Cars not selling?

Cars not selling?

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Behemoth

2,105 posts

131 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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dang2407 said:
cars with internal combustion engines will be taxed off the road. Noone will want them and their prices will plummet.
Euroboxes, yes. There will always be space & facilities for historics and the demand will be there for a long long time to come.

paul71a

151 posts

233 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Nano2nd said:
Which dealer?
Graypaul Birmingham..... and they've sold it already!

dang2407

496 posts

108 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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Behemoth said:
dang2407 said:
cars with internal combustion engines will be taxed off the road. Noone will want them and their prices will plummet.
Euroboxes, yes. There will always be space & facilities for historics and the demand will be there for a long long time to come.
Even if Road Tax is £3500 a year and petrol is £4 a litre? I dont think these estimates are an exaggeration. Also, we'll have to drive with ECUs controlling our speed and accelaration from roadside transponders of our so-called Smart Motorways. The future will be no fun at all. I hope I am wrong :-)

I agree that the very rich will afford it and the McLaren F1s, Carrera GTs, Muiras etc will survive, but the low to mid-level supercars will not.

In addition, people's attitude will change and driving the "polluting" internal combustion engine will become socially unacceptable. I know for a fact that right now kids in school and university are being bombarded with ideas about clean and renewable energy, so that they will grow up with mindsets against the car as we know it today.

Kyodo

730 posts

124 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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dang2407 said:
Even if Road Tax is £3500 a year and petrol is £4 a litre? I dont think these estimates are an exaggeration. Also, we'll have to drive with ECUs controlling our speed and accelaration from roadside transponders of our so-called Smart Motorways. The future will be no fun at all. I hope I am wrong :-)

I agree that the very rich will afford it and the McLaren F1s, Carrera GTs, Muiras etc will survive, but the low to mid-level supercars will not.

In addition, people's attitude will change and driving the "polluting" internal combustion engine will become socially unacceptable. I know for a fact that right now kids in school and university are being bombarded with ideas about clean and renewable energy, so that they will grow up with mindsets against the car as we know it today.
I think you're spot-on, although as petrol heads it's a hard one to stomach. I guess this could mean a lot of road trips in the next few years to me, to hell with the mileage.

Enjoy now, there really is no denying that our days are numbered. It's just a case of when.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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dang2407 said:
Even if Road Tax is £3500 a year and petrol is £4 a litre? I dont think these estimates are an exaggeration. Also, we'll have to drive with ECUs controlling our speed and accelaration from roadside transponders of our so-called Smart Motorways. The future will be no fun at all. I hope I am wrong :-)

I agree that the very rich will afford it and the McLaren F1s, Carrera GTs, Muiras etc will survive, but the low to mid-level supercars will not.

In addition, people's attitude will change and driving the "polluting" internal combustion engine will become socially unacceptable. I know for a fact that right now kids in school and university are being bombarded with ideas about clean and renewable energy, so that they will grow up with mindsets against the car as we know it today.
Nonsense. Given how few miles these cars cover each year (see 2007 car above with only 15k miles) the cost of fuel is not a factor. Any restriction on speed etc, will equally apply to electric cars so why are Tesla (and others) championing their speed rather than battery life, because motoring will always have a degree of fun...

On the 'socially unacceptable' angle, there is just as much chance of a nostalgic back-lash as there is for future generations to hate old cars. Think how much love there is for traction engines these day (which are worth a fortune), that vinyl records are out-selling CD's, that classic pre-cat Ferrari models are still allowed on the road and universally loved.

I think you're very much over-playing just how dull the future will be.

hunter 66

3,905 posts

220 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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Sadly this will be the case , maybe there will be a big increase in track days for proper old style driving ... the analogy of Horses which were used for transport until cars arrived , they are still used recreationally and in racing possibly the same for ICE cars in the future .
Have recently got an X and can see this will be the future , but still like the occasional run in the V12 although a lot less than I thought .