Is a Portofino for under £100k the most sensible decision?

Is a Portofino for under £100k the most sensible decision?

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Honeywell

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1,381 posts

99 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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willy wombat said:
My Portofino is in Rosso Portofino and it is a beautiful colour. However my interest was piqued by the suggestion that it is a £22k option so I dug out my sales invoice as I was pretty sure I didn’t pay that, and I didn’t. £7,104 including VAT was what I paid for Rosso Portofino. My car is virtually identical vintage (delivered new to me 1/1/20 just in time for Covid). I have quite a few more options (carbon, wheels, car play etc). I also have passenger display which is the one option I regret paying for. Waste of money.
I think they are great value at the moment.
Thanks for that. Bit naughty to inflate an option by 300% in an advert.

Is yours in Birkenhead?

Pflanzgarten

3,982 posts

26 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Honeywell said:
Pflanzgarten said:
He’s had that for sale for months and was as low as £110k on his last advert.
Thank you.

I need to get a non-IOS device so I can have the Chrome Autotrader plugin recording pricing.
The extension is available for IOS now, although if the seller deletes the ad and writes a new one all history is lost regardless.

willy wombat

919 posts

149 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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No, I’m in sunny Sussex.

Y not

24 posts

106 months

Saturday 6th January
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Honeywell said:
Thanks for that. Bit naughty to inflate an option by 300% in an advert.

Is yours in Birkenhead?
Advert may be correct. Mine was a mid 2020 build. Anecdotal evidence from others was that the price for the colour went up from £7k to £21k late in 2020. Depends on when the car spec was locked in. Original invoice will show it correct.

Edit..mine is Azzuro California, but remember that Rosso Porto has a lot of issues originally so might be part of the reason the metallics went up.

Edited by Y not on Saturday 6th January 23:36

Honeywell

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1,381 posts

99 months

Saturday 6th January
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Thanks. Kind of hard to price these cars secondhand when options can vary so much in price.

ex-devonpaul

1,198 posts

138 months

Sunday 7th January
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Honeywell said:
Thanks. Kind of hard to price these cars secondhand when options can vary so much in price.
I agree for some of the stuff, but not colour. Unless i was really desperate for a partcular shade of red, then I wouldn't pay extra for one shade over another. Especially if it meant a huge bill if it ever got a stone chip.

Options like seat type, stereo upgrade, brakes, suspension, even neck warmers, then fine, but just because someone wanted to pay extra for patterned leather on the seat, a metal badge, a strip of chrome around the grill, or 2 grand for them to put different coloured reel of cotton in the sewing machine when they stitched it, adds no value IMO.

willy wombat

919 posts

149 months

Sunday 7th January
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You are certainly right that there were issues with Rosso Portofino. My car was spec’d in 2018 for a May 2019 delivery. It was then delayed for 6 months due to paint issues (I was offered the option to have the car on time but in a different colour but I decided to wait for Rosso P). The car was finally available about November 19 but I elected to register 1st January 20. I have no idea whether the price for Rosso P was subsequently massively increased. BTW the dealer PPF’d the car FOC as compensation for the delay. Only time I have ever got anything out of a Ferrari main dealer on a brand new car purchase.

blueg33

36,019 posts

225 months

Sunday 7th January
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Mark_Blanchard said:
I'd buy the Portofino. I've been a Lotus man all my life and moved to Ferrari's a few years ago and have never regretted it. Ferrari's are fantastic cars and a privilege to own. Good luck with your purchase.
Same

Y not

24 posts

106 months

Sunday 7th January
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Honeywell said:
Thanks. Kind of hard to price these cars secondhand when options can vary so much in price.
You can only look at the cars available with a view on the prices today. Options prices varied a bit (upwards over the production run). In truth, there isn’t really a huge variance in the specs of most.

If it’s red you will have plenty more choice (which weirdly makes it more difficult as then it leads to obsession about every option). If a specific option is not on any of the red ones. Just wait as a few more will be on the market as more red are produced (there certainly were a lot more red ones on the production line during my 3 visits to the factory).



willy wombat

919 posts

149 months

Tuesday 9th January
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If I was looking I’d certainly have a look at the Blu Corsa car at Meridien. It’s a bit light on spec (almost zero carbon but is that the end of the world?) but I love the colour outside and in.

Honeywell

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1,381 posts

99 months

Monday 15th January
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I think carbon fibre trim is pointless, tacky and undesirable.

Y not

24 posts

106 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Honeywell said:
I think carbon fibre trim is pointless, tacky and undesirable.
Didn’t spec it on mine as I’ve had other manufacturers with it in the past. Only item is the wheel as I didn’t ask if that could be without carbon and wanted the lights.

My other thought was that any back catalogue / second hand purchases I go for will most likely have plenty of cars available with carbon.

Couldn’t stop giggling at a 296 event when the Ferrari chap kept referencing carbon as a “performance upgrade. Admittedly as a shareholder I think everyone should get everything carbon and expensive paint.

jwdh1

263 posts

110 months

Wednesday 17th January
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swanseaboydan said:
I popped into Swindon Ferrari today and they had a few portofino m s in there. Personally I can’t see the point in the M versions as they are meant to be cruiser / tourer cars.
Also, why so many red Portofinos out there ? Is it just me? I don’t think they suit red that well. Don’t shoot me, there just seem to be a Lot of them .
I don’t know how representative our experience is but initial cars spec’d in Portofino Red (like ours) were delayed because of issues at the paint shop. We were offered a Rosso car that the dealer just happened to have as an alternative. Others may just have ordered Rosso instead when they heard about the problem?