Pista's selling over list

[WonkeyDonkey]

PrancingHorses said:

Insecure

Some call it a passion for cars...but some people on here really make me laugh! Each to their own

Do whatever floats your boat and what the pocket allows

Edited by PrancingHorses on Thursday 25th July 20:59

It's hardly a passion for cars if you're buying them just to flip/be allowed to buy more.

Fair play to the guy if hes making a profit but I'd rather enjoy driving them properly than worry about being first in line for the next.

[PrancingHorses]

WonkeyDonkey said:

PrancingHorses said:

Insecure

Some call it a passion for cars...but some people on here really make me laugh! Each to their own

Do whatever floats your boat and what the pocket allows

Edited by PrancingHorses on Thursday 25th July 20:59

It's hardly a passion for cars if you're buying them just to flip/be allowed to buy more.

Fair play to the guy if hes making a profit but I'd rather enjoy driving them properly than worry about being first in line for the next.

I don’t find anything wrong with what he is doing. He enjoys the cars, sometimes even taking them on track (GT2rs I was with him!), drives across Europe (was on the recent Yianny tour) gives them back and gets another just before they start dropping in value. It’s a game of timing it right and playing the dealers. A lot of the youtubers do it too hence why always in the latest cars.

Im not sure I would have the patience to do it myself as I find the car swapping process very stressful!

[LordOfTheManor]

I get it now he's your mate - that makes you a hanger-oner

(i know there's no such word, but sometimes in life you just have to make them up!)

[W4NTED]

OP - You seem to be having a right strop as don't qualify in being a Pista Customer - you could always buy one above list

Edited by W4NTED on Friday 26th July 08:56

[PrancingHorses]

LordOfTheManor said:

I get it now he's your mate - that makes you a hanger-oner

(i know there's no such word, but sometimes in life you just have to make them up!)

Yes I live up his arse as he has so much money and funds my lifestyle - my fault for being his mate I guess?

[MDL111]

It is just the way the world works, there sure are some limited cars I would like to buy and can't as I am not a good enough customer, but that's life. I would like to own an apartment overlooking Regents Park, but can't as there are too many people with more money than me and therefore prices are out of reach, so be it - not everybody can have everything ...

I would have a hard time flipping cars on short timelines though as I think you need quite a while to really bond with a car - can hardly do that in a few k miles imo

[Buster73]

W4NTED said:

OP - You seem to be having a right strop as don't qualify in being a Pista Customer - you could always buy one above list

Of course he can , but that stops him making a few bob when buying it at list and flipping it.

Think you’re missing the point....

Edited by W4NTED on Friday 26th July 08:56

[LordOfTheManor]

yep!

[430scuderia1]

LordOfTheManor said:

Seen as my deposit was returned as I wasn't a favored Ferrari customer, their favored customers are now selling their cars just for the cash

there's no loyalty today!

the whole experience made me feel like a third class passenger on the Titanic

These aren't selling though... Same cars around since the first one advertised.

I was offered one and told them I didn't want it... The dealer thought I was mad.. I simply don't like the shape (behind the doors looks awkward).

There are loads in the UK so no loss. You will be able to get one soon.

[LordOfTheManor]

You're right, I'm hoping a white one at list will pop up once the new model shows its face

[Helicopter123]

PrancingHorses said:

TonyF said:

Had this with my dealer, went up to place a deposit on a pista and was told that my 2 previous purchases of the Ferrari brand didn’t qualify me for a pista to which I replied “ Is my money different to someone else’s then” to which they replied, sorry. So I told them to shove it and bought into the Lamborghini brand again instead, no such problems there I’ll add.

The issue with that is that Ferrari give a flying fk lol

Too many people with too much money buying in to V8s and V12s to get in to their Halo Cars. If you go elsewhere they don't really care.

I have a friend who has to buy every single model released - in the last 24 months he had a Portofino, 488, 488 spider x2 (sold at a premium via the same dealer), 812 Superfast (sold at a dealer with premium), and GT Lusso which he took a bath of £35k on. So it's a juggling game - win some lose some but in the end he got a Pista - again now sold via the dealer at a premium and is about to take delivery of a Pista Spider.

It's a fking dirty game!

He does the same with Porsche too and it's now come to a stage with them where if they have a car they can't shift (recently bought a £100k Cayenne Turbo from them) he buys it off them and sells it back to them - what does he get - a 911 GT2 rs, GT3 rs, Xclusive Edition Turbo and also the new speedster - all cars that he will drive for a bit and sell on for a huge profit via the dealer.

It's a win win for everyone. As I said - a dirty game but one that is very rife within industry.

The only brands he does not buy in to is Lamborghini and Mclaren as he says he always "takes a bath" come resale time on those. The good thing though is that he is always in the most desirable car and makes money at the same time but his capital outlay is huge. OK if you have the cash or can afford multiple monthly PCP payments I guess.

Edited by PrancingHorses on Thursday 25th July 09:40

To be fair, if you are prepared to support your local dealer in that way, you should be allowed your pick of more limited edition models. Where demand exceeds supply, how else are dealers supposed to allocate cars? Surely they just go down the list to see who has bought the most cars in the past however many months?

[Durzel]

PrancingHorses said:

Yes I live up his arse as he has so much money and funds my lifestyle - my fault for being his mate I guess?

Your mate buys your cars?

OP: Ferrari's attitude to special editions is that they are offered to people who have a long standing relationship with the company, basically dyed-in-the-wool Ferrari cap wearing customers. It is in many ways a means for Ferrari to reward those people for their loyalty through thick and thin. Sure, some people game their system and Ferrari no doubt dish out invites to select celebs and influencers, but thems the breaks.

I get that it sucks that there is a pecking order even after you've already shelled out hundreds of thousands, no one wants to be reminded of that, but there is a finite number of cars and a customer base that exceeds the allocation by some margin. Logic would dictate that someone who is a fairweather or first time customer wouldn't get a look in.

Also why do you need a Pista if you have a 458 Speciale?

[PrancingHorses]

Durzel said:

Your mate buys your cars?

OPs comment above seems to think so

[LordOfTheManor]

i didn't say that - but there's no smoke without fire I guess

ps ask him to buy me one - all that money he's making..

[PrancingHorses]

LordOfTheManor said:

i didn't say that - but there's no smoke without fire I guess

ps ask him to buy me one - all that money he's making..

I showed him this thread and he is going to try to get you a Pista allocation! Be nice to me from now on

[LordOfTheManor]

Thanks

[Durzel]

Everyone's a winner If only all of societies ills could be cured this way.

(yes, society not having Pistas is a problem)

[PrancingHorses]

Durzel said:

Everyone's a winner If only all of societies ills could be cured this way.

(yes, society not having Pistas is a problem)

Word from his dealer is that a few people have dropped their Pista allocation since the announcement of the F8 Tributo....I am not sure why as the Pista will always be a ltd edition run car compared to the F8 that has similar power but is a 2 year production run...strange....

[Durzel]

Well, the F8 is a Pista on steroids really.. Ultimately it's the same tech (turbocharged), but newer.

The Speciale on the other hand is the best version of the N/A V8 that Ferrari made.

In that respect if you aren't particularly fussed about having a special edition then getting a F8 instead of a Pista would make sense. Then there's the inevitable special edition F8 too...

[WCZ]

i'd rather have a f8 than a pista (which imo won't be remembered as a particular special car)