458 thoughts....

[anonymous-user]

Spleen said:

Yeah but it's old and slow therefore not worth having.

Apparently.

No one said that and each to their own.
Different people want different things and there is no one size fits all.

As someone not invested in the game I fully expect owners to support their own choice but that doesn't necessarily make it the best thing since sliced bread.
458 is certainly a standout car for Ferrari but personally I prefer a F355 and thats even older and slower

[Singh911]

Only just taken delivery of the 458 recently but there are elements of the 430 I miss for sure.
The manual nature of the F1 gearbox. The deep throaty exhaust note.
I hope pulling the wires for the valves will solve this but I find that when you take your foot off the throttle, the 458 is silent - even in race mode. There is no exhaust note on decelerating. Unlike the 430. I guess this is the valves closing?
The 430 felt like an unhinged untamed beast. The 458 has moved the game on in droves - I love the quick steering, the high pitched noise, the looks - but that's not to detract from the great car the 430 is.

[Gibbo205]

Singh911 said:

Only just taken delivery of the 458 recently but there are elements of the 430 I miss for sure.
The manual nature of the F1 gearbox. The deep throaty exhaust note.
I hope pulling the wires for the valves will solve this but I find that when you take your foot off the throttle, the 458 is silent - even in race mode. There is no exhaust note on decelerating. Unlike the 430. I guess this is the valves closing?
The 430 felt like an unhinged untamed beast. The 458 has moved the game on in droves - I love the quick steering, the high pitched noise, the looks - but that's not to detract from the great car the 430 is.

Unplugging the valves on a 458 completely changes the game, a 458 is a pretty silent car even in race mode until you surpass 3000rpm or go full throttle, which means when your just driving around slowly it tends to be silent.

Unplugging the valves means a 458 is always on song and barking, it will also pop and gurgle a lot more too, get those valves unplugged it is really easy to do, just remove the rear diffuser and look up and you will see the vacuum lines, pull them off and put something in the hoses ideally to prevent water ingress. You won't regret it and if the noise ever becomes too much, get a Forza valve controller or similar.

[Singh911]

Brilliant thanks. Will get that done asap.

[WCZ]

Curledge said:

Is that your garage ? Do people have these cars without multiple garages ? I'm not sure I would be comfortable with my daily in a blow up bag, let alone an expensive supercar.
TBH I wouldnt want a supercar until its value was less than 10% max of my net worth

This coupled with your comments about ‘behind a Tesla’ makes you come across as a troll tbh

[supersport]

WCZ said:

Curledge said:

Is that your garage ? Do people have these cars without multiple garages ? I'm not sure I would be comfortable with my daily in a blow up bag, let alone an expensive supercar.
TBH I wouldnt want a supercar until its value was less than 10% max of my net worth

This coupled with your comments about ‘behind a Tesla’ makes you come across as a troll tbh

Been thinking that since he appeared a few weeks back, apparently owners views are invalid

[garystoybox]

WCZ said:

Curledge said:

TBH I wouldnt want a supercar until its value was less than 10% max of my net worth

This coupled with your comments about ‘behind a Tesla’ makes you come across as a troll tbh

This was the classic Rambo Lambo quote from back in the day. Just saying………..

[sone]

garystoybox said:

WCZ said:

Curledge said:

TBH I wouldnt want a supercar until its value was less than 10% max of my net worth

This coupled with your comments about ‘behind a Tesla’ makes you come across as a troll tbh

This was the classic Rambo Lambo quote from back in the day. Just saying………..

Took the words out of my mouth, Old Rambo Lambo like quote. I referred to him in my earlier post (unnamed) Lol!

[Spleen]

Curledge said:

Spleen said:

Yeah but it's old and slow therefore not worth having.

Apparently.

No one said that and each to their own.
Different people want different things and there is no one size fits all.

As someone not invested in the game I fully expect owners to support their own choice but that doesn't necessarily make it the best thing since sliced bread.
458 is certainly a standout car for Ferrari but personally I prefer a F355 and thats even older and slower

Thanks for the egg-sucking lesson, been a while.

[NSC79]

Curledge said:

NSC79 said:

Mine has the sports/race seats. I sat in one with the standard seats and felt less supported than my 330d ones. Perhaps they perform better on a drive, but I’m not sure how because there’s not much in terms of bolster support.

Unwrapped it at the weekend to check it was ok:

Is that your garage ? Do people have these cars without multiple garages ? I'm not sure I would be comfortable with my daily in a blow up bag, let alone an expensive supercar.
TBH I wouldnt want a supercar until its value was less than 10% max of my net worth

Nice to see others also thought you were being the dangly thing generated when X and Y chromosomes meet.

The ‘garage’ is actually the listed dovecote at my parents house. The car (incidentally with no finance) lives tucked up there whilst I’m in London with the family.

Most of all, cheers for the contribution…

[fridaypassion]

a 355 is all good until you get the crippling bills for a car thats slower than a Renault Megane Sport

[7GJR]

fridaypassion said:

a 355 is all good until you get the crippling bills for a car thats slower than a Renault Megane Sport

Agreed. A lose pal had one for 15 months and it cost him £20k in 'routine' maintenance.

[Order66]

7GJR said:

Agreed. A lose pal had one for 15 months and it cost him £20k in 'routine' maintenance.

bks. There's nothing "routine" about a 20k bill on any ferrari.

I owned an old 12cyl 512TR and even the big "engine out" belts service cost me less than £2K at a main dealer. So tales of £20k are quite frankly bullst.

[fridaypassion]

Apart from they aren't

2k is barely more than a regular service on a modern Ferrari.....

[Spleen]

Not difficult to rack up big bills, I had a quote from DL for bushes all round on my F430- £7.7k. Chuck my major service as well as replacement headers on and you’re knocking on the door of £20k.

[anonymous-user]

Might be old and cheap now but the parts are still the same as a new supercar.
Shame the power warranty isn't worth the paper its written on

[Order66]

Spleen said:

Not difficult to rack up big bills, I had a quote from DL for bushes all round on my F430- £7.7k. Chuck my major service as well as replacement headers on and you’re knocking on the door of £20k.

"Routine"?

[NSC79]

Curledge said:

Might be old and cheap now but the parts are still the same as a new supercar.
Shame the power warranty isn't worth the paper its written on

Here you go again. You’re just a charmer aren’t you…

[Spleen]

Order66 said:

Spleen said:

Not difficult to rack up big bills, I had a quote from DL for bushes all round on my F430- £7.7k. Chuck my major service as well as replacement headers on and you’re knocking on the door of £20k.

"Routine"?

I didn't say it was routine, I said it wasn't difficult to rack up big bills. A routine £20k bill, the implication being on a regular basis, is bogus unless the car is the king of all sheds.

[fridaypassion]

They can be expensive. I think with the 458 as they get older it's electrical stuff that can be a killer. The chap with the glove box that wouldn't open and needed a new module at 7k? A guy had the phone module go that was 4k so 2k for a service is probably not realistic for annual costs.

Mine had very slight play in a bush on the rear susupenion they wanted £2500 to sort that. Would be a fith of that at an indie but it's fair to say the running costs are pretty fruity if you do get a problem.