What to do 360 or California
Discussion
davek_964 said:
Well, I guess even the youngest are about 14 years old now so low mileage ones are always going to get harder to find.
Even so, I wouldn't have one for £100k+.
Nor me but at £50k its worth a punt. Bound to be a few issues with this age of car but as long as it doesn't blow up its still a Ferrari to tell your mates you ownEven so, I wouldn't have one for £100k+.
So, I have looked at a Cali T Rosso, cream , I know it’s difficult to guess but what does anyone reckon it’s value might be four years from now, it’s at Lancaster Colchester for 136 and is just two years old, I really am struggling with what to do.
It’s a smashing car, anyone’s thoughts advice would be appreciated, Mike
It’s a smashing car, anyone’s thoughts advice would be appreciated, Mike
Thankyou, my predictions also, I think for the foreseeable future I will keep the 360 and maybe change in a year or two.
The 360 will always be worth what I paid for it at the very least.
I did notice a Cali T privately for sale for just 118k with slightly lower miles, so yes they will fall
The 360 will always be worth what I paid for it at the very least.
I did notice a Cali T privately for sale for just 118k with slightly lower miles, so yes they will fall
I'm another to have had the same thought.... chop the 360 spider in and get myself a California...
I love the shape of the Cali, it's more modern etc etc etc.... then I drove one and that was that.
Awful F1 gearbox ends the conversation for me, it's not particularly good in the newer stuff (F12 being the most recent I've driven) but in the Cali the box is beyond awful and ruins what is otherwise a very desirable car.
If I could find a manual Cali at sensible money then I'd already have done the exchange but sadly with so few of them being made I rather doubt that'll ever happen.
I love the shape of the Cali, it's more modern etc etc etc.... then I drove one and that was that.
Awful F1 gearbox ends the conversation for me, it's not particularly good in the newer stuff (F12 being the most recent I've driven) but in the Cali the box is beyond awful and ruins what is otherwise a very desirable car.
If I could find a manual Cali at sensible money then I'd already have done the exchange but sadly with so few of them being made I rather doubt that'll ever happen.
K50 DEL said:
I'm another to have had the same thought.... chop the 360 spider in and get myself a California...
I love the shape of the Cali, it's more modern etc etc etc.... then I drove one and that was that.
Awful F1 gearbox ends the conversation for me, it's not particularly good in the newer stuff (F12 being the most recent I've driven) but in the Cali the box is beyond awful and ruins what is otherwise a very desirable car.
If I could find a manual Cali at sensible money then I'd already have done the exchange but sadly with so few of them being made I rather doubt that'll ever happen.
I couldn't imagine a worse car than a manual Cali TBH (or just about any Ferrari since the 355).I love the shape of the Cali, it's more modern etc etc etc.... then I drove one and that was that.
Awful F1 gearbox ends the conversation for me, it's not particularly good in the newer stuff (F12 being the most recent I've driven) but in the Cali the box is beyond awful and ruins what is otherwise a very desirable car.
If I could find a manual Cali at sensible money then I'd already have done the exchange but sadly with so few of them being made I rather doubt that'll ever happen.
I'm guessing you are a die-hard 'stick shifter' to not like a DCT? What's "beyond awful" about the Cali box?
You need to recognise that the Cali isnt universally loved and Ferraris that arent loved do depreciate. Like the 348 for example - compare 348 prices with 328 and 355. Not in the middle of the car that went first and the car that came later, are they.
In addition, Ferrari prices are in a bubble. It may well last a long time but we have previously seen prices drop as the classic car bubble bursts. In that scenarion, 360 prices might well fall to the 20 /30 k level that we once saw for 328s.
The Cali is a much more complex car than nthe 360 and as time moves on that has to make for more problems that can only be solved by a Ferrari dealer. It also makes for more expensive bits..
The rear seats in the Cali are a joke, if anything less useful even than the ones in an Evora and certainly less so than the 911. The boot is poor by comparison with the mide engined cars.
The feel of the Cali is very different to that of the mid engined sports cars. Might be as fast in a straight line or at least so much faster than is useable as to make no difference. But it isnt a car for bendswinging.
Sure when I go back into the market I will be considering a Cali or a 360 manual but thats only because I cant afford the Cali's mid engined brother, the 458 Spider. Same engine, much better sports car
In addition, Ferrari prices are in a bubble. It may well last a long time but we have previously seen prices drop as the classic car bubble bursts. In that scenarion, 360 prices might well fall to the 20 /30 k level that we once saw for 328s.
The Cali is a much more complex car than nthe 360 and as time moves on that has to make for more problems that can only be solved by a Ferrari dealer. It also makes for more expensive bits..
The rear seats in the Cali are a joke, if anything less useful even than the ones in an Evora and certainly less so than the 911. The boot is poor by comparison with the mide engined cars.
The feel of the Cali is very different to that of the mid engined sports cars. Might be as fast in a straight line or at least so much faster than is useable as to make no difference. But it isnt a car for bendswinging.
Sure when I go back into the market I will be considering a Cali or a 360 manual but thats only because I cant afford the Cali's mid engined brother, the 458 Spider. Same engine, much better sports car
bordseye said:
You need to recognise that the Cali isnt universally loved and Ferraris that arent loved do depreciate. Like the 348 for example - compare 348 prices with 328 and 355. Not in the middle of the car that went first and the car that came later, are they.
In addition, Ferrari prices are in a bubble. It may well last a long time but we have previously seen prices drop as the classic car bubble bursts. In that scenarion, 360 prices might well fall to the 20 /30 k level that we once saw for 328s.
The Cali is a much more complex car than nthe 360 and as time moves on that has to make for more problems that can only be solved by a Ferrari dealer. It also makes for more expensive bits..
The rear seats in the Cali are a joke, if anything less useful even than the ones in an Evora and certainly less so than the 911. The boot is poor by comparison with the mide engined cars.
The feel of the Cali is very different to that of the mid engined sports cars. Might be as fast in a straight line or at least so much faster than is useable as to make no difference. But it isnt a car for bendswinging.
Sure when I go back into the market I will be considering a Cali or a 360 manual but thats only because I cant afford the Cali's mid engined brother, the 458 Spider. Same engine, much better sports car
I am too of the opinion that we are in a bubble and perhaps stupidly am considering purchasing a Ferrari/Lambo but its a purchase driven by emotion and a life long dream rather than a scientific calculation of market trends. I do expect it will be a painful time coming, but honestly still find it hard to believe a Ferrari 360 would return to £20/30k as you suggest?In addition, Ferrari prices are in a bubble. It may well last a long time but we have previously seen prices drop as the classic car bubble bursts. In that scenarion, 360 prices might well fall to the 20 /30 k level that we once saw for 328s.
The Cali is a much more complex car than nthe 360 and as time moves on that has to make for more problems that can only be solved by a Ferrari dealer. It also makes for more expensive bits..
The rear seats in the Cali are a joke, if anything less useful even than the ones in an Evora and certainly less so than the 911. The boot is poor by comparison with the mide engined cars.
The feel of the Cali is very different to that of the mid engined sports cars. Might be as fast in a straight line or at least so much faster than is useable as to make no difference. But it isnt a car for bendswinging.
Sure when I go back into the market I will be considering a Cali or a 360 manual but thats only because I cant afford the Cali's mid engined brother, the 458 Spider. Same engine, much better sports car
BlackR8 said:
bordseye said:
You need to recognise that the Cali isnt universally loved and Ferraris that arent loved do depreciate. Like the 348 for example - compare 348 prices with 328 and 355. Not in the middle of the car that went first and the car that came later, are they.
In addition, Ferrari prices are in a bubble. It may well last a long time but we have previously seen prices drop as the classic car bubble bursts. In that scenarion, 360 prices might well fall to the 20 /30 k level that we once saw for 328s.
The Cali is a much more complex car than nthe 360 and as time moves on that has to make for more problems that can only be solved by a Ferrari dealer. It also makes for more expensive bits..
The rear seats in the Cali are a joke, if anything less useful even than the ones in an Evora and certainly less so than the 911. The boot is poor by comparison with the mide engined cars.
The feel of the Cali is very different to that of the mid engined sports cars. Might be as fast in a straight line or at least so much faster than is useable as to make no difference. But it isnt a car for bendswinging.
Sure when I go back into the market I will be considering a Cali or a 360 manual but thats only because I cant afford the Cali's mid engined brother, the 458 Spider. Same engine, much better sports car
I am too of the opinion that we are in a bubble and perhaps stupidly am considering purchasing a Ferrari/Lambo but its a purchase driven by emotion and a life long dream rather than a scientific calculation of market trends. I do expect it will be a painful time coming, but honestly still find it hard to believe a Ferrari 360 would return to £20/30k as you suggest?In addition, Ferrari prices are in a bubble. It may well last a long time but we have previously seen prices drop as the classic car bubble bursts. In that scenarion, 360 prices might well fall to the 20 /30 k level that we once saw for 328s.
The Cali is a much more complex car than nthe 360 and as time moves on that has to make for more problems that can only be solved by a Ferrari dealer. It also makes for more expensive bits..
The rear seats in the Cali are a joke, if anything less useful even than the ones in an Evora and certainly less so than the 911. The boot is poor by comparison with the mide engined cars.
The feel of the Cali is very different to that of the mid engined sports cars. Might be as fast in a straight line or at least so much faster than is useable as to make no difference. But it isnt a car for bendswinging.
Sure when I go back into the market I will be considering a Cali or a 360 manual but thats only because I cant afford the Cali's mid engined brother, the 458 Spider. Same engine, much better sports car
If anyone is still after a California these two have just been reduced by £10000, were £99000 now £89000, look value, both same Ferrari main dealer
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Edited by j3gme on Saturday 15th September 10:17
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