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SL550M said:
That's pretty strong, blueSL. A hateful experience...really? Genuinely interested. I've had a couple of V12 Ferraris (both bought around five years old) and have always kind of fantasized about being able to order a new Ferrari, do a factory visit, all that jazz.
It started off well enough with a visit to the Atelier and a personal factory tour. That was a year ago. Since then, the sales manager has left, the sales person has left and it’s been one error after another, Ferrari’s, the Atelier’s, the dealer’s. It took 8 months for someone to get in touch after the Atelier visit and the new salesperson is full of glib expressions like “no worries”, “kindest regards”, “it was good to catch up”. I’ve never met him.
It’s now nearly three months since he promised to resolve the outstanding queries including configuring the wrong interior colour and trouble configuring the stitching, the seat design and the door panels. There’s also been some option price rises before the car has even entered production, more likely an error in the original price list.
I could have rattled his cage but I don’t expect to have to.
As of now, I don’t have a finalised spec, a price or a production slot. I should have learned my lesson with my 488 which had a number of build quality issues. So yes, a hateful experience.
blueSL said:
SL550M said:
That's pretty strong, blueSL. A hateful experience...really? Genuinely interested. I've had a couple of V12 Ferraris (both bought around five years old) and have always kind of fantasized about being able to order a new Ferrari, do a factory visit, all that jazz.
It started off well enough with a visit to the Atelier and a personal factory tour. That was a year ago. Since then, the sales manager has left, the sales person has left and it’s been one error after another, Ferrari’s, the Atelier’s, the dealer’s. It took 8 months for someone to get in touch after the Atelier visit and the new salesperson is full of glib expressions like “no worries”, “kindest regards”, “it was good to catch up”. I’ve never met him.
It’s now nearly three months since he promised to resolve the outstanding queries including configuring the wrong interior colour and trouble configuring the stitching, the seat design and the door panels. There’s also been some option price rises before the car has even entered production, more likely an error in the original price list.
I could have rattled his cage but I don’t expect to have to.
As of now, I don’t have a finalised spec, a price or a production slot. I should have learned my lesson with my 488 which had a number of build quality issues. So yes, a hateful experience.
blueSL said:
SL550M said:
That's pretty strong, blueSL. A hateful experience...really? Genuinely interested. I've had a couple of V12 Ferraris (both bought around five years old) and have always kind of fantasized about being able to order a new Ferrari, do a factory visit, all that jazz.
It started off well enough with a visit to the Atelier and a personal factory tour. That was a year ago. Since then, the sales manager has left, the sales person has left and it’s been one error after another, Ferrari’s, the Atelier’s, the dealer’s. It took 8 months for someone to get in touch after the Atelier visit and the new salesperson is full of glib expressions like “no worries”, “kindest regards”, “it was good to catch up”. I’ve never met him.
It’s now nearly three months since he promised to resolve the outstanding queries including configuring the wrong interior colour and trouble configuring the stitching, the seat design and the door panels. There’s also been some option price rises before the car has even entered production, more likely an error in the original price list.
I could have rattled his cage but I don’t expect to have to.
As of now, I don’t have a finalised spec, a price or a production slot. I should have learned my lesson with my 488 which had a number of build quality issues. So yes, a hateful experience.
Back to the original question though reagrding F8 discounts. I know of at least two people that have walked away from 30k deposits at main dealers upon cars arrival as taking the car would have lead to further losses, so your going to get this off at least if anyone tries hard enough.
Turbo cab said:
I would cancel it end of, why would you even want to get into your new shiny car with that much of a sour taste in your mouth, plus further delay and price increases due to dealer incompetence.
Back to the original question though reagrding F8 discounts. I know of at least two people that have walked away from 30k deposits at main dealers upon cars arrival as taking the car would have lead to further losses, so your going to get this off at least if anyone tries hard enough.
This is the problem, walking away from £30k to “save” money. Buying an F8 is going to lead to enormous losses. I cannot understand who in their right mind is buying these cars. Clearly people with more money than me and perhaps don’t care but I’d question the common sense element with the situation as it is. Back to the original question though reagrding F8 discounts. I know of at least two people that have walked away from 30k deposits at main dealers upon cars arrival as taking the car would have lead to further losses, so your going to get this off at least if anyone tries hard enough.
Drl22 said:
Turbo cab said:
I would cancel it end of, why would you even want to get into your new shiny car with that much of a sour taste in your mouth, plus further delay and price increases due to dealer incompetence.
Back to the original question though reagrding F8 discounts. I know of at least two people that have walked away from 30k deposits at main dealers upon cars arrival as taking the car would have lead to further losses, so your going to get this off at least if anyone tries hard enough.
This is the problem, walking away from £30k to “save” money. Buying an F8 is going to lead to enormous losses. I cannot understand who in their right mind is buying these cars. Clearly people with more money than me and perhaps don’t care but I’d question the common sense element with the situation as it is. Back to the original question though reagrding F8 discounts. I know of at least two people that have walked away from 30k deposits at main dealers upon cars arrival as taking the car would have lead to further losses, so your going to get this off at least if anyone tries hard enough.
and you don't need to buy your dream cars at the inflated prices used cars JayP1 said:
Does anyone else feel like the newest generation of Ferraris don’t look as pretty as the previous generations? I find the front of the F8, SF90 and Roma more like something you’d expect from one of the Japanese brands.
To be honest I feel the opposite. I.e. the front ends look fantastic (Roma grill colour dependent) but it’s the rear ends which look very fussy, with too much going on (F8 and SF90)... the Roma in the flesh looked magnificent to my eyes from all angles.LordOfTheManor said:
I prefer the rear of the 488 and the front of F8 perhaps I need a cut and shut !
Then you have the same taste as me. I much prefer the rear of the 488 over the F8 and 458. OTOH i really like the F8's front which is more aggressive than the 488. The Pista is the best design by far of all of them IMO.Just had a look at these on autotrader, they seem good value at low £200k for the newest mid engined Ferrari. Or is it because all this EV nonsense is making the normal combustion cars seem like old news now? I really do feel we are heading in the wrong direction and I have no desire to join the EV bandwagon.
But the problem with residuals is that all the 20-30 year olds lust after a Tesla..we are doomed ..
But the problem with residuals is that all the 20-30 year olds lust after a Tesla..we are doomed ..
TP321 said:
Just had a look at these on autotrader, they seem good value at low £200k for the newest mid engined Ferrari. Or is it because all this EV nonsense is making the normal combustion cars seem like old news now? I really do feel we are heading in the wrong direction and I have no desire to join the EV bandwagon.
But the problem with residuals is that all the 20-30 year olds lust after a Tesla..we are doomed ..
ICE supercars will become weekend toys, which they already are and have been for a long time already, for a lot of people. ICE cars aren’t being banned from the road.But the problem with residuals is that all the 20-30 year olds lust after a Tesla..we are doomed ..
I’m puzzled as to how you feel that we/the world is “heading in the wrong direction” with EV technology and cars. If they are quieter, don’t pollute as much (even in practical street level terms, if you want to debate the lifetime CO2 production - which I understand is still less over a practical lifetime), leading to cleaner environments, I’m all for it.
In much the same way that not every car is suitable for every occasion, I can definitely see a world where EVs are the commuting cars and ICE cars become more special, weekend toys. You might find over time that residuals actually improve, on special cars at least. Your average ICE car won’t be so lucky.
As time goes on Ferrari and co will have to get more serious about EV, at least hybrid, if they want their cars to be daily drivers. That seems inevitable.
Also, personal opinion, I think Ferraris will always be special and a sight to behold for people generally.
Ferruccio said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that EV will turn out to be like Betamax videos or Friends Reunited and that, in the end, we’ll all be driving hydrogen powered vehicles.......
I have a sneaking suspicion that in the end we will be all dead. If you wait too long to see what technology will eventually power our cars you'll never buy anything. Right now EVs rule and i have a Taycan and in about 10 years or so it might be Hydrogen or something else but i'll think about that nearer the time.Gassing Station | Ferrari V8 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff