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Suspect manifolds have been mentioned but they’re really more than suspect - they’re guilty as charged.
There is a fundamental design flaw in them which means that you need to install non-Ferrari manifolds or else you risk destroying your engine. So make sure that any F430 you buy has aftermarket manifolds without the pre-cat or budget 5k to make the change yourself.
There is a fundamental design flaw in them which means that you need to install non-Ferrari manifolds or else you risk destroying your engine. So make sure that any F430 you buy has aftermarket manifolds without the pre-cat or budget 5k to make the change yourself.
Kettmark said:
Hi. Viewed my first car today. They are epic. Going to arrange to look at a couple of others for comparison as always told not to buy the first one you see.
A lot of dosh but heck, life's short.
It is not always the case. I bought my F430 that was the first one I looked at (mind you I did have "not buying the first one in mind"). If it is the right one, you just know it feels right. It has all the right history, all the spec that I wanted except just one item the badge plaque showing all the Schumacher's F1 Championships years. Registered in Jan 2008 but it was manufactured in 2007 car, so it is an anniversary car. Ironically it was a low mileage car (sub 10k), when I was prepared to buy anything over 20k. The Vendor also agreed throwing in a one year Ferrari Power warranty as part of the deal. So there you go.A lot of dosh but heck, life's short.
I also bought the first and the only house I saw and we have been living here for the past decade. The point I am making is, if it is right, you know it is right if you have done enough research before hand.
5LDC said:
Have it properly inspected. I landed an 8k bill for repairs on a main dealer purchased car after 6 months. None of which were covered by the Power Warranty.
Now that’s not something a prospective owner wants to see/ hear! Anything specific that’s wasn’t covered by warranty? ANOpax said:
Suspect manifolds have been mentioned but they’re really more than suspect - they’re guilty as charged.
There is a fundamental design flaw in them which means that you need to install non-Ferrari manifolds or else you risk destroying your engine. So make sure that any F430 you buy has aftermarket manifolds without the pre-cat or budget 5k to make the change yourself.
Manifolds can be problematic - see my story here - https://m18eut.wordpress.com/f430-engine-rebuild/ Came to £17k after other things went wrong like the F1 pump lines burst but of course the warranty didn't want to know or Ferrari either (its a warranty job in the USA of course).There is a fundamental design flaw in them which means that you need to install non-Ferrari manifolds or else you risk destroying your engine. So make sure that any F430 you buy has aftermarket manifolds without the pre-cat or budget 5k to make the change yourself.
Edited by ewolg on Monday 7th September 23:10
Edited by ewolg on Monday 7th September 23:11
If you can stretch to the extra expense it’s worth tracking down an ‘08 car as there were lots of revisions to the external gearbox components. The change is much, much faster and the clutch wear far lighter, as well as changes to the ignition system they also come with the later exhaust manifolds. The later manifolds do still crack but they have a metal-based substrate in the pre cat, the early type are ceramic and failure can cause chunks to get hoovered back into the engine causing lots of broken expensive bits. Get an inspection, all the later cars had the ceramic brakes and unless the callipers have been rebuilt with the hill engineering parts budget £1500 to have them rebuilt at some point. Check for a rattle on cold start which could be timing variators or cracked exhaust. Don’t get hung up on a dealer history, it means nothing, as long as it has stamps from a respected indie and an accompanying pile of invoices to prove you aren’t going to buy into a load of deferred maintenance work from the previous owner it’s indicative of a cared for car.
Edited by Cerberaherts on Monday 21st September 18:30
Cerberaherts said:
If you can stretch to the extra expense it’s worth tracking down an ‘08 car as there were lots of revisions to the external gearbox components. The change is much, much faster and the clutch wear far lighter, as well as changes to the ignition system they also come with the later exhaust manifolds. The later manifolds do still crack but they have a metal-based substrate in the pre cat, the early type are ceramic and failure can cause chunks to get hoovered back into the engine causing lots of broken expensive bits. Get an inspection, all the later cars had the ceramic brakes and unless the callipers have been rebuilt with the hill engineering parts budget £1500 to have them rebuilt at some point. Check for a rattle on cold start which could be timing variators or cracked exhaust. Don’t get hung up on a dealer history, it means nothing, as long as it has stamps from a respected indie and an accompanying pile of invoices to prove you aren’t going to buy into a load of deferred maintenance work from the previous owner it’s indicative of a cared for car.
Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.Edited by Cerberaherts on Monday 21st September 18:30
Kettmark said:
Cerberaherts said:
If you can stretch to the extra expense it’s worth tracking down an ‘08 car as there were lots of revisions to the external gearbox components. The change is much, much faster and the clutch wear far lighter, as well as changes to the ignition system they also come with the later exhaust manifolds. The later manifolds do still crack but they have a metal-based substrate in the pre cat, the early type are ceramic and failure can cause chunks to get hoovered back into the engine causing lots of broken expensive bits. Get an inspection, all the later cars had the ceramic brakes and unless the callipers have been rebuilt with the hill engineering parts budget £1500 to have them rebuilt at some point. Check for a rattle on cold start which could be timing variators or cracked exhaust. Don’t get hung up on a dealer history, it means nothing, as long as it has stamps from a respected indie and an accompanying pile of invoices to prove you aren’t going to buy into a load of deferred maintenance work from the previous owner it’s indicative of a cared for car.
Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.Edited by Cerberaherts on Monday 21st September 18:30
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