively unloved 348 is a £50K~£70K car in RHD right now, and are there are not that many on the market (now we're at the end of the Ferrari driving season there are three or four for sale, but for most of the year, the number of RHD 348's for sale was basically one [and another one that keeps being advertised even though the owner has no intention of selling it] ).
These are cars that 5 years ago were selling for £18K~£22K, and buyers were spoilt for choice. Today, RHD 348's are hard to find!
As for Khan cars, they are one of two or three dealerships that suddenly started to import LHD 348's when the Ferrari market took off properly @ 2 years ago, hoping to cash in by buying LHD cars cheap from the Continent, and then selling them at a premium in the UK.
They've had their LHD 348's up for sale for the best part of a year now and they not selling, even though they are priced @ 1/2 to 2/3rds the price of a RHD car.
Whilst LHD can be a bargain way to get into Ferrari ownership in the UK, it should also be noted that they can be hard to sell on, and if the Ferrari market bubble should burst any time soon (as some are predicting), there will be an awful lot of LHD's for sale in the UK market!
TP321 said:
Spot on!...although the plus side of people buying cheaper LHD cars, is that it will inevitably put pressure on the ridiculously high prices of RHD exotic cars.
Only if RHD production numbers were higher than LHD. 248 RHD575s were built vs. 501 LHD...that's why an LHD car is worth £80k and RHD £120k.rubystone said:
Only if RHD production numbers were higher than LHD. 248 RHD575s were built vs. 501 LHD...that's why an LHD car is worth £80k and RHD £120k.
Kind of ignoring demand there... The population of LHD countries in the richer EU-15 is about 5x the population of the RHD countries. Look at the EU as a whole and it rises to about 6x the population.rubystone said:
The two biggest issues are being able to trace the history and thinking that any non limited series car in lhd will appreciate in value in the UK in line with its RHD brethren.
I've not followed all other non-limited LHD Ferrari prices, but my LHD 550 has gone up an identical % to the RHD's available when I bought a couple of years ago. The bottom line is that these cars are now being bought purely for weekend fun now. LHD or RHD makes no difference to that 'fun'.
The 2 reasons trotted out for not buying LHD are problems with overtaking, car parks and drive thru fast food. Well for me overtaking is for fun and I treat it as a challenge - in a LHD car that challenge is very slightly greater so, arguably, more fun!
As for the problem with drive-thrus'? Simples...don't go to drive-thrus, you shouldn't be there anyway! As for car parks..OK if you want to pay 40% more for a car to have an easy life at a car park then sobeit.
The reason I have bought LHD over the years is that they cost less money for the same thing (and in the case of pre-996 Porsche are a better drive.) Without exception the % price rises have been similar (in fact with my 993RS it was greater) to RHD.
The 2 reasons trotted out for not buying LHD are problems with overtaking, car parks and drive thru fast food. Well for me overtaking is for fun and I treat it as a challenge - in a LHD car that challenge is very slightly greater so, arguably, more fun!
As for the problem with drive-thrus'? Simples...don't go to drive-thrus, you shouldn't be there anyway! As for car parks..OK if you want to pay 40% more for a car to have an easy life at a car park then sobeit.
The reason I have bought LHD over the years is that they cost less money for the same thing (and in the case of pre-996 Porsche are a better drive.) Without exception the % price rises have been similar (in fact with my 993RS it was greater) to RHD.
roygarth said:
The 2 reasons trotted out for not buying LHD are problems with overtaking, car parks and drive thru fast food. Well for me overtaking is for fun and I treat it as a challenge - in a LHD car that challenge is very slightly greater so, arguably, more fun!
I have absolutely no problem with speed as long as it comes with respect and is used when appropriate but if you feel overtaking is a challenge and relish the greater risk, you should probably have your license taken away. Head-on collisions tend to leave innocent people dead. I'm no killjoy. We have a Ferrari and a Porsche and it's great to stretch their legs a bit so I hope what you meant to say was lost in the print a little.Gassing Station | Ferrari V8 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff